Digital BW, The Print

On Dec 4, 2005,Clayton Jones wrote:
>
> The 2200 also has two blacks and separate ink carts, which means
> easier refilling your own carts and experimenting with various inks
> and RIPs.
>
> Regards,
> Clayton

Hi Clayton,
Nice to meet you, CJ - it's a little freaky for me, since my middle 
initial is also J :-)
I'm just starting to test the K7 inks on my 2200, and in the past was 
using Piezo inks in a CIS system with an 1160.  There's been some
conflicting info whether the CIS  "spongeless" carts are behaving well. 
So while I'll only use regular cartridges while testing this inkset,
I know I'll want to switch to  CIS or refilling either the original K7 
carts or finding some other refillable ones. Economics dictate such a 
solution!
I'm very interested in  the latest consensus what you and other's are 
thinking.
Thanks,

Clayton J (Price)

Hello Clayton (nice name ya got there <g>),

>Nice to meet you...

Likewise.  I think you signed one of your posts the other day as Clay,
do you prefer that?


>...some conflicting info whether the CIS  "spongeless" carts are 
>behaving well...I'm very interested in  the latest consensus what 
>you and other's are thinking.

I used a 2200 with MIS refillable carts and had only one bad cart the
entire time.  But I used the regular sponge carts, never tried the
spongeless ones.  I'm now using a 2400, since August.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Hi Clayton-

I'm about to do the same thing.  I am lookign to test the K7 inl=ks on
a 2200 and in the past was using Piezo inks on a 1160 with the "no
more cart" CIS system inkject mall sold.  The CIS system was horrible
-- it clogged, it dripped, it had to be repaired a number of times, it
needed new carts, and then just didn't work right.  It was very
frustrating, and ultimately too costly.

I am very interested in the refillable, spongeless cartridge option as
it seems to be the perfect solutions for me -- Economic ink supply
without the hassle of a CIS, and I'm not using the printer so
intensively that refilling a cartridge now and then isn't much of an
inconvenience or disruption.

I'd be interested in knowing how you get on with your testing.  How
are the K7 inks on the 2200 compared to the Piezo ink (I used to use
the selenium tone inks set) on the 1160.  I'd also be interested in
knowing if you try the spongeless cartidges and what you thought of them

Thanks!

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Clayton Price 

> 
> Hi Clayton,
> Nice to meet you, CJ - it's a little freaky for me, since my middle 
> initial is also J :-)
> I'm just starting to test the K7 inks on my 2200, and in the past was 
> using Piezo inks in a CIS system with an 1160.  There's been some
> conflicting info whether the CIS  "spongeless" carts are behaving well. 
> So while I'll only use regular cartridges while testing this inkset,
> I know I'll want to switch to  CIS or refilling either the original K7 
> carts or finding some other refillable ones. Economics dictate such a 
> solution!
> I'm very interested in  the latest consensus what you and other's are 
> thinking.
> Thanks,
> 
> Clayton J (Price)
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones"
<cj@c...> wrote:
> I used a 2200 with MIS refillable carts and had only one bad cart the
> entire time.  But I used the regular sponge carts, never tried the
> spongeless ones.  I'm now using a 2400, since August.

As I understand it, spongeless carts are still not available for the
2100/2200, at least not from MIS.  They seem to have skipped a
generation, with spongless carts now available for the 1800/2400.

Do any of those here with inside knowledge know anything about if/when
spongeless refillable carts might be available for the 2100/2200?

I'm about to make the jump into refillable carts, and as I'm around
the other side of the planet to the US of A, I want to get this right.

Likewise, if someone could repost the complete list of what a starter
should order when starting out with the refillable sponge carts, I'd
appreciate it.  Or at least a link to such a list.

F_P

The 2200 shares carts (but not chips of course) with some of the C-
series printers-you might check and see if the carts are available 
for those?

Steve Karafyllakis

--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ferdinand_paris" 
<ferdinand_paris@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
Jones"
> <cj@c...> wrote:
> > I used a 2200 with MIS refillable carts and had only one bad 
cart the
> > entire time.  But I used the regular sponge carts, never tried 
the
> > spongeless ones.  I'm now using a 2400, since August.
> 
> As I understand it, spongeless carts are still not available for 
the
> 2100/2200, at least not from MIS.  They seem to have skipped a
> generation, with spongless carts now available for the 1800/2400.
> 
> Do any of those here with inside knowledge know anything about 
if/when
> spongeless refillable carts might be available for the 2100/2200?
> 
> I'm about to make the jump into refillable carts, and as I'm around
> the other side of the planet to the US of A, I want to get this 
right.
> 
> Likewise, if someone could repost the complete list of what a 
starter
> should order when starting out with the refillable sponge carts, 
I'd

> appreciate it.  Or at least a link to such a list.
> 
> F_P
>

Is there a reason why people aren't modifying the Epson (spongeless) 
carts and using those? I'll say that I've never taken one of those 
carts apart, but there must be a way to refill them. I can't see it 
taking more than a grinder and a drill to modify the cart for the 
refill. Even if you have to fill both chambers, that just means 2 
plugs. Somewhere on the Epson site is a description and diagram of how 
those spongeless carts work, and it seems like it should be a fairly 
straight forward task to modify them.