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2005-09-08 by Ernst Dinkla
Not a DSLR, not a DRF, not a DCompact but probably usable for
most tasks and tastes the others where designed for. A real
hybrid with an APS 10.3 MP sensor !
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
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Ernst Dinkla
www.pigment-print.com
( unvollendet )2005-09-08 by Martin Wesley
Ernst, Please remember that this is NOT a digital camera group and do not post messages like this. Your posting will likely result in yet another off topic thread. Thank you, Martin Wesley
-----Original Message-----
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ernst
Dinkla
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:49 AM
To: EpsonWideFormat@yahoogroups.com;
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] New class of cameras ? Sony DSC-R1
Not a DSLR, not a DRF, not a DCompact but probably usable for
most tasks and tastes the others where designed for. A real
hybrid with an APS 10.3 MP sensor !
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/
--
Ernst Dinkla
www.pigment-print.com
( unvollendet )
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-09-08 by scott_now_coming
"A real hybrid with an APS 10.3 MP sensor !" And a Zeiss lens, to boot! --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla <E.Dinkla@c...> wrote:
> Not a DSLR, not a DRF, not a DCompact but probably usable for > most tasks and tastes the others where designed for. A real > hybrid with an APS 10.3 MP sensor ! > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/ > > > > -- > Ernst Dinkla > > > www.pigment-print.com > ( unvollendet )
2005-09-08 by Paul Roark
Do we need a new forum for discussions of digital capture as it relates to B&W? Perhaps all image capture issues -- scanning, film, etc. -- should be on a new forum? Is there a way to link thread to this one so that we don't all have to monitor another forum to be alerted to a thread of interest? As it relates to the new Sony, how does the use of the sensor for viewing affect image noise, if at all? Does the viewing system use more battery power? The viewing concept does make sense if there are no negative affects on the image quality and battery use is reasonable. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ernst > Dinkla > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:49 AM > To: EpsonWideFormat@yahoogroups.com; > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] New class of cameras ? Sony DSC-R1 > > Not a DSLR, not a DRF, not a DCompact but probably usable for > most tasks and tastes the others where designed for. A real > hybrid with an APS 10.3 MP sensor ! > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/ > > > > -- > Ernst Dinkla > > > www.pigment-print.com > ( unvollendet ) > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2005-09-08 by djon43
Digital Vs Film. I've just enjoyed David Sinai's Black Only print exchange...about half of the images originated in film. For various reasons, and but for one film image (mine..cropped from 800 color neg and desaturated) and one digital image (Steve K's), film seemed significantly sharper, having more tonal excitement, even in tiny 6X9 prints. PLEASE comment with different impressions! BO "grain", unlike film grain, remains fixed-size as the print size varies and in this case worked to the disadvantage of the exchange's little prints (8.5X11 paper, most prints under 6X9). The images would inescapably appear more "dotty" if they were smaller, and literally seem half as dotty at twice the size...unlike real grain on silver paper. I think this particular forum is already far too inkjet-technical to benefit by yet-further rambles into arcane and inevitably intensely consumerist digital camera discussions. So perhaps a parallel Yahoo forum would be good. The new Sony seems tempting...but will it tether to a laptop? John Kelly --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Do we need a new forum for discussions of digital capture as it relates to > B&W? Perhaps all image capture issues -- scanning, film, etc. -- should be > on a new forum? Is there a way to link thread to this one so that we don't > all have to monitor another forum to be alerted to a thread of interest?
2005-09-11 by Michael Vendrell
Paul, I too miss TechP an(and Agfapan 25) especially in the 120 size. I have quite a few old 8x10'' negs which so far i haven't found an economical and good way to scan and only recently got good scans (d-max issues) from my 35 and 120 negs using the new Nikon 9000, I would think that this forum would benefit from inclusion of all of the steps required to obtain GOOD B&W digital prints - as long as it doesn't degerate into a brand-name war such as others have decried. Thanks for your thoughtfulness. I'm also new to this forum and don'tknow whether i should be responding on the list site, altho' i'm having some technicalissues with using that site - please advise me as to how i should procede and/or forward this to the site,,,Thanks again...michael Michael J. Vendrell, MD 240 Amherst St. St. Paul, MN 55105 mobile: 651-245-3950 ----Original Message Follows----
From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] New class of cameras ? Sony DSC-R1 Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 07:38:40 -0700 Do we need a new forum for discussions of digital capture as it relates to B&W? Perhaps all image capture issues -- scanning, film, etc. -- should be on a new forum? Is there a way to link thread to this one so that we don't all have to monitor another forum to be alerted to a thread of interest? As it relates to the new Sony, how does the use of the sensor for viewing affect image noise, if at all? Does the viewing system use more battery power? The viewing concept does make sense if there are no negative affects on the image quality and battery use is reasonable. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ernst > Dinkla > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:49 AM > To: EpsonWideFormat@yahoogroups.com; > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] New class of cameras ? Sony DSC-R1 > > Not a DSLR, not a DRF, not a DCompact but probably usable for > most tasks and tastes the others where designed for. A real > hybrid with an APS 10.3 MP sensor ! > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/sonydscr1/ > > > > -- > Ernst Dinkla > > > www.pigment-print.com > ( unvollendet ) > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > P