Digital BW, The Print

Hi all,
I always seem to be several months behind the curve (heh) on b&w 
printing.  I think I actually know how one is supposed to use QTR now. 
Kinda.

So I found out that I am "supposed" to be using the RGB Photo profile if
I"m printing to file in Qimage, right?  Previously, I had not been.  I'd
been happy with the results, but figured I should try and see it went
using things "correctly."

Well, now I'm getting a LOT of bronzing on the Kirkland glossy paper.
Is it correct to assume that this is just because I don't have a profile
for the paper and I need to adjust the ink limit?

just making sure.
allan
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What printer and inkset are you using?

Chris Hargens


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Allan Chen 
<allan@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I always seem to be several months behind the curve (heh) on b&w 
> printing.  I think I actually know how one is supposed to use QTR 
now. 
> Kinda.
> 
> So I found out that I am "supposed" to be using the RGB Photo 
profile if
> I"m printing to file in Qimage, right?  Previously, I had not 
been.  I'd
> been happy with the results, but figured I should try and see it 
went
> using things "correctly."
> 
> Well, now I'm getting a LOT of bronzing on the Kirkland glossy 
paper.
> Is it correct to assume that this is just because I don't have a 
profile

> for the paper and I need to adjust the ink limit?
> 
> just making sure.
> allan
> -- 
> http://allan.kaiyen.com
> http://photos.kaiyen.com
>

Ha!  I _always_ forget something.  Sheesh.

1280 with UT2.

allan

Chris Hargens wrote:
> What printer and inkset are you using?
> 
> Chris Hargens
> 
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Allan Chen 
> <allan@...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I always seem to be several months behind the curve (heh) on b&w 
>> printing.  I think I actually know how one is supposed to use QTR 
> now. 
>> Kinda.
>>
>> So I found out that I am "supposed" to be using the RGB Photo 
> profile if
>> I"m printing to file in Qimage, right?  Previously, I had not 
> been.  I'd
>> been happy with the results, but figured I should try and see it 
> went
>> using things "correctly."
>>
>> Well, now I'm getting a LOT of bronzing on the Kirkland glossy 
> paper.
>> Is it correct to assume that this is just because I don't have a 
> profile
>> for the paper and I need to adjust the ink limit?
>>
>> just making sure.
>> allan
>> -- 
>> http://allan.kaiyen.com
>> http://photos.kaiyen.com
>>
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I'm assuming you are using the PK ink. I'm printing on Kirkland using 
QTR with a 2200 loaded with PKN and MIS Pro light black. I haven't seen 
any bronzing --  even when I've increased black boost in the profile, 
as well as moving the slider to deepen blacks/shadows. I've also 
printed on Kirkland using QTR via Qimage's "Print to file". I used the 
QTR gray lab profile and got good results -- no bronzing or artifacts. 
I would speculate that MIS PK might be a bit more given to bronzing 
than the PKN but not enough to create the problems you described. If 
you haven't already, I suggest you try printing directly through QTR to 
make certain that you haven't inadvertantly loaded an Eboni cart into 
the black position. Also -- just to see what happens -- you could 
process the file through Qimage as a grayscale and convert the 
resulting Print to File file from rgb to QTR's photo black profile. 

Chris Hargens


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, Allan Chen 
<allan@...> wrote:

>
> Ha!  I _always_ forget something.  Sheesh.
> 
> 1280 with UT2.
> 
> allan

Actually, this is with Eboni.  I thought I couldn't use the gray lab 
profile in Qimage because it needed an RGB profile?  Maybe that's my 
problem...

I'll try a couple of your suggestions.

allan

Chris Hargens wrote:
> I'm assuming you are using the PK ink. I'm printing on Kirkland using 
> QTR with a 2200 loaded with PKN and MIS Pro light black. I haven't seen 
> any bronzing --  even when I've increased black boost in the profile, 
> as well as moving the slider to deepen blacks/shadows. I've also 
> printed on Kirkland using QTR via Qimage's "Print to file". I used the 
> QTR gray lab profile and got good results -- no bronzing or artifacts. 
> I would speculate that MIS PK might be a bit more given to bronzing 
> than the PKN but not enough to create the problems you described. If 
> you haven't already, I suggest you try printing directly through QTR to 
> make certain that you haven't inadvertantly loaded an Eboni cart into 
> the black position. Also -- just to see what happens -- you could 
> process the file through Qimage as a grayscale and convert the 
> resulting Print to File file from rgb to QTR's photo black profile. 
> 
> Chris Hargens
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Allan Chen 
> <allan@...> wrote:
>> Ha!  I _always_ forget something.  Sheesh.
>>
>> 1280 with UT2.
>>
>> allan
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