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2002-02-04 by Jerry Olson

Austin,  remember this was the very first version of the Piezo software.
Many people complained of the screen pattern, and only a few complained
about the striping. It could have been so many things, the model of the
computer, settings, etc., but they did fix the problem, so I assume it
was a bug. Sure wasted a lot of paper though!

I'm on a Mac, of course :).

You are very lucky to have a 3000 printer that works perfectly. I sure
wish mine had. I had 2 different 3000 printers, and 1 was sent in to
epson for repair 2 times, and the other 3 times. 

Wonder if they will EVER update that printer?

Jerry
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> > The bugs I am talking about specifically are the Horizontal stripes,
> > (This is NOT banding), this was stripes that were printed. NO IMAGE
> > appeared on the paper, ONLY the stripes.
> 
> Ah, I never saw or even heard of that one!
> 
> > The other was the screen door
> > pattern which ruined hundreds of prints. These things appeared at
> > random. I never knew if I was going to get a perfect piezo print or a
> > paper full of horizontal lines (Thick and Thin, from 1/8th of an inch to
> > 2 inches across), or the screen door pattern. The screen door pattern
> > sometimes showed up only in light areas like a sky, and sometimes in
> > only small parts of the print, and sometimes over the whole print.
> > Sometimes they were barely visible and sometimes you could see them from
> > 2 feet away.
> 
> Hum.  I don't recall ever hearing about the thick banding issue...but I did
> hear about the screen door issue.  I've been using 1160s and 3000s since
> Piezo came out, and never ran into either of these issues.
> 
> > These must have been bugs, because they were fixed in
> > updates of the software.
> 
> Could very well be.  Were you on a Mac or a PC?  I'm on a PC.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Austin
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RE: [Digital BW] bugs and such

2002-02-04 by Austin Franklin

Hi Jerry,

> Austin,  remember this was the very first version of the Piezo software.
> Many people complained of the screen pattern,

Yes, I do remember that...

> and only a few complained
> about the striping.

I just don't remember anything about that though...but obviously, if you had
a problem with it, it was a problem for you ;-)

> It could have been so many things, the model of the
> computer, settings, etc., but they did fix the problem, so I assume it
> was a bug. Sure wasted a lot of paper though!

I'm sure.

> I'm on a Mac, of course :).

Well...if you had been on a PC, you wouldn't have had that problem ;-)

> You are very lucky to have a 3000 printer that works perfectly. I sure
> wish mine had. I had 2 different 3000 printers, and 1 was sent in to
> epson for repair 2 times, and the other 3 times.

I was NOT lucky, Jerry.  I, in fact, brought my printer in TWICE to be
aligned, and both times, I still had banding.  I ended up writing my own
3000 alignment utility (I am sorry, it is NOT available, as it is not easy
to use, and it would take hours to explain how to use it), and got my
printer aligned perfectly my self.  As I said, luck had not a thing to do
with it.

Regards,

Austin

RE: [Digital BW] bugs and such

2002-02-04 by meander@mail.dk

>  I ended up writing my own
>3000 alignment utility (I am sorry, it is NOT available, as it is not easy
>to use, and it would take hours to explain how to use it), and got my
printer aligned perfectly my self.

Have you considered producing the instructions in PDF and charging $5 
for the download? Presumably with some hacking we could adapt it for 
other printers.

Jerry.

Re: [Digital BW] bugs and such

2002-02-04 by Jerry Olson

Good God, you wrote your own alignment utility! No wonder you never have
problems :)

The only thing harder would be understanding color management.
Or perhaps piloting a space shuttle. No, I could probably do that. I'll
never understand color management.

Jerry
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> I was NOT lucky, Jerry.  I, in fact, brought my printer in TWICE to be
> aligned, and both times, I still had banding.  I ended up writing my own
> 3000 alignment utility (I am sorry, it is NOT available, as it is not easy
> to use, and it would take hours to explain how to use it), and got my
> printer aligned perfectly my self.  As I said, luck had not a thing to do
> with it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Austin
> 
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RE: [Digital BW] bugs and such

2002-02-05 by Austin Franklin

> >  I ended up writing my own
> >3000 alignment utility (I am sorry, it is NOT available, as it
> is not easy
> >to use, and it would take hours to explain how to use it), and got my
> printer aligned perfectly my self.
>
> Have you considered producing the instructions in PDF and charging $5
> for the download? Presumably with some hacking we could adapt it for
> other printers.
>
> Jerry.

I have considered just about anything, but unfortunately I do not have the
time.

Regards,

Austin

RE: [Digital BW] bugs and such

2002-02-05 by Austin Franklin

Hi Jerry,

> Good God, you wrote your own alignment utility! No wonder you never have
> problems :)

Yeah, and I design scanners too!

> The only thing harder would be understanding color management.
> Or perhaps piloting a space shuttle. No, I could probably do that. I'll
> never understand color management.

I avoid the entire color management issue by only doing B&W ;-)

Regards,

Austin

RE: [Digital BW] bugs and such

2002-02-05 by Austin Franklin

> Austin,
> 
> Do your scanner designs impart virtual grain of megapixel 
> proportions?  ;-)
> 
> Mike

I don't know, but they worked damn well!

;-)

Re: [Digital BW] bugs and such

2002-02-05 by Michael Kravit

Austin,

Do your scanner designs impart virtual grain of megapixel proportions?  ;-)

Mike
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Austin Franklin 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:05 PM
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] bugs and such


  Hi Jerry,

  > Good God, you wrote your own alignment utility! No wonder you never have
  > problems :)

  Yeah, and I design scanners too!

  > The only thing harder would be understanding color management.
  > Or perhaps piloting a space shuttle. No, I could probably do that. I'll
  > never understand color management.

  I avoid the entire color management issue by only doing B&W ;-)

  Regards,

  Austin


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