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Illford Gallerie

2006-06-02 by ronherst

Does anyone know of an ink jet paper for printing digital photos that 
is similar in color/brightness and texture to the graded Illford 
Gallerie paper used for printing black and white negatives?

Ron

Re: [Digital BW] Illford Gallerie

2006-06-02 by Mark Savoia

Illford Gallerie Pearl Smooth
http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/prod_html/galerie/default.htm
But will work only with certain inksets.

On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:27 PM, ronherst wrote:

Does anyone know of an ink jet paper for printing digital photos that
is similar in color/brightness and texture to the graded Illford
Gallerie paper used for printing black and white negatives?

Ron
>



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RE: [Digital BW] Illford Gallerie

2006-06-02 by gary bunton

Ron, ilford actually makes smooth pearl in galleria paper, and several others for inkjet. just make sure there compatable with your printer.




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Does anyone know of an ink jet paper for printing digital photos that <BR>
is similar in color/brightness and texture to the graded Illford <BR>
Gallerie paper used for printing black and white negatives?<BR>
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Re: Illford Gallerie

2006-06-02 by Steven Karafyllakis

Hi Ron;

The original Galerie was a beautiful warmish FB paper, I used it a few 
times and loved it when I did; Unfortunately, the inkjet papers by the 
same name have nothing in common with it, except the name. The inkjet 
papers are RC, and resemble Ilford's Multigrade RC papers. Some of the 
new generation of cotton glossy and semi-gloss papers get a lot closer, 
but we're still not quite there yet, most of us are still looking for 
the right combination of longevity, Dmax, brightness, base color and 
surface texture that made many of the halide papers so nice. Of course, 
that wasn't a single look, it was a range, so best advice is try as 
many as you can and see what rings your bell.

Steve Karafyllakis

http://www.stevekphoto.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ronherst" 
<ronherst@...> wrote:
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> Does anyone know of an ink jet paper for printing digital photos that 
> is similar in color/brightness and texture to the graded Illford 
> Gallerie paper used for printing black and white negatives?
> 
> Ron
>

RE: [Digital BW] Illford Gallerie

2006-06-02 by Paul Roark

> 
> Does anyone know of an ink jet paper for printing digital photos that
> is similar in color/brightness and texture to the graded Illford
> Gallerie paper used for printing black and white negatives?

I think the inkjet papers that have a finish that is closest to the old
silver prints are Crane Museo Silver Rag and Innova Fiber Gloss (sold by
PermaJet in Europe as Fibre Based Gloss).  To get the tone the same you'd
probably have to make a custom profile/curve with one of the variable-tone
inksets from MIS.  

I am interested in making profiles for the traditional papers for the MIS
UT-3D inkset.  So, if people will send me Lab readings of the great old
silver papers, or a sample or test strip of such with a good selection of
densities, I'll take a shot at a profile that will match that old paper with
one of these new inkjet papers.  I currently have the UT-3D running on the
220, 2200 and 2400.  Contact me of list if you're interested in trading a
sample print/test strip for a profile for one of these printers and the
UT-3D inkset.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Illford Gallerie

2006-06-03 by Carl Schofield

Paul,

Attached are some data for one of my old Oriental Seagull (selenium  
toned) silver prints.  I just collected spot measurements from  
different areas of the print, but I don't have a step wedge print.   
Might be OK as a sample for hue.  Measurements were made with an x- 
rite pulse spectrophotometer (UV filtered) and are tabulated in the  
attached ascii file as Lab and density (CMYV) readings.  I don't have  
the 3D inks yet for my 2400 but I do want to try them with your  
workflow.

Carl


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On Jun 2, 2006, at 3:57 PM, Paul Roark wrote:

>>
>> Does anyone know of an ink jet paper for printing digital photos that
>> is similar in color/brightness and texture to the graded Illford
>> Gallerie paper used for printing black and white negatives?
>
> I think the inkjet papers that have a finish that is closest to the  
> old
> silver prints are Crane Museo Silver Rag and Innova Fiber Gloss  
> (sold by
> PermaJet in Europe as Fibre Based Gloss).  To get the tone the same  
> you'd
> probably have to make a custom profile/curve with one of the  
> variable-tone
> inksets from MIS.
>
> I am interested in making profiles for the traditional papers for  
> the MIS
> UT-3D inkset.  So, if people will send me Lab readings of the great  
> old
> silver papers, or a sample or test strip of such with a good  
> selection of
> densities, I'll take a shot at a profile that will match that old  
> paper with
> one of these new inkjet papers.  I currently have the UT-3D running  
> on the
> 220, 2200 and 2400.  Contact me of list if you're interested in  
> trading a
> sample print/test strip for a profile for one of these printers and  
> the
> UT-3D inkset.
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>


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Re: [Digital BW] Illford Gallerie

2006-06-03 by Carl Schofield

Sorry, I meant to send this off-list to Paul.
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On Jun 3, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Carl Schofield wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Attached are some data for one of my old Oriental Seagull (selenium  
> toned) silver prints.  I just collected spot measurements from  
> different areas of the print, but I don't have a step wedge print.   
> Might be OK as a sample for hue.  Measurements were made with an x- 
> rite pulse spectrophotometer (UV filtered) and are tabulated in the  
> attached ascii file as Lab and density (CMYV) readings.  I don't  
> have the 3D inks yet for my 2400 but I do want to try them with  
> your workflow.
>
> Carl
>
> <Seagull.zip>
>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 3:57 PM, Paul Roark wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of an ink jet paper for printing digital photos  
>>> that
>>> is similar in color/brightness and texture to the graded Illford
>>> Gallerie paper used for printing black and white negatives?
>>
>> I think the inkjet papers that have a finish that is closest to  
>> the old
>> silver prints are Crane Museo Silver Rag and Innova Fiber Gloss  
>> (sold by
>> PermaJet in Europe as Fibre Based Gloss).  To get the tone the  
>> same you'd
>> probably have to make a custom profile/curve with one of the  
>> variable-tone
>> inksets from MIS.
>>
>> I am interested in making profiles for the traditional papers for  
>> the MIS
>> UT-3D inkset.  So, if people will send me Lab readings of the  
>> great old
>> silver papers, or a sample or test strip of such with a good  
>> selection of
>> densities, I'll take a shot at a profile that will match that old  
>> paper with
>> one of these new inkjet papers.  I currently have the UT-3D  
>> running on the
>> 220, 2200 and 2400.  Contact me of list if you're interested in  
>> trading a
>> sample print/test strip for a profile for one of these printers  
>> and the
>> UT-3D inkset.
>>
>> Paul
>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>

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