Digital BW, The Print

Hi all,

Firstly warm thanks to all on this list. Without your knowledge, I would 
never come this far. I have a one man show on a local art gallery in 
january and I've been printing the prints. I have a HP deskjet 9800, 
which, as strange it sounds, prints stunning BO prints. Don't know if 
it's the subject (minimalism) or what, but the prints look better on 
epson radiant white watercolour paper black-only. The prints printed 
with 3 greys are ok, but BO has the punch in it.

So much for that. Now I need advice on how to frame the pictures for the 
show. I have some 50 pictures (it's not a small place) so just framing 
everything costs too much. The prints are mainly super-B sized and I'm 
thinking just to mount them on a cardboard without any frames and the 
cardboard cutted to the size of the print, so no extra space around the 
print. I've framed some of the prints and they're on the wall here in my 
home, but I must truly say, I dislike the glass. Maybe a non-glaring 
glass would be ok, but I doubt I can get it this soon and the cost as 
I'm already invested enough money for this project.

As I said, the prints are minimalistc B&W prints, so I think the display 
can also be minimalistic. But as january is coming nearer and nearer 
every day and so is my sleep, I'd really much like to hear so advices in 
this matter. I'm happy with the prints (more than happy) but I'd like 
also the show to succeed (it could be my ticket to the stars)

thanks

-matti

What are the gallery requirments; usually the director or curator dicate the types of frames, and whether the images need to be hung salon style.
   
  regards, 
  ann

Matti Koskinen <mjkoskin@...> wrote:
  Hi all,

Firstly warm thanks to all on this list. Without your knowledge, I would 
never come this far. I have a one man show on a local art gallery in 
january and I've been printing the prints. I have a HP deskjet 9800, 
which, as strange it sounds, prints stunning BO prints. Don't know if 
it's the subject (minimalism) or what, but the prints look better on 
epson radiant white watercolour paper black-only. The prints printed 
with 3 greys are ok, but BO has the punch in it.

So much for that. Now I need advice on how to frame the pictures for the 
show. I have some 50 pictures (it's not a small place) so just framing 
everything costs too much. The prints are mainly super-B sized and I'm 
thinking just to mount them on a cardboard without any frames and the 
cardboard cutted to the size of the print, so no extra space around the 
print. I've framed some of the prints and they're on the wall here in my 
home, but I must truly say, I dislike the glass. Maybe a non-glaring 
glass would be ok, but I doubt I can get it this soon and the cost as 
I'm already invested enough money for this project.

As I said, the prints are minimalistc B&W prints, so I think the display 
can also be minimalistic. But as january is coming nearer and nearer 
every day and so is my sleep, I'd really much like to hear so advices in 
this matter. I'm happy with the prints (more than happy) but I'd like 
also the show to succeed (it could be my ticket to the stars)

thanks

-matti


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Hello Matti,

>I have a one man show on a local art gallery in january and I've 
>been printing the prints. I have a HP deskjet 9800, which, as 
>strange it sounds, prints stunning BO prints. Don't know if 
>it's the subject (minimalism) or what, but the prints look better 
>on epson radiant white watercolour paper black-only. The prints 
>printed with 3 greys are ok, but BO has the punch in it.

Congrats on the show.  Also nice to hear that the HP 9800 does good BO
prints.  There are lots of Black Only lovers out there who will be
interested to hear that.  I still use BO as well as K3.  Some images
just look great with it.


>Now I need advice on how to frame the pictures for the show. 
>I have some 50 pictures (it's not a small place) 
>so just framing everything costs too much. 

Understood, it's a huge expense.  However it's only that huge the
first time.  Any unsold frames, if carefully stored to avoid
scratching, can be reused next time.  


>The prints are mainly super-B sized and I'm thinking just to mount 
>them on a cardboard without any frames and the cardboard cutted to 
>the size of the print, so no extra space around the print...
>I'd really much like to hear so advices in this matter. 

It's your art so you can do whatever looks good to you.  Here are some
things to think about:

1) Not sure what you mean by "mount" (permanent or temporary), but be
sure that whatever is used is acid free.  Cardboard probably isn't
wise.  Acid free foam core might be better.

2) If they are unglazed, think about dust, people touching them,
sneezing, etc.   Can they be cleaned?  Perhaps spraying them would be
called for...

3) What will a buyer be able to do with them?  If they are mounted
flush without borders, can they be easily matted and framed if the
buyer wants to do that?


Just some thoughts.  Good luck with the show.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Matti Koskinen
<mjkoskin@k...> wrote:

> So much for that. Now I need advice on how to frame the pictures for
the 
> show. I have some 50 pictures (it's not a small place) so just framing 
> everything costs too much. The prints are mainly super-B sized and I'm 
> thinking just to mount them on a cardboard without any frames and the 
> cardboard cutted to the size of the print, so no extra space around the 
> print. I've framed some of the prints and they're on the wall here
in my 
> home, but I must truly say, I dislike the glass. Maybe a non-glaring 
> glass would be ok, but I doubt I can get it this soon and the cost as 
> I'm already invested enough money for this project.
> 

You might take a look at the "clip" frames from
http://www.quadroclip.com/quadroclip.html  They are reasonably
inexpensive and unobtrusive.  You mount your pix to acid-free board,
them sandwich them between the masonite-like backer board and the
glass or plastic.  (I don't know if this is non-glare.)  They make
custom sizes that are available with non-glare polystyrene, both 1mm
and 2mm.  I used these some time ago for a large show, and really
liked the minimalist look.   They were cheap enough that I gave them
away with a print purchase.
 
-- Rog

They are your art work.  Present them in a way you wish to see other great photos..  Bruce Cohen

Roger Loeb <color@...> wrote:  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Matti Koskinen
<mjkoskin@k...> wrote:

> So much for that. Now I need advice on how to frame the pictures for
the 
> show. I have some 50 pictures (it's not a small place) so just framing 
> everything costs too much. The prints are mainly super-B sized and I'm 
> thinking just to mount them on a cardboard without any frames and the 
> cardboard cutted to the size of the print, so no extra space around the 
> print. I've framed some of the prints and they're on the wall here
in my 
> home, but I must truly say, I dislike the glass. Maybe a non-glaring 
> glass would be ok, but I doubt I can get it this soon and the cost as 
> I'm already invested enough money for this project.
> 

You might take a look at the "clip" frames from
http://www.quadroclip.com/quadroclip.html  They are reasonably
inexpensive and unobtrusive.  You mount your pix to acid-free board,
them sandwich them between the masonite-like backer board and the
glass or plastic.  (I don't know if this is non-glare.)  They make
custom sizes that are available with non-glare polystyrene, both 1mm
and 2mm.  I used these some time ago for a large show, and really
liked the minimalist look.   They were cheap enough that I gave them
away with a print purchase.

-- Rog








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