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2005-11-11 by guiseppiverdi
Hello, How can I do the best b&w printing on my Epson 4000 while staying with the standard black and color cartridges. It's been too big an investment for me to go to the 4800 soon. Thanks, guiseppi (aka John)
2005-11-11 by koloshor
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "guiseppiverdi" <joscribbler@c...> wrote: > > Hello, How can I do the best b&w printing on my Epson 4000 while staying with the standard > black and color cartridges. It's been too big an investment for me to go to the 4800 soon. > Thanks, guiseppi (aka John) Three words: Quad Tone RIP (I think it's three words, anyway). http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRoverview.html It will let you print B&W that is accuratly linearized (nice detail from shadow to highlight, and a good ability to get a screen to print match) give you relatively neutral tones, and will eliminate metamerism (weird color shifts when going from daylight to tungsten light to fluorescent light).
2005-11-11 by Tom Baker
Guiseppi -
Either a rip (like Imageprint), or QTR from Roy Harrington, or IJC/OPM. All will deliver very nice b&w. The rip solution is the most expensive, with Roy's QTR being the least expensive - but not lacking in results.
Tom Baker
guiseppiverdi <joscribbler@...> wrote:
Hello, How can I do the best b&w printing on my Epson 4000 while staying with the standard
black and color cartridges. It's been too big an investment for me to go to the 4800 soon.
Thanks, guiseppi (aka John)
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-11-12 by John Opie
Tom, I've looked into Imageprint rip, but not the others, so thanks for the multiple answer to a single-choice question. (eh?) John On Nov 11, 2005, at 3:36 PM, Tom Baker wrote: > Guiseppi - > > Either a rip (like Imageprint), or QTR from Roy Harrington, or IJC/ > OPM. All will deliver very nice b&w. The rip solution is the most > expensive, with Roy's QTR being the least expensive - but not > lacking in results. > > Tom Baker > > > guiseppiverdi <joscribbler@...> wrote: > Hello, How can I do the best b&w printing on my Epson 4000 while > staying with the standard > black and color cartridges. It's been too big an investment for me > to go to the 4800 soon. > Thanks, guiseppi (aka John) > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. 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2005-11-12 by John Opie
Hello koloshor, Thanks for the url below. It's not one I've heard of before, and the price is right. I've only looked at Imageprint before this. John On Nov 11, 2005, at 2:50 PM, koloshor wrote: > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "guiseppiverdi" > <joscribbler@c...> wrote: > > > > Hello, How can I do the best b&w printing on my Epson 4000 while > staying with the standard > > black and color cartridges. It's been too big an investment for me > to go to the 4800 soon. > > Thanks, guiseppi (aka John) > > Three words: Quad Tone RIP (I think it's three words, anyway). > > http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRoverview.html > > It will let you print B&W that is accuratly linearized (nice detail > from shadow to highlight, and a good ability to get a screen to print > match) give you relatively neutral tones, and will eliminate > metamerism (weird color shifts when going from daylight to tungsten > light to fluorescent light). > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Digital wedding photography Learn digital photography Digital > photography college > Digital photography Digital photography web site Digital > photography course > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-11-12 by scott_now_coming
Try BLACK ONLY (bo) printing. The 4000 produces the best B.O. prints. It's all in the dithering patern. Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "guiseppiverdi" <joscribbler@c...> wrote: > > Hello, How can I do the best b&w printing on my Epson 4000 while staying with the standard > black and color cartridges. It's been too big an investment for me to go to the 4800 soon. > Thanks, guiseppi (aka John) >
2005-11-14 by koloshor
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, John Opie <joscribbler@c...> wrote: > > Hello koloshor, > > Thanks for the url below. It's not one I've heard of before, and the > price is right. I've only looked at Imageprint before this. > You're quite welcome. Let us know how it works out for you. There's a lot of happy QTR users on this group.