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MIS K4 inks/EPSM

2005-12-17 by Carl Schofield

The MIS K4 inks (Epson K3 clone) in my Epson 2400 printer have been  
producing excellent prints (both B&W and color) on Epson Premium  
Semimatte paper.  Beautiful, silky smooth finish with no bronzing or  
gloss differential.  If anyone else is using this combination or  
wants to try it I've put some profiles (2400MISk4Profiles.zip) up on  
my filesharing site.

Carl
http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing3.html

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MIS K4 inks/EPSM

2005-12-17 by Jeff Magidson

Carl;


What is the advantage to using MIS K4 instead of Epson K3? For the 
Semimatte are you cutting down 16" rolls ?


-Jeff
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>    Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:18:15 -0500
>    From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
> Subject: MIS K4 inks/EPSM
>
> The MIS K4 inks (Epson K3 clone) in my Epson 2400 printer have been
> producing excellent prints (both B&W and color) on Epson Premium
> Semimatte paper.  Beautiful, silky smooth finish with no bronzing or
> gloss differential.  If anyone else is using this combination or
> wants to try it I've put some profiles (2400MISk4Profiles.zip) up on
> my filesharing site.
>
> Carl
> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing3.html
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Re: [Digital BW] MIS K4 inks/EPSM

2005-12-17 by Carl Schofield

Jeff,

The K4 inks have less gloss, which I like and I can refill the carts  
from bulk.  Yes, I cut sheets from semimatte roll stock.

Carl
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On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:59 PM, Jeff Magidson wrote:

>
> Carl;
>
>
> What is the advantage to using MIS K4 instead of Epson K3? For the
> Semimatte are you cutting down 16" rolls ?
>
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>>
>>    Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:18:15 -0500
>>    From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
>> Subject: MIS K4 inks/EPSM
>>
>> The MIS K4 inks (Epson K3 clone) in my Epson 2400 printer have been
>> producing excellent prints (both B&W and color) on Epson Premium
>> Semimatte paper.  Beautiful, silky smooth finish with no bronzing or
>> gloss differential.  If anyone else is using this combination or
>> wants to try it I've put some profiles (2400MISk4Profiles.zip) up on
>> my filesharing site.
>>
>> Carl
>> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing3.html
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
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Re: MIS K4 inks/EPSM

2005-12-17 by Steven Karafyllakis

Hi Carl;

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<scho@m...> wrote:
>
> The MIS K4 inks (Epson K3 clone) in my Epson 2400 printer have been  
> producing excellent prints (both B&W and color) on Epson Premium  
> Semimatte paper.  Beautiful, silky smooth finish with no bronzing or  
> gloss differential.  If anyone else is using this combination or  
> wants to try it I've put some profiles (2400MISk4Profiles.zip) up on  
> my filesharing site.
> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing3.html


I agree, it's a good combination. I've finally got the R1800 working 
well with the K4 inks, with LLK in the red position, and LK in the glop 
position. Finally, no microbanding. I am still using the glop though, 
misted on very lightly with an airbrush. It doesn't help as much as it 
used to with the UC inks, (because the problem is almost completely 
eliminated) but it does clear that slight bit of veiling and very 
slight gloss differential still left. And guess what: the last bottle 
of glop I got is clear, not tea colored, so it doesn't yellow your 
highlights.

Steve Karafyllakis

BTW: I don't like the surface quite as much becuase it prints with more 
of that 'pearl' texture, but Red River's UltraPro Satin gets an even 
better dmax
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS K4 inks/EPSM

2005-12-17 by Carl Schofield

Thanks for the tips Steve.  I'll give the Red River paper a try.   
Dmax with the K4 inks on EPSM is 2.2, as opposed to about 2.4 with  
the K3 inks.  Despite the lower dmax with the K4 I just like the  
appearance of the prints.

