Digital BW, The Print

millerhillsteve wrote:

>  Ok folks, I think that's enough already. I would say that if you take a
> picture and
> convert it to Black and White and you like it...that's where the rubber hits
> the
> road. How it got there is unimportant unless your whole notion about making
> images is about equipment and process rather than the image itself.
>
> Steve

How can you say that?   If it's only about the final image, this group would
only discuss aesthetics and not technique.

I for one, am very anti-equipment, it is about the talent and not equipment.
But it is *VERY* important to understand how this stuff works in order to use
one's talents to best achieve the results you are after.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC





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> ...it is about the talent and not 
> equipment.
> But it is *VERY* important to understand how this stuff works in 
> order to use
> one's talents to best achieve the results you are after.

Harvey,

That's the same way I feel, though I'm not aunty-equipment as you are.

Austin

Austin Franklin wrote:

>
> > ...it is about the talent and not
> > equipment.
> > But it is *VERY* important to understand how this stuff works in
> > order to use
> > one's talents to best achieve the results you are after.
>
> Harvey,
>
> That's the same way I feel, though I'm not aunty-equipment as you are.
>
> AustinAustin,

I should refine what I wrote. I think people get too hung up on the equipment
and lose sight of the talent necessary to make good imagery.

But, I also like box cameras as much as Hasselblads. ;-)

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC




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> I think people get too hung up on
> the equipment
> and lose sight of the talent necessary to make good imagery.

That certainly is so true, but some people are better with equipment than
they are with imagery!

> But, I also like box cameras as much as Hasselblads. ;-)

But, Harvey...the Hasselblad IS a box camera ;-)

Regards,

Austin

have any of you ever read "zen in the art of archery" by eugen 
harrigel". it teaches that only after absolute total mastery of ones 
technigue and equipment can the talent that is inside you be 
available. until then the mind is too cluttered with the technical 
aspects to relax enough to produce the best possible work.

larry pirrone

 In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., SKID Photography <skid@b...> 
wrote:
> millerhillsteve wrote:
> 
> >  Ok folks, I think that's enough already. I would say that if you 
take a
> > picture and
> > convert it to Black and White and you like it...that's where the 
rubber hits
> > the
> > road. How it got there is unimportant unless your whole notion 
about making
> > images is about equipment and process rather than the image 
itself.
> >
> > Steve
> 
> How can you say that?   If it's only about the final image, this 
group would
> only discuss aesthetics and not technique.
> 
> I for one, am very anti-equipment, it is about the talent and not 
equipment.
> But it is *VERY* important to understand how this stuff works in 
order to use

> one's talents to best achieve the results you are after.
> 
> Harvey Ferdschneider
> partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I think Steve was crying "uncle" to you and Harvey's "Aunty" Tech ;^)

> > But it is *VERY* important to understand how this stuff works in 
> > order to use one's talents to best achieve the results...Harvey,


> That's the same way I feel, though I'm not aunty-equipment as you 
are... Austin

Agree, process is important.  Sometimes just the info is over our 
heads.  

"uncle!" 
Cleavis