Digital BW, The Print

i do not like any of the print colors that i get with mis ut2 or the neutral utfsn.
i love the color of ebony, but do not get satisfactory results(on 1280 epson) printing black 
only. the quality just is not as good as with the 'color' converted cartridge. what can i do that 
is not too complicated? i just want to use an eboni colored cartridge, are there  eboni colored 
cartridges for the 1280?thank you.

What about using the UT2 Warm catridges?  Eboni is pure carbon so 
they may match the tonality you're looking for.   

http://home1.gte.net/res0a2zt/V-tone.html

I haven't tried it yet but here's a quote from Paul in a previous 
post.  
> > The image at the link below has a Lab b* of about 7.  Pure carbon
> is just a
> > bit over 7 on EEM.  So, that would be a full set of R2 warm 
carts.
> >

Brian
http://www.brianchapmanphotography.com


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "levin29photo" 
<levin29photo@...> wrote:
>
> i do not like any of the print colors that i get with mis ut2 or 
the neutral utfsn.
> i love the color of ebony, but do not get satisfactory results(on 
1280 epson) printing black 
> only. the quality just is not as good as with the 'color' 
converted cartridge. what can i do that 
> is not too complicated? i just want to use an eboni colored 
cartridge, are there  eboni colored 
> cartridges for the 1280?thank you.
>

Hello Levin29,

>i do not like any of the print colors that i get with mis ut2 or 
>the neutral utfsn. i love the color of ebony, but do not get 
>satisfactory results(on 1280 epson) printing black only. the 
>quality just is not as good as with the 'color' converted cartridge. 
>what can i do that is not too complicated? 

You have nicely summed up the dilemma that many of us faced for
several years.  Even though BO prints are grainy, I stuck with that as
my primary method for several years because I too didn't care for the
color and general look of the easy out-of-the-box methods with the
full ink sets (UT2, UT7, EZ-C86, etc).  The only way to get control of
these inks and get what you want is to use a RIP, which may take it
beyond the border of "not too complicated" for you.

The only thing I can recommend that gives really beautiful results and
is as easy as BO or the EZ methods is the new 2400 in ABW mode.  Only
problem is it's an $800 printer.  But I've found it to be worth every
penny.  So scrape together all your shekels, sell your baseball card
collection and anything else you can part with, and run don't walk and
get a 2400.  Great printer.  


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

> i do not like any of the print colors that i get with mis ut2 or the
> neutral utfsn.
> i love the color of ebony, but do not get satisfactory results(on 1280
> epson) printing black
> only. the quality just is not as good ...

You'd also find that when Eboni is diluted it no longer has the "Eboni"
look.  It looks just like the other dilute carbon inks -- quite warm.


>  what can i do that is not too complicated? 

Once there are pre-made profiles for the UT-3D inkset (see
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT-3D_Readme.pdf),  you'd be able to easily
use those.  I have no doubt that the inkset can duplicate the tones you like
and will run on the 1280, but I have no immediate plans to buy a 1280 and
write the profiles.  So, doing it yourself is an option, but it may be more
complicated than you want.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

thank you, L29

--- Clayton Jones <cj@...> wrote:

> Hello Levin29,
> 
> >i do not like any of the print colors that i get
> with mis ut2 or 
> >the neutral utfsn. i love the color of ebony, but
> do not get 
> >satisfactory results(on 1280 epson) printing black
> only. the 
> >quality just is not as good as with the 'color'
> converted cartridge. 
> >what can i do that is not too complicated? 
> 
> You have nicely summed up the dilemma that many of
> us faced for
> several years.  Even though BO prints are grainy, I
> stuck with that as
> my primary method for several years because I too
> didn't care for the
> color and general look of the easy out-of-the-box
> methods with the
> full ink sets (UT2, UT7, EZ-C86, etc).  The only way
> to get control of
> these inks and get what you want is to use a RIP,
> which may take it
> beyond the border of "not too complicated" for you.
> 
> The only thing I can recommend that gives really
> beautiful results and
> is as easy as BO or the EZ methods is the new 2400
> in ABW mode.  Only
> problem is it's an $800 printer.  But I've found it
> to be worth every
> penny.  So scrape together all your shekels, sell
> your baseball card
> collection and anything else you can part with, and
> run don't walk and
> get a 2400.  Great printer.  
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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I get great results w/ MIS "Eboni" for Black Only printing w/ my 1280.

However, I've never tried the 2400. Additionally, I've not got the space for the 2400.



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, robert levin <levin29photo@...> 
wrote:

>
> thank you, L29
> 
> --- Clayton Jones <cj@...> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Levin29,
> > 
> > >i do not like any of the print colors that i get
> > with mis ut2 or 
> > >the neutral utfsn. i love the color of ebony, but
> > do not get 
> > >satisfactory results(on 1280 epson) printing black
> > only. the 
> > >quality just is not as good as with the 'color'
> > converted cartridge. 
> > >what can i do that is not too complicated? 
> > 
> > You have nicely summed up the dilemma that many of
> > us faced for
> > several years.  Even though BO prints are grainy, I
> > stuck with that as
> > my primary method for several years because I too
> > didn't care for the
> > color and general look of the easy out-of-the-box
> > methods with the
> > full ink sets (UT2, UT7, EZ-C86, etc).  The only way
> > to get control of
> > these inks and get what you want is to use a RIP,
> > which may take it
> > beyond the border of "not too complicated" for you.
> > 
> > The only thing I can recommend that gives really
> > beautiful results and
> > is as easy as BO or the EZ methods is the new 2400
> > in ABW mode.  Only
> > problem is it's an $800 printer.  But I've found it
> > to be worth every
> > penny.  So scrape together all your shekels, sell
> > your baseball card
> > collection and anything else you can part with, and
> > run don't walk and
> > get a 2400.  Great printer.  
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Clayton
> > 
> > 
> > Info on black and white digital printing at    
> > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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