Digital BW, The Print

Is there such a thing out there? Can one cut (successfully) wider rolls for this printer?

I've used a carpenter's finish chop saw to cut rolls down. Just make
sure you wrap masking tape around the cut area. The resulting paper
will generally have a slight fuzz, unlike when you use a slitter, or
regular roll cutter.

John Nollendorfs
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Phill Potter"
<phillpotter@...> wrote:
>
> Is there such a thing out there? Can one cut (successfully) wider
rolls for this printer?
>

Phil,

I have a R1800 which is also a 13 inch wide machine. My approach is to 
buy 17 inch rolls and cut off sheets 13 inch wide. I don't shoot in the 
2x3 format so my images end up 12.5 wide x 12.5 to 16.25 long depending 
on the image. You do have to cut them ahead of time and flatten them 
out, but it seems efficient and is easy to do with my mat cutter. I put 
the cut sheets in a 13x 19 sleeve and put that under a print box or two 
for a couple of days.

Will Gibson

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, will gibson <will@...> wrote:
>
> Phil,
> 
> I have a R1800 which is also a 13 inch wide machine. My approach is to 
> buy 17 inch rolls and cut off sheets 13 inch wide. I don't shoot in the 
> 2x3 format so my images end up 12.5 wide x 12.5 to 16.25 long depending 
> on the image. You do have to cut them ahead of time and flatten them 
> out, but it seems efficient and is easy to do with my mat cutter. I put 
> the cut sheets in a 13x 19 sleeve and put that under a print box or two 
> for a couple of days.
> 
> Will Gibson
>
Will

Many of our images are of the 10 to 12 inch by 25 to 40 inch. I presume I could cut these 
sheets as needed, perhaps a couple of days ahead. 
Do they really flatten out after a couple of days? 
I've found the Epson Lustre in rolls is very difficult to flatten.
Many thanks for the help.

Phill

Phil,

The only reason my method works for me is that the roll is 17 "" wide 
and I cut it to 13" strips. In reality, the only reason I need to 
flatten mine (Hahnemuehle Rag & Pearl. The Epson Glossy comes in a 13" 
roll) is that the curl of the paper is at 90 degrees to what a 'normal' 
roll would have and can bind. I'm afraid that taping up a wider roll and 
cutting the whole thing down is what you need to do. I know some folks 
like Digital Art Supplies in San Diego do commercially cut down some 
rolls to 13 inch, but you'd have to contact them. 
(http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/)

Will




Phill Potter wrote:

>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, will gibson <will@...> wrote:
>  
>
>>Phil,
>>
>>I have a R1800 which is also a 13 inch wide machine. My approach is to 
>>buy 17 inch rolls and cut off sheets 13 inch wide. I don't shoot in the 
>>2x3 format so my images end up 12.5 wide x 12.5 to 16.25 long depending 
>>on the image. You do have to cut them ahead of time and flatten them 
>>out, but it seems efficient and is easy to do with my mat cutter. I put 
>>the cut sheets in a 13x 19 sleeve and put that under a print box or two 
>>for a couple of days.
>>
>>Will Gibson
>>
>>    
>>
>Will
>
>Many of our images are of the 10 to 12 inch by 25 to 40 inch. I presume I could cut these 
>sheets as needed, perhaps a couple of days ahead. 
>Do they really flatten out after a couple of days? 
>I've found the Epson Lustre in rolls is very difficult to flatten.
>Many thanks for the help.
>
>Phill
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, will gibson <will@...> wrote:
>
> Phil,
> 
> The only reason my method works for me is that the roll is 17 "" wide 
> and I cut it to 13" strips. In reality, the only reason I need to 
> flatten mine (Hahnemuehle Rag & Pearl. The Epson Glossy comes in a 13" 
> roll) is that the curl of the paper is at 90 degrees to what a 'normal' 
> roll would have and can bind. I'm afraid that taping up a wider roll and 
> cutting the whole thing down is what you need to do. I know some folks 
> like Digital Art Supplies in San Diego do commercially cut down some 
> rolls to 13 inch, but you'd have to contact them. 
> (http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/)
> 
> Will
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Phill Potter wrote:
> 
> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, will gibson <will@> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Phil,
> >>
> >>I have a R1800 which is also a 13 inch wide machine. My approach is to 
> >>buy 17 inch rolls and cut off sheets 13 inch wide. I don't shoot in the 
> >>2x3 format so my images end up 12.5 wide x 12.5 to 16.25 long depending 
> >>on the image. You do have to cut them ahead of time and flatten them 
> >>out, but it seems efficient and is easy to do with my mat cutter. I put 
> >>the cut sheets in a 13x 19 sleeve and put that under a print box or two 
> >>for a couple of days.
> >>
> >>Will Gibson
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >Will
> >
> >Many of our images are of the 10 to 12 inch by 25 to 40 inch. I presume I could cut 
these 
> >sheets as needed, perhaps a couple of days ahead. 
> >Do they really flatten out after a couple of days? 
> >I've found the Epson Lustre in rolls is very difficult to flatten.
> >Many thanks for the help.
> >
> >Phill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>
Thanks again Will.

