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Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

2006-09-11 by roleiman

Pardon the newbie question but I am a newbie to these products. I 
print primarily color images on an Epson 7800, and almost exclusively 
on Crane Silver Rag which I find to be extraordinary. I have seen the 
occasional post discussing a spray product that is used as final 
treatment. Could someone please explain the purpose of this process. 
Is is simply for protection of the surface, or does it actually 
enhance the image. Which of these products is suitable for the Crane 
Silver Rag paper. Much obliged.

RE: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

2006-09-11 by Paul Roark

I like Premier Art Print Shield for glossy papers, including Crane Silver
Rag - although that paper needs it much less than most of the others.  This
solvent-based spray offers some protection of the image from physical
abrasion as well as UV.  It also significantly reduces bronzing.  The fact
that is has been tested by Wilhelm helps also.

 

One variable in the sprays is the quality of the nozzle.  The PA Print
Shield has among the best.

 

I only use if for glossy papers.  Like most, it reduces the dmax of matte
papers too much.  For matte I use Lascaux Fixativ.

 

Some have tried water-based sprays, but the success with them seems limited
people who have sophisticated spraying equipment.  I gave up on water-based
sprays.  Someday one will work out, and the pressure is on due to the
pollution and danger of the solvent sprays.  However, for now, I stick with
solvent-based spray - with goggles and a respirator.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

 

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[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of roleiman
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:07 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

 

Pardon the newbie question but I am a newbie to these products. I 
print primarily color images on an Epson 7800, and almost exclusively 
on Crane Silver Rag which I find to be extraordinary. I have seen the 
occasional post discussing a spray product that is used as final 
treatment. Could someone please explain the purpose of this process. 
Is is simply for protection of the surface, or does it actually 
enhance the image. Which of these products is suitable for the Crane 
Silver Rag paper. Much obliged.

 



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Re: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

2006-09-11 by roleiman

Paul, thanks for the info. You credit this stuff as a treatment for 
bronzing. With the K3 inks on CSR I have not seen any troubling 
amount of bronzing. Quite a far cry from my early experiences with 
glossy stock on the 2200. So perhaps the principal benefit is 
protection for abrasion and UV. I have a client who wants to buy 
some of my large images and mount them not behind glass, but by some 
process that adheres them to a back board, with no glass on top. 
They will be in a commercial setting. While I find CSR to be 
extremely scratch resistant, I am not crazy about leaving my babies 
unprotected. Would this spray stuff help? Thanks again.
David


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> I like Premier Art Print Shield for glossy papers, including Crane 
Silver
> Rag - although that paper needs it much less than most of the 
others.  This
> solvent-based spray offers some protection of the image from 
physical
> abrasion as well as UV.  It also significantly reduces bronzing.  
The fact
> that is has been tested by Wilhelm helps also.
> 
>  
> 
> One variable in the sprays is the quality of the nozzle.  The PA 
Print
> Shield has among the best.
> 
>  
> 
> I only use if for glossy papers.  Like most, it reduces the dmax 
of matte
> papers too much.  For matte I use Lascaux Fixativ.
> 
>  
> 
> Some have tried water-based sprays, but the success with them 
seems limited
> people who have sophisticated spraying equipment.  I gave up on 
water-based
> sprays.  Someday one will work out, and the pressure is on due to 
the
> pollution and danger of the solvent sprays.  However, for now, I 
stick with
> solvent-based spray - with goggles and a respirator.
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
roleiman
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:07 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag
> 
>  
> 
> Pardon the newbie question but I am a newbie to these products. I 
> print primarily color images on an Epson 7800, and almost 
exclusively 
> on Crane Silver Rag which I find to be extraordinary. I have seen 
the 
> occasional post discussing a spray product that is used as final 
> treatment. Could someone please explain the purpose of this 
process. 
> Is is simply for protection of the surface, or does it actually 
> enhance the image. Which of these products is suitable for the 
Crane
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> Silver Rag paper. Much obliged.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

RE: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

2006-09-11 by Paul Roark

Yes, I think the spray would help protect the prints.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

 

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[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of roleiman
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:46 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

 


