Digital BW, The Print

I am wondering how to do the following:

I have a background image layer with a levels and curves layer above it 
in the stack.  I then want to place a second (partial area) image layer 
at the top of the stack with its own levels and curves layers above 
it.  I do not want the second pair of adjustment layers to affect the 
background image layer.  In other words, I want to be able to adjust 
each of the two image layers spearately with their own pairs of 
adjustment layers.  Is there a way to do this?

Many thanks.
Walt

Hi Walt,

Create a layer set with your partial layer and adjustment layers and 
then the adjustment layers within it will apply just to the set.

Take care to watch the blend option on the layer set if you find the 
effects are 'leaking through' to layers below.

Hope this helps,

Ellie

On 15 Feb 2006 at 15:55, wwodets wrote (snipped):

> I am wondering how to do the following:
> 
> I have a background image layer with a levels and curves layer above
> it in the stack.  I then want to place a second (partial area) image
> layer at the top of the stack with its own levels and curves layers
> above it.  I do not want the second pair of adjustment layers to
> affect the background image layer.  In other words, I want to be able
> to adjust each of the two image layers spearately with their own pairs
> of adjustment layers.  Is there a way to do this?

Steve and Ellie Kennard
website:
http://www.StevenKennard.com
http://www.iiStudio.com
SKYPE ID: elliekennard

Link the adjustment layers to the second image layer by holding down the 
Alt key (on a PC) and clicking with the mouse when you see the cursor 
change when moving it between the two layers.

Howard


wwodets wrote:

> I am wondering how to do the following:
> 
> I have a background image layer with a levels and curves layer above it 
> in the stack.  I then want to place a second (partial area) image layer 
> at the top of the stack with its own levels and curves layers above 
> it.  I do not want the second pair of adjustment layers to affect the 
> background image layer.  In other words, I want to be able to adjust 
> each of the two image layers spearately with their own pairs of 
> adjustment layers.  Is there a way to do this?
> 
> Many thanks.
> Walt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hello Walt,

>In other words, I want to be able to adjust 
>each of the two image layers spearately with their own pairs of 
>adjustment layers.  Is there a way to do this?

Make sure the new curve layer is selected and is directly
over the image layer you want to affect, then press Ctrl+G (on a PC).  


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Using a group is what Ellie suggested but I'm not sure that an 
adjustment layer  won't affect layers further down the stack just 
because it's in a group.

A linked adjustment layer on the other hand, will only affect the layer 
it's linked to as Walt requires.

That's certainly how my PC version of CS2 seems to work anyway. There is 
something called a Smart Object which are similar to groups but I'm not 
sure how they work.

Howard

Clayton Jones wrote:

> Hello Walt,
> 
>>In other words, I want to be able to adjust 
>>each of the two image layers spearately with their own pairs of 
>>adjustment layers.  Is there a way to do this?
> 
> Make sure the new curve layer is selected and is directly
> over the image layer you want to affect, then press Ctrl+G (on a PC).  
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I've just discovered the group method does work as well as linking but
only if you set the Blending mode of the group to Normal from the
default Pass Through.

Howard

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Howard Shaw
<glassman@...> wrote:
>
> Using a group is what Ellie suggested but I'm not sure that an 
> adjustment layer  won't affect layers further down the stack just 
> because it's in a group.
> 
> A linked adjustment layer on the other hand, will only affect the layer 
> it's linked to as Walt requires.
> 
> That's certainly how my PC version of CS2 seems to work anyway.
There is 

> something called a Smart Object which are similar to groups but I'm not 
> sure how they work.
> 
> Howard
>

Thanks to all for their responses on this.  As Howard discovered (and 
Ellie suggested), the blending mode must be set to normal for this to 
work. 

