Digital BW, The Print

I would like to drill a hole in the top of the 4oz. plastic MIS ink 
bottles, and glue/epoxy the tip of a refill syringe from the inside, 
to make refilling carts as easy as possible...simply invert the 
bottle, insert the tip of the syringe into the ez-fill cart, and be 
done. However, I have no experience with plastics, and if anyone can 
suggest an epoxy that would likely accomplish a leak-proof seal, it 
would save me a ton of time/money/materials. I'll then go ahead with 
the experiment and post the results if successful. (Or maybe somone 
has already done this?) Thanks, Mark

Mark,

You would still have to remove the carts so you can re-set the chip.

Scott


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mark_roth_505" 
<mark@m...> wrote:
>
> I would like to drill a hole in the top of the 4oz. plastic MIS ink 
> bottles, and glue/epoxy the tip of a refill syringe from the 
inside, 
> to make refilling carts as easy as possible...simply invert the 
> bottle, insert the tip of the syringe into the ez-fill cart, and be 
> done. However, I have no experience with plastics, and if anyone 
can 
> suggest an epoxy that would likely accomplish a leak-proof seal, it 
> would save me a ton of time/money/materials. I'll then go ahead 
with 

> the experiment and post the results if successful. (Or maybe somone 
> has already done this?) Thanks, Mark
>

Hello Mark,

>I would like to drill a hole in the top of the 4oz. plastic MIS ink 
>bottles, and glue/epoxy the tip of a refill syringe from the inside, 
>to make refilling carts as easy as possible...

What a great idea!  After several uses the rubber plunger thingie
loses its smoothness and I've not found a way to restore it (tried
applying silicon), so I end up buying new ones now and then.  Seems
like a terrible waste of material and money.  Your idea would
eliminate the problem.  Please let us know if you find a way.  Perhaps
silicone seal...

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Clayton: I noticed disposable syringes from a mail order vet supply
are a small fraction of the MIS price. And they have 20cc ones that I
think should be ideal. 

Refilling a cart from a 4 oz. squeeze bottle reminds me of the phrase
"drinking from a firehose". 

Bob Michaels

 --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones"
<cj@c...> wrote:
so I end up buying new ones now and then.  Seems like a terrible waste
of material and money.

In the US you can get them inexpensively from farm supply stores such
as TSC in all sizes. The last time I looked, for less than a $.

Regards
Duane



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Michaels"
<bob@b...> wrote:

>
> Clayton: I noticed disposable syringes from a mail order vet supply
> are a small fraction of the MIS price. And they have 20cc ones that I
> think should be ideal. 
> 
> Refilling a cart from a 4 oz. squeeze bottle reminds me of the phrase
> "drinking from a firehose". 
> 
> Bob Michaels
> 
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones"
> <cj@c...> wrote:
> so I end up buying new ones now and then.  Seems like a terrible waste
> of material and money.
>

--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
<scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
>
> Mark,
> 
> You would still have to remove the carts so you can re-set the chip.
> 
> Scott


Depends on the printer. Some of them can be reset or frozen with the 
Russian service utility that is around.

Think about something like one of these:

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%
5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=6252&product%5Fid=14767

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%
5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=14951&product%5Fid=14884

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%
5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=8&product%5Fid=15170

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%
5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=21319&product%5Fid=288

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%
5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=21319&product%5Fid=207

Hi Mark;

This sounded like an idea worth trying, so today when I ran across 
some epoxy formulated for plastics (a new one on me!) I bought it 
and just finished testing it. I glued the front end of a syringe to 
the outside of the cap, so if it doesnt hold well I will know rather 
quickly. However, the glue joint gives no sign of weakness. I used a 
short blunt needle, and refilled a couple carts by rinsing and 
trabsferring the needle cap. I suppose long-term it might be better 
to do a needle cap for each bottle/color, but I probably won't 
bother, I have too many of them between 3 printers.

At any rate, kudos for coming up with a good one, this works quite 
nicely.

The glue I used is Permatex 'PermaPoxy 5min. Plastic Weld' part 
no.84115. I found it in an Advance Auto Parts store, where (or if)
our overseas friends might find it or something similar, I don't 
know.

Regards,

Steve Karafyllakis

http://www.stevekphoto.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mark_roth_505" 
<mark@m...> wrote:
>
> I would like to drill a hole in the top of the 4oz. plastic MIS 
ink 
> bottles, and glue/epoxy the tip of a refill syringe from the 
inside, 
> to make refilling carts as easy as possible...simply invert the 
> bottle, insert the tip of the syringe into the ez-fill cart, and 
be 
> done. However, I have no experience with plastics, and if anyone 
can 
> suggest an epoxy that would likely accomplish a leak-proof seal, 
it 
> would save me a ton of time/money/materials. I'll then go ahead 
with 
> the experiment and post the results if successful. (Or maybe 
somone 
> has already done this?) Thanks, Mark
>