Carl
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On Dec 17, 2005, at 12:33 AM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote:

> Hi Carl;
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <scho@m...> wrote:
>>
>> The MIS K4 inks (Epson K3 clone) in my Epson 2400 printer have been
>> producing excellent prints (both B&W and color) on Epson Premium
>> Semimatte paper.  Beautiful, silky smooth finish with no bronzing or
>> gloss differential.  If anyone else is using this combination or
>> wants to try it I've put some profiles (2400MISk4Profiles.zip) up on
>> my filesharing site.
>> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing3.html
>
>
> I agree, it's a good combination. I've finally got the R1800 working
> well with the K4 inks, with LLK in the red position, and LK in the  
> glop
> position. Finally, no microbanding. I am still using the glop though,
> misted on very lightly with an airbrush. It doesn't help as much as it
> used to with the UC inks, (because the problem is almost completely
> eliminated) but it does clear that slight bit of veiling and very
> slight gloss differential still left. And guess what: the last bottle
> of glop I got is clear, not tea colored, so it doesn't yellow your
> highlights.
>
> Steve Karafyllakis
>
> BTW: I don't like the surface quite as much becuase it prints with  
> more
> of that 'pearl' texture, but Red River's UltraPro Satin gets an even
> better dmax
>
>
>
>> Carl
>
>>
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>>
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[Digital BW] Re: MIS K4 inks/EPSM

2005-12-17 by Greg

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<scho@m...> wrote:
> Despite the lower dmax with the K4 I just like the  
> appearance of the prints.
> 
> Carl
> 


Which is the most important part.


That and the money you are saving.

MIS K4 inks/EPSM

2005-12-17 by Jack Winberg

Carl:

THANKS for posting those profiles, I'm eager to try them.

Would you kindly share:

How they were produced

and

exactly what kind of cartridges you are successfully filling with your K4 inks?

Thanks................ Jack Winberg

At 10:45 AM 12/17/2005, you wrote:
>From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
> > Subject: MIS K4 inks/EPSM
> >
> > The MIS K4 inks (Epson K3 clone) in my Epson 2400 printer have been
> > producing excellent prints (both B&W and color) on Epson Premium
> > Semimatte paper.  Beautiful, silky smooth finish with no bronzing or
> > gloss differential.  If anyone else is using this combination or
> > wants to try it I've put some profiles (2400MISk4Profiles.zip) up on
> > my filesharing site.
> >
> > Carl
> > http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing3.html
> >


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Re: [Digital BW] MIS K4 inks/EPSM

2005-12-17 by Carl Schofield

Jack,

The gray icc profiles were made using the Create-icc script from Roy  
Harrington.  There are neutral, neutral/warm, and very warm profiles  
for use with the Advanced B&W printing mode in the 2400 Epson driver  
- print settings you should use are shown in the read-me file.  There  
is additionally one standard RGB color profile that also has  
instructions for print settings to use with the 2400 Epson driver.  I  
bought a set of pre-filled MIS k4 carts for the 2400 and also 4 oz  
bottles of k4 inks for re-filling.  The carts are clear, spongeless  
and easily re-filled using a 10 cc syringe and a MIS chip re-setter.   
If you haven't done this before MIS offers a kit with everything you  
need for re-filling.  I bought the pre-filled carts because they  
already had chips installed and I didn't want to fuss around  
installing chips on the empty carts (no chips) that they sell for the  
2400.

Carl
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On Dec 17, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Jack Winberg wrote:

> Carl:
>
> THANKS for posting those profiles, I'm eager to try them.
>
> Would you kindly share:
>
> How they were produced
>
> and
>
> exactly what kind of cartridges you are successfully filling with  
> your K4 inks?
>
> Thanks................ Jack Winberg
>
> At 10:45 AM 12/17/2005, you wrote:
>> From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
>>> Subject: MIS K4 inks/EPSM
>>>
>>> The MIS K4 inks (Epson K3 clone) in my Epson 2400 printer have been
>>> producing excellent prints (both B&W and color) on Epson Premium
>>> Semimatte paper.  Beautiful, silky smooth finish with no bronzing or
>>> gloss differential.  If anyone else is using this combination or
>>> wants to try it I've put some profiles (2400MISk4Profiles.zip) up on
>>> my filesharing site.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing3.html
>>>
>
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