Good wishes,
Walt 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "howard9707" 
<glassman@...> wrote:
>
> I've just discovered the group method does work as well as linking 
but
> only if you set the Blending mode of the group to Normal from the
> default Pass Through.
> 
> Howard
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Howard Shaw
> <glassman@> wrote:
> >
> > Using a group is what Ellie suggested but I'm not sure that an 
> > adjustment layer  won't affect layers further down the stack just 
> > because it's in a group.
> > 
> > A linked adjustment layer on the other hand, will only affect the 
layer 
> > it's linked to as Walt requires.
> > 
> > That's certainly how my PC version of CS2 seems to work anyway.
> There is 
> > something called a Smart Object which are similar to groups but 
I'm not 

> > sure how they work.
> > 
> > Howard
> >
>

Today, I received ink and empty 220 ml cartridge for my 4000 printer,  
it took less than a week, great service from MIS.

However, when I look at these new cartridge, I don't understand how  
to refill them. I don't see any other holes than the outlet, is it  
here the ink goes in?
If so I understand I need some kind of adapter to fill.....

TIA,
danny

Hi Walt,

You can have several layers and select -say- the top
one, to which you want to apply an adjustment or even
several of them. Make adjustment layers on top of it,
and when done, select them and the layer you're
working on. Group them as a smart object and your
adjustment will only affect the layer with which you
grouped them without affecting any of the layers
underneath. You can change contrast, color and
everything you want to just one part of an image in a
pretty simple manner. FWIW

Pablo

--- wwodets <odets@...> wrote:

> Thanks to all for their responses on this.  As
> Howard discovered (and 
> Ellie suggested), the blending mode must be set to
> normal for this to 
> work. 
> 
> Good wishes,
> Walt 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "howard9707" 
> <glassman@...> wrote:
> >
> > I've just discovered the group method does work as
> well as linking 
> but
> > only if you set the Blending mode of the group to
> Normal from the
> > default Pass Through.
> > 
> > Howard
> > 
> > --- In
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Howard
> Shaw
> > <glassman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Using a group is what Ellie suggested but I'm
> not sure that an 
> > > adjustment layer  won't affect layers further
> down the stack just 
> > > because it's in a group.
> > > 
> > > A linked adjustment layer on the other hand,
> will only affect the 
> layer 
> > > it's linked to as Walt requires.
> > > 
> > > That's certainly how my PC version of CS2 seems
> to work anyway.
> > There is 
> > > something called a Smart Object which are
> similar to groups but 
> I'm not 
> > > sure how they work.
> > > 
> > > Howard
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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What cartridge did you get?  You should have got the funnel fill ones.
Instructions here on the MIS site where you'd expect them to be:

http://www.inksupply.com/instructions/ff_install.cfm

> From: Danny Twang <dannyt@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:06:02 +0100
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Refilling 220ml cartridge
> 
> Today, I received ink and empty 220 ml cartridge for my 4000 printer,
> it took less than a week, great service from MIS.
> 
> However, when I look at these new cartridge, I don't understand how
> to refill them. I don't see any other holes than the outlet, is it
> here the ink goes in?
> If so I understand I need some kind of adapter to fill.....
> 
> TIA,
> danny

I didn't got the new ones, I ordered before they came in stock:-(
I have since learned that i will need a MIS 7600 Fill Adapter, so I  
will order one right away.

Thanks,
danny

> What cartridge did you get?  You should have got the funnel fill ones.
> Instructions here on the MIS site where you'd expect them to be:
>
> http://www.inksupply.com/instructions/ff_install.cfm
>


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Yes. Option click on the line between the adjustment and the layer below to
indent it -- then it will only apply to the layer below it. If you do this
correctly you'll see two overlapping circles as you do it. You can get
additional control on the layers by creating custom masks on the layers.

Do a search in the Adobe Help for "clipping mask" and layers.

Jim


On 2/15/06 12:56 PM, "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com"
<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> Subject: PS CS2 Adjustment layers question . . .
> 
> I am wondering how to do the following:
> 
> I have a background image layer with a levels and curves layer above it
> in the stack.  I then want to place a second (partial area) image layer
> at the top of the stack with its own levels and curves layers above
> it.  I do not want the second pair of adjustment layers to affect the
> background image layer.  In other words, I want to be able to adjust
> each of the two image layers spearately with their own pairs of
> adjustment layers.  Is there a way to do this?
> 
> Many thanks.
> Walt