Re: [Digital BW] Re: potential fading Epson dye/1280/Generations/MIS
2002-02-01 by Jerry Olson
I'm not sure how to post this antonis. I'm not even sure I'm on the group. I've never seen such a runaround. Why should you have to do more than click Join, and thats it? They ask you for stuff I don't even know what they're talking about.
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> Jerry, > > perhaps you could post this on the new archival color list at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archivalcolor > > If anything, it would be more even more relevant there than this bw list. > > Antonis > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > JF- > > > > When I first got my 1280, it came with epson's newly formulated ink > > (dye). I used the ink to make many colorful art prints, and a few test > > prints that I put in a South Window that gets sunlight all day. After a > > month, there was no noticeable fading at all compared to a dark storage > > print of the same image. The image was full of brilliantly colored > > objects on a blue and cyan background... Absolutely no difference in the > > two prints. We have never had any orange shift problems in North Dakota > > that I'm aware of. I would think that under glass in a low light > > environment the colors wouldn't fade for many years. I've tried the same > > print with Generations and MIS inks for 3 months in a sunny south > > window, with no fading. The Epson Archival Matte paper on which these > > prints were made did turn a slightly buff color in the areas that had no > > image on them, but the colors themselves didn't change. > > > > This is an extreme test, as nobody is going to display any work of art > > in bright sunlight, I hope! > > > > If a print can withstand 3 months in the sun with little or no fading, > > That inkset is good enough for me. It's probably as good as we're going > > to get now. I'm sure it will get better in the future. > > > > I'm about to order a set of Generations 5 inks and a new 1280 printer, > > and I don't think I'll even be concerned about print longevity again. > > I've gone though as many tests as I plan on going through, and now I'm > > just going to print. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > . After printing several > > > beautiful 8x10s from an Epson 880, with the original Epson cartridge, > > > in color, and leaving them out on a lawn chair in the sun for 10 > > > days, day and night, I see zero fading or degradation of any kind. > > > None. 'Even one unexpected rainstorm failed to deteriorate the prints. > > > > > Have I missed a point regarding potential fading here ? > > > > No the new epson inks are much better than the previous ones. You should > > see what prints from the first epsons look like. Totally worthless, even > > those in dark storage! > > > > I really do doubt that any dye inks are going to last anywhere near as > > long as the Generations 5 inks or the MIS archival pigment inks though. > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/