Digital BW, The Print

or the epson driver will bypass the ICC when ABW is used? 

I know the question is basic, but couldn't find an answer in the
archives. 

I tried using an icc (provided by the paper company) with ABW, and
didn't like the results.  Before investing paper, ink, time and energy
in testing, I decided to ask. 

Thanks for your time and for sharing your knowledge!

Manuel

Manuel Toledo Quinones wrote:
> or the epson driver will bypass the ICC when ABW is used? 
> 
> I know the question is basic, but couldn't find an answer in the
> archives. 
> 
> I tried using an icc (provided by the paper company) with ABW, and
> didn't like the results.  Before investing paper, ink, time and energy
> in testing, I decided to ask. 
> 
> Thanks for your time and for sharing your knowledge!
> 
> Manuel 

No ICC to my knowledge. The paper settings should have their 
influence though. And you can use a created QTR semi-ICC 
profile in a P2P conversion in PS to get the right perceptual 
tone + soft proofing.


Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst


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Thanks!

I imagine that the advantage of using a QTR-created icc is the
soft-proofing, since (I think) you can achieve similar results with a
PS curve. Right?

Manuel 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
<E.Dinkla@...> wrote:

>
> Manuel Toledo Quinones wrote:
> > or the epson driver will bypass the ICC when ABW is used? 
> > 
> > I know the question is basic, but couldn't find an answer in the
> > archives. 
> > 
> > I tried using an icc (provided by the paper company) with ABW, and
> > didn't like the results.  Before investing paper, ink, time and energy
> > in testing, I decided to ask. 
> > 
> > Thanks for your time and for sharing your knowledge!
> > 
> > Manuel 
> 
> No ICC to my knowledge. The paper settings should have their 
> influence though. And you can use a created QTR semi-ICC 
> profile in a P2P conversion in PS to get the right perceptual 
> tone + soft proofing.
> 
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst
> 
> 
> |  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
> |     www.pigment-print.com    |
> |             ( unvollendet )            |
>

Manuel Toledo Quinones wrote:
> Thanks!
> 
> I imagine that the advantage of using a QTR-created icc is the
> soft-proofing, since (I think) you can achieve similar results with a
> PS curve. Right?
> 
> Manuel 


Correct, if your eyes have the same perceptual standard the 
QTR profile is based on there shouldn't be a difference.


Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst


|  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
|     www.pigment-print.com    |
|             ( unvollendet )            |

I use profiles with Adv B&W all the time and would not use it without it.  I
suspect that if you pass a profile to the Adv B&W driver and ask in PS for
the printer to do the colour management then the profile is discarded.  But
you can always do a conversion (on the fly or otherwise) in PS before the
file gets to the driver.  QTR Create ICC does more than produce a soft
proof.  It profiles the luminance output of a set of Adv B&W settings and
allows you to manage the conversion from whatever space you keep your files
in to that ³print space² with ease.  The improvement in quality is very
real.  The added benefit is that you also get full colour soft-proofing of
the output.  

From: Manuel Toledo Quinones <mtoledo@...>
Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:37:52 -0000
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Do ICC's work together with  ABW?

 
 
 

Thanks!

I imagine that the advantage of using a QTR-created icc is the
soft-proofing, since (I think) you can achieve similar results with a
PS curve. Right?

Manuel 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , Ernst Dinkla
<E.Dinkla@...> wrote:
>
> Manuel Toledo Quinones wrote:
> > or the epson driver will bypass the ICC when ABW is used?
> > 
> > I know the question is basic, but couldn't find an answer in the
> > archives. 
> > 
> > I tried using an icc (provided by the paper company) with ABW, and
> > didn't like the results.  Before investing paper, ink, time and energy
> > in testing, I decided to ask.
> > 
> > Thanks for your time and for sharing your knowledge!
> > 
> > Manuel 
> 
> No ICC to my knowledge. The paper settings should have their
> influence though. And you can use a created QTR semi-ICC
> profile in a P2P conversion in PS to get the right perceptual
> tone + soft proofing.
> 
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,Ernst
> 
> 
> |  Dinkla Grafische Techniek  |
> |     www.pigment-print.com    |
> |             ( unvollendet )            |
>

 
    



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