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Mild warm inkset for 2200, with smooth print output

Mild warm inkset for 2200, with smooth print output

2005-11-03 by John Moody

Paul, others,
I agree that having more jets firing makes for smoother output.  What would
you think of the following inkset to exploit that characteristic?

All 7 slots of the 2200 are used.  Blend FS and FSN approximately 50% each
with some adjustment for tone based on paper white.
Eboni
UT-FS-C and UT-FSN-C
UT-FS-M and UT-FSN-M
UT-FS-Y and UT-FSN-Y

My recent work creating curves for UT-7 + UT-FS-Y on Kirkland, has resulted
in very smooth ramps and a very consistent dither pattern throughout the
range, similar to what you get with the EZ/Epson approach.  This only
happened after very critical evaluation (i1 and eye-ball) and fine
adjustment of the curves.  What I'm after is basically a monotone inkset
that is slightly warm, and has as many jets firing as possible for
smoothness.  I suppose I could try K7, but I would like the option to print
glossy as well.

Best regards,
John Moody

Re: [Digital BW] Mild warm inkset for 2200, with smooth print output

2005-11-03 by Howard Shaw

John
I'm unclear why you are dissatisfied with the UT7 combination you have 
now. I would think you would usually have six jets firing (all except 
LK) to obtain the slightly warm tone you like. Would adding one more be 
worth the effort and risk? Or are there other aspects of UT7 that you 
don't like?

Howard

John Moody wrote:
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> Paul, others,
> I agree that having more jets firing makes for smoother output.  What would
> you think of the following inkset to exploit that characteristic?
> 
> All 7 slots of the 2200 are used.  Blend FS and FSN approximately 50% each
> with some adjustment for tone based on paper white.
> Eboni
> UT-FS-C and UT-FSN-C
> UT-FS-M and UT-FSN-M
> UT-FS-Y and UT-FSN-Y
> 
> My recent work creating curves for UT-7 + UT-FS-Y on Kirkland, has resulted
> in very smooth ramps and a very consistent dither pattern throughout the
> range, similar to what you get with the EZ/Epson approach.  This only
> happened after very critical evaluation (i1 and eye-ball) and fine
> adjustment of the curves.  What I'm after is basically a monotone inkset
> that is slightly warm, and has as many jets firing as possible for
> smoothness.  I suppose I could try K7, but I would like the option to print
> glossy as well.
> 
> Best regards,
> John Moody
>

RE: [Digital BW] Mild warm inkset for 2200, with smooth print output

2005-11-03 by John Moody

Howard,
Although it is very good; amazing what Paul has done for inkjet owners; for
small or hand held prints, I do see the color, which Clayton has discussed
previously; not the dots, but the color.  I’m not knocking it, just looking
for something at a different level.  By comparison, for example, a Tyler
Boley print looks more beautiful to me.  It does not offer any hint of how
it was produced, leaving the viewer with just the art and not the craft.  I
also enjoy producing my own prints, so experimenting is part of the overall
process for me.

Best regards,
John Moody
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John
I'm unclear why you are dissatisfied with the UT7 combination you have
now. I would think you would usually have six jets firing (all except
LK) to obtain the slightly warm tone you like. Would adding one more be
worth the effort and risk? Or are there other aspects of UT7 that you
don't like?

Howard

John Moody wrote:
> Paul, others,
> I agree that having more jets firing makes for smoother output.  What
would
> you think of the following inkset to exploit that characteristic?
>
> All 7 slots of the 2200 are used.  Blend FS and FSN approximately 50% each
> with some adjustment for tone based on paper white.
> Eboni
> UT-FS-C and UT-FSN-C
> UT-FS-M and UT-FSN-M
> UT-FS-Y and UT-FSN-Y
>
> My recent work creating curves for UT-7 + UT-FS-Y on Kirkland, has
resulted
> in very smooth ramps and a very consistent dither pattern throughout the
> range, similar to what you get with the EZ/Epson approach.  This only
> happened after very critical evaluation (i1 and eye-ball) and fine
> adjustment of the curves.  What I'm after is basically a monotone inkset
> that is slightly warm, and has as many jets firing as possible for
> smoothness.  I suppose I could try K7, but I would like the option to
print
> glossy as well.
>
> Best regards,
> John Moody
>



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RE: [Digital BW] Mild warm inkset for 2200, with smooth print output

2005-11-04 by Paul Roark

John,

> I agree that having more jets firing makes for smoother output.  
>What would you think of the following inkset to exploit that 
>characteristic?
> 
> All 7 slots of the 2200 are used.  Blend FS and FSN approximately 50% each
> with some adjustment for tone based on paper white.
> Eboni
> UT-FS-C and UT-FSN-C
> UT-FS-M and UT-FSN-M
> UT-FS-Y and UT-FSN-Y
> 
> My recent work creating curves for UT-7 + UT-FS-Y on Kirkland, has
> resulted
> in very smooth ramps and a very consistent dither pattern throughout the
> range, similar to what you get with the EZ/Epson approach.  This only
> happened after very critical evaluation (i1 and eye-ball) and fine
> adjustment of the curves.  What I'm after is basically a monotone inkset
> that is slightly warm, and has as many jets firing as possible for
> smoothness.  

UT-FSN is 50% FSN and 50% carbon.  So, the range you'll have with this setup
is neutral/cool (depending on paper), to medium warm.  I personally like to
occasionally print pure carbon warm (about half way to sepia and much more
lightfast), so I have FSN and carbon in my 7500 and lean toward that
combination.  However, your selection would have less color contrast and
thus be slightly smoother.

I don't like the Y and M density spread.  They are too close; C & M are too
far apart.  The standard "light" UT2, UT7, R200 EZ (just by coincidence
Epson) density differential that optimizes the typical Epson driver is
darker than the old M density.  

There is no FS in that density, but since FS is 50% carbon (UT2 LM or UT7
LC) and 50% FSN of the same density (7500 FSN+ LC [MIS may call this UT7500
LC, and the mix is on my 7500 Readme file] or R200 EZ-N LC or LM [out soon])
you can easily make an FS of the standard "Epson Light" density (or middle
gray for those of us who use FS-Y).

So, with the caveat that I'd use a different middle dray density, the idea
seems like a good one for the medium warm to neutral range.

Good luck with it.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

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