Digital BW, The Print

Has anyone here used Glamour 2 water based varnish to seal and/or enhance a textured fine 
art cotton paper print?
Which were the issues?

Thanks in advance

Ed

edymagno wrote:
> 
> 
> Has anyone here used Glamour 2 water based varnish to seal and/or 
> enhance a textured fine
> art cotton paper print?
> Which were the issues?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Ed
> 

Yes, I use it on German Etching, Moab Entrada, and Photo Rag. Same 
issues as on canvas but more so. Paper tends to streak a bit more than 
canvas.

I use two coats of the Glamour and a final coat of DCP's "Giclee" 
Varnish--just happen to like the way it looks.

Patrick Carr
-- 
Carr Imaging
patcarr@...

Thanks Patrick.
What exactly do you mean with streaks and what do you sually do to avoid them?

Any other issues?  Have you used it on B&W?
Thanks again

Ed



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Carr <patcarr@...> wrote:

> 
> Yes, I use it on German Etching, Moab Entrada, and Photo Rag. Same 
> issues as on canvas but more so. Paper tends to streak a bit more than 
> canvas.
> 
> I use two coats of the Glamour and a final coat of DCP's "Giclee" 
> Varnish--just happen to like the way it looks.
> 
> Patrick Carr
> -- 
> Carr Imaging
> patcarr@...
>

edymagno wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Patrick.
> What exactly do you mean with streaks and what do you sually do to avoid 
> them?
> 
> Any other issues? Have you used it on B&W?
> Thanks again
> 
> Ed
> 

Ed;
When varnish is applied with a roller the edges of the roller can cause 
a line of varnish to form, resulting in a streak. This can be avoided by 
spraying but this introduces other issues I don't care to deal with.

I start by pouring a line of varnish (in an unprinted area) across the 
top of the piece. The amount is determined by practice--just something 
you'll have to play with.

Roll out a fairly heavy coat--from the "line" you poured--with moderate 
pressure, and then back over the image 2 or 3 more times--each time with 
less pressure. Most streaking should be gone, and what isn't will flow 
away as the varnish levels. Again this takes practice.

Use a dense foam roller, 4 to 6 inches long. Work quickly, it doesn't 
take long for the varnish to become tacky.

Yes, I've done this on a few B&W images. Glamour is one of the clearest 
varnishes I've used, however there is still a VERY slight 
yellowing--hard to describe but easy to test yourself.

Hope this helps.

Patrick Carr



-- 
Carr Imaging
patcarr@...

Patrick:

Thanks a bunch. this really helps.

Do you find this yellowing objectionable?
Or just an observation? 

Let's say, I do ten 24X30" b&w prints, varnish them and then exhibited under gallery light.
Do you think that a sharp eye would tell that they are yellow-down because of some 
varnish?
I know this is far too subjective, but please try your best.
Thanks so much in advance

Ed

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Carr <patcarr@...> wrote:

>
> edymagno wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks Patrick.
> > What exactly do you mean with streaks and what do you sually do to avoid 
> > them?
> > 
> > Any other issues? Have you used it on B&W?
> > Thanks again
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> 
> Ed;
> When varnish is applied with a roller the edges of the roller can cause 
> a line of varnish to form, resulting in a streak. This can be avoided by 
> spraying but this introduces other issues I don't care to deal with.
> 
> I start by pouring a line of varnish (in an unprinted area) across the 
> top of the piece. The amount is determined by practice--just something 
> you'll have to play with.
> 
> Roll out a fairly heavy coat--from the "line" you poured--with moderate 
> pressure, and then back over the image 2 or 3 more times--each time with 
> less pressure. Most streaking should be gone, and what isn't will flow 
> away as the varnish levels. Again this takes practice.
> 
> Use a dense foam roller, 4 to 6 inches long. Work quickly, it doesn't 
> take long for the varnish to become tacky.
> 
> Yes, I've done this on a few B&W images. Glamour is one of the clearest 
> varnishes I've used, however there is still a VERY slight 
> yellowing--hard to describe but easy to test yourself.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Patrick Carr
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Carr Imaging
> patcarr@...
>

edymagno wrote:
> 
> 
> Patrick:
> 
> Thanks a bunch. this really helps.
> 
> Do you find this yellowing objectionable?
> Or just an observation?
> 
> Let's say, I do ten 24X30" b&w prints, varnish them and then exhibited 
> under gallery light.
> Do you think that a sharp eye would tell that they are yellow-down 
> because of some
> varnish?
> I know this is far too subjective, but please try your best.
> Thanks so much in advance
> 
> Ed
> 


Ed;

No I don't find yellowing with the Glamour to be much of an issue. But, 
as you can tell with some of the other responses, it will come down to 
personal taste. It is possible to do this streak-free, I do it nearly 
every day--but it's not easy. It takes a lot of practice.

As to the comment about not understanding why
anyone would use these brush-on coatings on fine art papers--well, not 
really sure how to answer that, other than there being a variety of 
artistic methods and techniques non of which will appeal to everyone. I 
think that's what makes what we do better than TV--a medium designed for 
a large audience but known for its mediocre content.

Patrick Carr
-- 
Carr Imaging
patcarr@...

Yellowing should bother everyone....to get an even coat use a high end HVLP gun ....something from the automotive paint application group.

Patrick Carr <patcarr@...> wrote:          edymagno wrote:
> 
> 
> Patrick:
> 
> Thanks a bunch. this really helps.
> 
> Do you find this yellowing objectionable?
> Or just an observation?
> 
> Let's say, I do ten 24X30" b&w prints, varnish them and then exhibited 
> under gallery light.
> Do you think that a sharp eye would tell that they are yellow-down 
> because of some
> varnish?
> I know this is far too subjective, but please try your best.
> Thanks so much in advance
> 
> Ed
> 

Ed;

No I don't find yellowing with the Glamour to be much of an issue. But, 
as you can tell with some of the other responses, it will come down to 
personal taste. It is possible to do this streak-free, I do it nearly 
every day--but it's not easy. It takes a lot of practice.

As to the comment about not understanding why
anyone would use these brush-on coatings on fine art papers--well, not 
really sure how to answer that, other than there being a variety of 
artistic methods and techniques non of which will appeal to everyone. I 
think that's what makes what we do better than TV--a medium designed for 
a large audience but known for its mediocre content.

Patrick Carr
-- 
Carr Imaging
patcarr@...


                         

       
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