Digital BW, The Print

"While I prefer a non-OBA paper with the R1800 3-MK approach, the printing 
characteristics of the Eboni-6 inkset are such that I prefer a somewhat brightened paper 
for "neutral" printing here."

Paul... I know you are a big fan of Premier Art's non OBA paper, and I like it quite a lot as 
well. But I am still stuck on HPR, as my high contrast images tend to really pop on it. 

I'm really excited to try your Eboni-6 inkset with my 2200, as it would mean I don't have to 
purchase an R1800 (which sounded as close to b/w printing panacea for me as I've seen 
yet). In reference to the above quote from your PDF, would you say that HPR might turn 
out to be a better choice with this approach/printer?

Thank you!
Sarah

...in the R1800 3MK approach, I'm assuming much more of the paper shows through?

Sarah



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah Renkes" <sagaface@...> 
wrote:
>
> "While I prefer a non-OBA paper with the R1800 3-MK approach, the printing 
> characteristics of the Eboni-6 inkset are such that I prefer a somewhat brightened paper 
> for "neutral" printing here."
> 
> Paul... I know you are a big fan of Premier Art's non OBA paper, and I like it quite a lot as 
> well. But I am still stuck on HPR, as my high contrast images tend to really pop on it. 
> 
> I'm really excited to try your Eboni-6 inkset with my 2200, as it would mean I don't have 
to 

> purchase an R1800 (which sounded as close to b/w printing panacea for me as I've seen 
> yet). In reference to the above quote from your PDF, would you say that HPR might turn 
> out to be a better choice with this approach/printer?
> 
> Thank you!
> Sarah
>

Hi Sarah,

>> "While I prefer a non-OBA paper with the R1800 3-MK approach, 
>> the printing characteristics of the Eboni-6 inkset are such 
>> that I prefer a somewhat brightened paper for "neutral" 
>> printing here."

>Paul... I know you are a big fan of Premier Art's non OBA paper, 
>and I like it quite a lot as well. But I am still stuck on HPR, 
>as my high contrast images tend to really pop on it.

HPR combines a very good dmax with a brightened coating.  Both of these tend
to give an image more "pop."

The PA Smooth BW has more brighteners, but not over the top.  (Different
batches are in the Lab B = -1 to -2.)  The dmax of the PA papers varies,
with the 205 usually mid to low 1.60s and the thicker 325 at the high end of
the 1.60s -- which is very good.  The BW versions are showing the same
range.  I have not had enough experience with different batches to know what
printer will result in what average dmax for these papers.

>I'm really excited to try your Eboni-6 inkset with my 2200, 
>as it would mean I don't have to purchase an R1800 (which 
>sounded as close to b/w printing panacea for me as I've 
>seen yet).

We'll have to see what the 2200 cartridge situation turns into.  A week ago
MIS was out of 2200 carts.  They may be available again, however.

>In reference to the above quote from your PDF, would you say 
>that HPR might turn out to be a better choice with this 
>approach/printer?

HPR is warmer than I like for most of my landscape shots, but it's beautiful
for where I like a warmer image.  I have so much Permajet Alpha, however,
that I use that paper.  They're about the same.  Compare the tone graphs of
Alpha and HPR on pages 5 & 6 of http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf


Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Thanks, Paul. I'm going to look into the Permajet paper. And cross my fingers about the 
carts.    ~sigh~    Just when it all gets exciting......


Sarah


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
wrote:

>
> 
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> >> "While I prefer a non-OBA paper with the R1800 3-MK approach, 
> >> the printing characteristics of the Eboni-6 inkset are such 
> >> that I prefer a somewhat brightened paper for "neutral" 
> >> printing here."
> 
> >Paul... I know you are a big fan of Premier Art's non OBA paper, 
> >and I like it quite a lot as well. But I am still stuck on HPR, 
> >as my high contrast images tend to really pop on it.
> 
> HPR combines a very good dmax with a brightened coating.  Both of these tend
> to give an image more "pop."
> 
> The PA Smooth BW has more brighteners, but not over the top.  (Different
> batches are in the Lab B = -1 to -2.)  The dmax of the PA papers varies,
> with the 205 usually mid to low 1.60s and the thicker 325 at the high end of
> the 1.60s -- which is very good.  The BW versions are showing the same
> range.  I have not had enough experience with different batches to know what
> printer will result in what average dmax for these papers.
> 
> >I'm really excited to try your Eboni-6 inkset with my 2200, 
> >as it would mean I don't have to purchase an R1800 (which 
> >sounded as close to b/w printing panacea for me as I've 
> >seen yet).
> 
> We'll have to see what the 2200 cartridge situation turns into.  A week ago
> MIS was out of 2200 carts.  They may be available again, however.
> 
> >In reference to the above quote from your PDF, would you say 
> >that HPR might turn out to be a better choice with this 
> >approach/printer?
> 
> HPR is warmer than I like for most of my landscape shots, but it's beautiful
> for where I like a warmer image.  I have so much Permajet Alpha, however,
> that I use that paper.  They're about the same.  Compare the tone graphs of
> Alpha and HPR on pages 5 & 6 of http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf
> 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>