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Wouldn't be nice to have a Durabrite 75 Year waterproof qiad-black 
set of dyes?

Wouldn't it be nice if they were waterproof?

Wouldn't be nice if they came in three flavors, neutral, warm and 
cool?

Wouldn't be nice if the printed on coated and uncoated papers?

Wouldn't it be nice is eventually they were 200 year dyes?

What a dream.

Mike

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "mkravit" 
<michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
> Wishlist

There is much talk about these new DuraBrites today on the 
Epson9000 list. It appears that they are pigments, and appear to 
be waterproof, yet have a large color gamut. (They are not quads, 
as is your wish, but they certainly, hopefully, could be profiled 
and brought under control).

I have no direct knowledge of this; it seems the inks are only in 
the C80 right now, which I have not seen. But there is a 
buzz about town about them...

Rumored to be used in the new Epson 8000... (?)

-Curious George

>I just bought a C- 80 tonight after reading some of the good reviews 
>on those inks also on the 9000 list and am making a profile . I will 
>let you know.


Stephen Harrison

>
>There is much talk about these new DuraBrites today on the
>Epson9000 list. It appears that they are pigments, and appear to
>be waterproof, yet have a large color gamut. (They are not quads,
>as is your wish, but they certainly, hopefully, could be profiled
>and brought under control).
>
>I have no direct knowledge of this; it seems the inks are only in
>the C80 right now, which I have not seen. But there is a
>buzz about town about them...
>
>Rumored to be used in the new Epson 8000... (?)
>
>-Curious George
>
>

I felt fairly certain, but only 'certain' in that  hazy-memory kind-of way,
that the black ink and the coloured inks were different formulations - that
no one mentioned on the 9000 group.

My recollection was that the logic was - for text type documents the type of
black required is different from the requirements for colour images, so the
driver could avoid use of K in images and only use it for text.

If that is true, this may explain why some people have commented on weak
blacks on certain papers.

Nij

> -----Original Message-----
> From: marktuckerdotcom [mailto:mark@...]
> Sent: 15 January 2002 02:10
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 75 Year Quad-Black Dyes
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "mkravit"
> <michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
> > Wishlist
>
> There is much talk about these new DuraBrites today on the
> Epson9000 list. It appears that they are pigments, and appear to
> be waterproof, yet have a large color gamut. (They are not quads,
> as is your wish, but they certainly, hopefully, could be profiled
> and brought under control).
>
> I have no direct knowledge of this; it seems the inks are only in
> the C80 right now, which I have not seen. But there is a
> buzz about town about them...
>
> Rumored to be used in the new Epson 8000... (?)
>
> -Curious George

Steve,

>I just bought a C- 80 tonight after reading some of the good reviews
>on those inks also on the 9000 list and am making a profile . I will
>let you know.

I'm very curious about that printer.  Going back to 4 inks may be the way to
go for many uses, including the quad printers.  Very compact dots of more
concentrated ink may achieve better "aggregation" (compaction of the
crystals so that they protect each other from oxidation) than the light inks
and thus fade less.  (Is a 3000 replacement with that technology next?)

Could you make 2 standard 21-step test strips on EAM for me?  I'd love to
see how good the black is and how the combination will do in my fader.  I
think Epson is now using non-polymer-coated black. I wonder if it is
"enhanced" like the Generations -- i.e., has dye added.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

> >I just bought a C- 80 tonight after reading some of the good 
reviews
> >on those inks also on the 9000 list and am making a profile . I 
will
> >let you know.


I almost ordered one just out of curiosity. But then, after seeing 
the inkcarts listed on Outpost, I was reminded of the hassle 
factor and cost of inks for those tiny printers. So I'm gonna pass.

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3063919

Wouldn't it be great if you could cram big old 9000 carts in one of 
those little printers, and just be done with it for good?

Mark Tucker

Mark, just decant the large cartridges into 4 ounce bottles. Works just
fine. Then get a CIS system.

Jerry

> Wouldn't it be great if you could cram big old 9000 carts in one of
> those little printers, and just be done with it for good?
> 
> Mark Tucker