IMy plan is to purchase a wide roll of EHM and cut it down to 13 inches.

Phill

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Phill Potter" 
<phillpotter@...> wrote:
>
> Is there such a thing out there? Can one cut (successfully) wider 
rolls for this printer?
>
Have you looked at Hawk Mountain papers? I sent for their swatch book
(free) and found what I was looking for with HM. Check out their 
website. I did a quick check, and they do have some of their papers in 
13" rolls. A lot depends on what kind of surface you're looking for. 
There are a lot of different "matte" papers out there. I was looking 
for a surface that resembled Epson's Semi-Matte 250 which Epson only 
sells in the 17x22 cut sheet and rolls. HM had a exact 
surface/thickness match in cut sheets other than 17x22. A quick print 
check using the Epson profile on HM paper was a spot on match. Just a 
satisfied customer.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Keith R." <kjrslr@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Phill Potter" 
> <phillpotter@> wrote:
> >
> > Is there such a thing out there? Can one cut (successfully) wider 
> rolls for this printer?
> >
> Have you looked at Hawk Mountain papers? I sent for their swatch book
> (free) and found what I was looking for with HM. Check out their 
> website. I did a quick check, and they do have some of their papers in 
> 13" rolls. A lot depends on what kind of surface you're looking for. 
> There are a lot of different "matte" papers out there. I was looking 
> for a surface that resembled Epson's Semi-Matte 250 which Epson only 
> sells in the 17x22 cut sheet and rolls. HM had a exact 
> surface/thickness match in cut sheets other than 17x22. A quick print 
> check using the Epson profile on HM paper was a spot on match. Just a 
> satisfied customer.
>
I will look into that. Not having the time to check out all the many papers available, I tend 
to stick with a slect few and mainly Epson. Enhanced matte is always pleasing, readily 
available, and creates few hassles. As i'm in Canada, it can be a problem (at times) getting 
delivery. Each winter, when I travel to Florida, I have a quantity of inks delivered from Atlex 
to my U.S. address. Their prices are better than what I can get here – even with pro 
discounts.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> , "Phill Potter"
<phillpotter@...> wrote:
>
> Is there such a thing out there? Can one cut (successfully) wider
rolls for this printer?
>

Exim Vaios (http://www.eximvaios.com <http://www.eximvaios.com> ) sells
13" cut rolls of some (but
not all) of the paper they carry. I just took a quick look and saw
Epson Enhanced Matte, Epson Ultrasmooth Fine Art, and Moab Entrada
available in 13" rolls. There may be others if you do a bit of digging,
and it may be that if you contact them they can get you 13" rolls of
some of the other papers.

You should be aware that these rolls are going to be on a 3" core,
which means you can't use the roll adapter that comes with the 2400. So
you'll either have to rig something up yourself, or purchase the roll
feed adapter that Exim Vaios sells:
https://www.eximvaios.com/catalog/product_info.php
<https://www.eximvaios.com/catalog/product_info.php> ?
cPath=452_453&products_id=2097



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Premier Art Hot Press 205 (see
http://www.atlex.com/premier/fine-art-205.htm) is one of my favorite matte
papers, in part because it is OBA-free, does well on my fade tests, and is
cheap.  (I only use smooth surface papers.)

I recently purchased a 24" roll and found good and bad news.  The good news
is that the dmax is higher than my sheets -- 1.65 on my 7500 with Eboni.
The bad news is that the coating is a bit different than the sheets I've
had, so I had to re-profile it.  

The problem seems to be that the new (?) coating does not accept quite as
much volume of the light inks that I have to pour in to get dot-free high
lights on the old, non-variable-dot 7500.  This might affect the older
printers that use the Piezo or FS-Y very light inks.  I doubt newer printers
and inksets would notice any difference.  Once I backed off the lightest ink
a bit, the paper printed very well.  Overall, I prefer the higher dmax of
the new coating.  But, to get a smooth print did require re-profiling.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com