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RE: methods of generating a sepia

RE: methods of generating a sepia

2007-01-21 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 1/21/07 12:09:33 PM, e.neilsen2@... writes:


> I
> didn't even look at the sepia setting in Print Fix. Why? I am pig headed.
> Really, almost all the preset sepia settings stink for what I want.
> 
But you've dismissed the sepia preset I built without even trying it. 
Actually, having seen your work, I think you might like the tone of the PFP2 sepia 
setting, though its not as saturated as your own prints. But it would be 
possible to take the default sepia setting, build a profile from it, softproof it 
using the B&W test image in the PrintFIX PRO 2 Print Preview tools, move back to 
the adjustment screen, increase and otherwise adjust the slider adjustments, 
softproof again, and within a couple of minutes, without even printing 
anything, be most of the way to getting a sepia to your personal taste. A hard proof 
print or two right out of PrintFIX PRO would finalize your choices. Don't knock 
it until you've tried it, its a very fast and powerful way to tone images. 
And if you'd prefer to tint in Photoshop, with real time feedback, you can do 
that instead, and import that RGB curveset to PFP to apply to your images.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com



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RE: [Digital BW] RE: methods of generating a sepia

2007-01-21 by Eric Neilsen Photo

David, I didn't knock it. I said I am pig headed. I know that I can edit it.
It's true that I haven't tried it and I might be surprised. I just haven't
had time to play with it. I did however play with some blue/selenium tonal
settings. Why play with it and not sepia? I have sepia where I am happy but
I don't have a gold toned selenium print combination or one that comes close
to getting a Chrysotype with selenium toning. 

 

 

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214-827-8301

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

 

Skype : ejprinter

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In a message dated 1/21/07 12:09:33 PM, e.neilsen2@worldnet
<mailto:e.neilsen2%40worldnet.att.net> .att.net writes:

> I
> didn't even look at the sepia setting in Print Fix. Why? I am pig headed.
> Really, almost all the preset sepia settings stink for what I want.
> 
But you've dismissed the sepia preset I built without even trying it. 
Actually, having seen your work, I think you might like the tone of the PFP2
sepia 
setting, though its not as saturated as your own prints. But it would be 
possible to take the default sepia setting, build a profile from it,
softproof it 
using the B&W test image in the PrintFIX PRO 2 Print Preview tools, move
back to 
the adjustment screen, increase and otherwise adjust the slider adjustments,

softproof again, and within a couple of minutes, without even printing 
anything, be most of the way to getting a sepia to your personal taste. A
hard proof 
print or two right out of PrintFIX PRO would finalize your choices. Don't
knock 
it until you've tried it, its a very fast and powerful way to tone images. 
And if you'd prefer to tint in Photoshop, with real time feedback, you can
do 
that instead, and import that RGB curveset to PFP to apply to your images.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@colorvision <mailto:CDTobie%40colorvision.com> .com
www.colorvision.com

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Re: [Digital BW] RE: methods of generating a sepia

2007-01-22 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 1/21/07 12:48:25 PM, e.neilsen2@... writes:


> David, I didn't knock it. I said I am pig headed. I know that I can edit 
> it.
> It's true that I haven't tried it and I might be surprised. I just haven't
> had time to play with it. I did however play with some blue/selenium tonal
> settings. Why play with it and not sepia? I have sepia where I am happy but
> I don't have a gold toned selenium print combination or one that comes close
> to getting a Chrysotype with selenium toning.
> 
> Theres a certain logic to that. I find cool tinting to be more challenging 
than sepia tinting. Its more difficult to find settings that offer a pleasing 
cool tone, and to get the right blend of enough cool in the darker areas, 
without it getting too blue in the highlight areas. I'm sure some experimentation 
could improve on the cool tones that shipped as defaults in PrintFIX PRO 2.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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RE: [Digital BW] RE: methods of generating a sepia

2007-01-22 by Eric Neilsen

David, Have you ever seen a chrysotype print that was selenium toned? 

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street

Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

http://e.neilsen.home.att.net

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

Skype ejprinter

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In a message dated 1/21/07 12:48:25 PM, e.neilsen2@worldnet
<mailto:e.neilsen2%40worldnet.att.net> .att.net writes:

> David, I didn't knock it. I said I am pig headed. I know that I can edit 
> it.
> It's true that I haven't tried it and I might be surprised. I just haven't
> had time to play with it. I did however play with some blue/selenium tonal
> settings. Why play with it and not sepia? I have sepia where I am happy
but
> I don't have a gold toned selenium print combination or one that comes
close
> to getting a Chrysotype with selenium toning.
> 
> Theres a certain logic to that. I find cool tinting to be more challenging

than sepia tinting. Its more difficult to find settings that offer a
pleasing 
cool tone, and to get the right blend of enough cool in the darker areas, 
without it getting too blue in the highlight areas. I'm sure some
experimentation 
could improve on the cool tones that shipped as defaults in PrintFIX PRO 2.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@colorvision <mailto:CDTobie%40colorvision.com> .com
www.colorvision.com

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Re: [Digital BW] RE: methods of generating a sepia

2007-01-22 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 1/22/07 10:23:08 AM, e.neilsen2@... writes:


> David, Have you ever seen a chrysotype print that was selenium toned?
> 

Not outside a museum, and they frown on my taking Lab measurements of the 
tonalities in there... <G>

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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RE: [Digital BW] RE: methods of generating a sepia

2007-01-22 by Eric Neilsen

Very curious, What museum had a selenium toned chrysotype? 

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street

Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

http://e.neilsen.home.att.net

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

Skype ejprinter

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In a message dated 1/22/07 10:23:08 AM, e.neilsen2@worldnet
<mailto:e.neilsen2%40worldnet.att.net> .att.net writes:

> David, Have you ever seen a chrysotype print that was selenium toned?
> 

Not outside a museum, and they frown on my taking Lab measurements of the 
tonalities in there... <G>

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@colorvision <mailto:CDTobie%40colorvision.com> .com
www.colorvision.com

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Re: [Digital BW] RE: methods of generating a sepia

2007-01-22 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 1/22/07 12:04:16 PM, e.neilsen2@... writes:


> Very curious, What museum had a selenium toned chrysotype?
> 

It was you that pulled that one out of the hat... are we playing trick 
question now?

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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RE: methods of generating a sepia

2007-01-23 by Derek Hamlet

>Try this, it works for me.

http://thepluginsite.com/products/photowiz/photofreebies/index.htm


;-)Derek

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