Paul, thanks for the info. You credit this stuff as a treatment for 
bronzing. With the K3 inks on CSR I have not seen any troubling 
amount of bronzing. Quite a far cry from my early experiences with 
glossy stock on the 2200. So perhaps the principal benefit is 
protection for abrasion and UV. I have a client who wants to buy 
some of my large images and mount them not behind glass, but by some 
process that adheres them to a back board, with no glass on top. 
They will be in a commercial setting. While I find CSR to be 
extremely scratch resistant, I am not crazy about leaving my babies 
unprotected. Would this spray stuff help? Thanks again.
David

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> I like Premier Art Print Shield for glossy papers, including Crane 
Silver
> Rag - although that paper needs it much less than most of the 
others. This
> solvent-based spray offers some protection of the image from 
physical
> abrasion as well as UV. It also significantly reduces bronzing. 
The fact
> that is has been tested by Wilhelm helps also.
> 
> 
> 
> One variable in the sprays is the quality of the nozzle. The PA 
Print
> Shield has among the best.
> 
> 
> 
> I only use if for glossy papers. Like most, it reduces the dmax 
of matte
> papers too much. For matte I use Lascaux Fixativ.
> 
> 
> 
> Some have tried water-based sprays, but the success with them 
seems limited
> people who have sophisticated spraying equipment. I gave up on 
water-based
> sprays. Someday one will work out, and the pressure is on due to 
the
> pollution and danger of the solvent sprays. However, for now, I 
stick with
> solvent-based spray - with goggles and a respirator.
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/> k.com/>

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
roleiman
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:07 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag
> 
> 
> 
> Pardon the newbie question but I am a newbie to these products. I 
> print primarily color images on an Epson 7800, and almost 
exclusively 
> on Crane Silver Rag which I find to be extraordinary. I have seen 
the 
> occasional post discussing a spray product that is used as final 
> treatment. Could someone please explain the purpose of this 
process. 
> Is is simply for protection of the surface, or does it actually 
> enhance the image. Which of these products is suitable for the 
Crane 
> Silver Rag paper. Much obliged.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 



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RE: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

2006-09-11 by Gary W. Weaver

Hello,

I have a hard time with the sprays. I got some craft store universal "glaze"
that is alright but has a shine.

Can a matt glass overcome this?

I plan to experiment further, but are others using any brush or roll-on
applications??

Thank,
gar
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  From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Paul Roark
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:20 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag


  I like Premier Art Print Shield for glossy papers, including Crane Silver
  Rag - although that paper needs it much less than most of the others. This
  solvent-based spray offers some protection of the image from physical
  abrasion as well as UV. It also significantly reduces bronzing. The fact
  that is has been tested by Wilhelm helps also.

  One variable in the sprays is the quality of the nozzle. The PA Print
  Shield has among the best.

  I only use if for glossy papers. Like most, it reduces the dmax of matte
  papers too much. For matte I use Lascaux Fixativ.

  Some have tried water-based sprays, but the success with them seems
limited
  people who have sophisticated spraying equipment. I gave up on water-based
  sprays. Someday one will work out, and the pressure is on due to the
  pollution and danger of the solvent sprays. However, for now, I stick with
  solvent-based spray - with goggles and a respirator.

  Paul

  www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>

  _____

  From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
roleiman
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:07 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

  Pardon the newbie question but I am a newbie to these products. I
  print primarily color images on an Epson 7800, and almost exclusively
  on Crane Silver Rag which I find to be extraordinary. I have seen the
  occasional post discussing a spray product that is used as final
  treatment. Could someone please explain the purpose of this process.
  Is is simply for protection of the surface, or does it actually
  enhance the image. Which of these products is suitable for the Crane
  Silver Rag paper. Much obliged.

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



  


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RE: [Digital BW] Spray finish for Crane Silver Rag

2006-09-12 by Paul Roark

>I have a hard time with the sprays. I got some 
> craft store universal "glaze" that is alright but has a shine.

>Can a matt glass overcome this?

Many of the mat sprays lower the dmax even on glossy paper.  

I tried a beta version of one that had a nice luster finish, but it yellowed
in a fade test.  Yellowing has been an historic problem with these types of
things.  So, for good photos, I'd stick to the products that have been used
for years or tested.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

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