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2008-02-05 by Paul Whiting
Hello... my printer should arrive tomorrow. Am wondering it there are some recommended test procedures to make sure I've got a good printer - other than just running a test print, I mean. Are there perhaps more demanding tests I could run, just to make sure all is well? Thanks!
2008-02-06 by CorrPro96@aol.com
Yes, there are. Richard (Brooklyn) In a message dated 2/5/2008 5:20:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, paulmwhiting@... writes: Hello... my printer should arrive tomorrow. Am wondering it there are some recommended test procedures to make sure I've got a good printer - other than just running a test print, I mean. Are there perhaps more demanding tests I could run, just to make sure all is well? Thanks! **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2008-02-06 by gerard thomas
"Yes, there are."..great wonderful...
Anyone else...wouldn't mind answer to the original question myself??
Mike
CorrPro96@... wrote:
Yes, there are.
Richard (Brooklyn)
In a message dated 2/5/2008 5:20:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
paulmwhiting@... writes:
Hello... my printer should arrive tomorrow. Am wondering it there are
some recommended test procedures to make sure I've got a good printer
- other than just running a test print, I mean. Are there perhaps more
demanding tests I could run, just to make sure all is well? Thanks!
**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.
(http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025
48)
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2008-02-06 by Harold Jackson
Ditto -- Obviously the question also implied "and if there are, what are they?" No one would just want to know if there were tests without knowing what the tests are! To just say "Yes there are" is not at all helpful, in my humble opinion. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2008-02-06 by Gary Weaver
I would start with all the ESC codes. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 2/5/08 at 5:07 PM Harold Jackson wrote: >Ditto -- Obviously the question also implied "and if there are, what are >they?" No one would just want to know if there were tests without knowing >what the tests are! To just say "Yes there are" is not at all helpful, in >my humble opinion. > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as >they are often being updated. > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to >unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same >page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep >them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. >Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the >membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W >printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from >the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and >guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner >and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the Files >section: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� AND >�MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO >YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR >EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF >PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE >�OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN >ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE >OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) >UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) >STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2008-02-06 by Paul Whiting
Thanks, Gary, Perhaps those ESC codes will be in the manual... but if they're not, I'd like to get back to you later to see what that means. Your suggestion stirs some dim memories from my DOS days, when my Epson was a barebones dot matrix printer... wow, remember those? I'm trying to recall what that meant... seems ESC codes gave you italics, bold, subscript, superscript, whatever. And you had to place an ESC 27 code or some such to provide the entryway to these others. I'm really scratching the bottom of my memory barrel here! If you'd care to give me a preview, I'd sure appreciate it, in case these aren't in the manual. Regard, Paul -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" <garww@...> wrote: > > I would start with all the ESC codes.
2008-02-06 by Gary Weaver
Hi Paul, That's about as low-level as we can get. But what really bugs people are marks on the paper (roller marks) and not getting margins right. gar *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 2/6/08 at 2:01 AM Paul Whiting wrote: >Thanks, Gary, > >Perhaps those ESC codes will be in the manual... but if they're not, >I'd like to get back to you later to see what that means. Your >suggestion stirs some dim memories from my DOS days, when my Epson was >a barebones dot matrix printer... wow, remember those? I'm trying to >recall what that meant... seems ESC codes gave you italics, bold, >subscript, superscript, whatever. And you had to place an ESC 27 code >or some such to provide the entryway to these others. > >I'm really scratching the bottom of my memory barrel here! If you'd >care to give me a preview, I'd sure appreciate it, in case these >aren't in the manual. > >Regard, > >Paul > >-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" ><garww@...> wrote: >> >> I would start with all the ESC codes. > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as >they are often being updated. > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to >unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same >page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep >them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. >Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the >membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W >printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from >the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and >guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner >and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files >section: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND >MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO >YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR >EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF >PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE >OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN >ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE >OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) >UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) >STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2008-02-06 by Frank Jay
OOPS...Not being a techie I tested it by printing the prints I use for test prints that I made with PS....swatches of colors, three different skin tones (caucasian, african american, asian). Then chnaged out the inks to the 3mK's I printed the 100 step gray scale image from the website, then the black and white target file. Using the QTR for BW. I also printed 3 full color prints. I then printed color using the above prints but without the GO and PK.
I compared all the color prints to my original test prints printed as a Cprint from a lab.
Then used a magnifying glass to check for marks, scratches, pizza wheels etc. I also used the magnifier to read the 100 step chart and found that blocks 99 and 100 were indistinguishable to my eye. I also used the same paper for all the tests...Epson Enhanced Matte. I also compared the prints using a 1000W daylight bulb. I had one only beacuse I teach a hydroponics course and that is the light we use.
I did notice that when I used it the first few color prints there was a 1/4" round drop of "glop" about a 1/2" from the end of the 8x10 print.
This of course is not a high tech method using meters and such but all the comparisons to Cprints for color matching came out fine and the BW work, to me, was excellent. Best I have seen from an inkjet and I am happy not to have to set up a wet darkroom again. The asian skin (my wife's) came out a bit too yellow, but skin tone is very hard to duplicate exactly. If I were printing portraits I would run some test 4x6's and tweak a bit.
I hope this helps somewhat
Frank
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2008-02-07 by Paul Whiting
Frank, "Not being a techie", he said! Wow... that's pretty thorough, in my book, more than enough to keep me off the streets and down to work. I doubt that I'll be able to run all those tests (I'll be using it mainly for b/w, using Paul Roark's method) and as for color, just snapshots for now. But thank you very much, that's exactly what I was looking for. Much appreciated! Paul --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Frank Jay <frankjay02@...> wrote: > > OOPS...Not being a techie I tested it by printing the prints I use for test prints that I made with PS....swatches of colors, three different skin tones (caucasian, african american, asian). Then chnaged out the inks to the 3mK's I printed the 100 step gray scale image from the website, then the black and white target file. Using the QTR for BW. I also printed 3 full color prints. I then printed color using the above prints but without the GO and PK. > > I compared all the color prints to my original test prints printed as a Cprint from a lab. > Then used a magnifying glass to check for marks, scratches, pizza wheels etc. I also used the magnifier to read the 100 step chart and found that blocks 99 and 100 were indistinguishable to my eye. I also used the same paper for all the tests...Epson Enhanced Matte. I also compared the prints using a 1000W daylight bulb. I had one only beacuse I teach a hydroponics course and that is the light we use. > > I did notice that when I used it the first few color prints there was a 1/4" round drop of "glop" about a 1/2" from the end of the 8x10 print. > > This of course is not a high tech method using meters and such but all the comparisons to Cprints for color matching came out fine and the BW work, to me, was excellent. Best I have seen from an inkjet and I am happy not to have to set up a wet darkroom again. The asian skin (my wife's) came out a bit too yellow, but skin tone is very hard to duplicate exactly. If I were printing portraits I would run some test 4x6's and tweak a bit. > > I hope this helps somewhat > Frank > > > > > "The luckiest dogs are those with clipped tails....they're the ones who won't be chasing their own arses." > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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