Digital BW, The Print

Hi,
Eric mentioned edge effects and it's something I've experimented with a bit, but never exhibited in a show.

I've tried painting a mask onto some A4 paper, scanning it and then overlaying it so that the  photo looks painted on - digital 'liquid emulsion.'

But I've had less good results with creating really effective sloppy borders. Has anyone found good ways to do this? Sometimes they can look great.

Most edge effects actions etc I've seen have been awful phony frames.

Richard

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   "I find that the great thing in this world is not so much 
   where we stand as in what direction we are moving; 
   To reach the port of heaven, we must sail sometimes 
   with the wind and sometimes against it--but we must 
   sail, and not drift, nor lie at anchor."
   --Oliver Wendell Holmes

google sloppy borders. there are several programs available and some free actions that provide that effect.
   
  ann

Richard Smallfield <r.smallfield@...> wrote:
          Hi,
Eric mentioned edge effects and it's something I've experimented with a bit, but never exhibited in a show.

I've tried painting a mask onto some A4 paper, scanning it and then overlaying it so that the photo looks painted on - digital 'liquid emulsion.'

But I've had less good results with creating really effective sloppy borders. Has anyone found good ways to do this? Sometimes they can look great.

Most edge effects actions etc I've seen have been awful phony frames.

Richard

--
http://smallfield.vze.com 

"I find that the great thing in this world is not so much 
where we stand as in what direction we are moving; 
To reach the port of heaven, we must sail sometimes 
with the wind and sometimes against it--but we must 
sail, and not drift, nor lie at anchor."
--Oliver Wendell Holmes



                           

       
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I just did that - the good ones are quite expensive - and the bad ones are awful - much worse than what I can do manually with several layers. Maybe I just need to get one of those expensive programs when I get paid for something.

Richard

At 09:27 a.m. Monday 5/05/2008, you wrote:
>google sloppy borders. there are several programs available and some free actions that provide that effect.
>
>ann
>
>Richard Smallfield <<mailto:r.smallfield%40paradise.net.nz>r.smallfield@...> wrote:
>Hi,
>Eric mentioned edge effects and it's something I've experimented with a bit, but never exhibited in a show.
>
>I've tried painting a mask onto some A4 paper, scanning it and then overlaying it so that the photo looks painted on - digital 'liquid emulsion.'
>
>But I've had less good results with creating really effective sloppy borders. Has anyone found good ways to do this? Sometimes they can look great.
>
>Most edge effects actions etc I've seen have been awful phony frames.
>
>Richard
>
>--
><http://smallfield.vze.com>http://smallfield.vze.com 
>
>"I find that the great thing in this world is not so much 
>where we stand as in what direction we are moving; 
>To reach the port of heaven, we must sail sometimes 
>with the wind and sometimes against it--but we must 
>sail, and not drift, nor lie at anchor."
>--Oliver Wendell Holmes
>
>---------------------------------
>Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
>
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>
> 

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http://smallfield.vze.com 

   "I choose a block of marble and chop off whatever I don't need. " 
   --Francois-Auguste Rodin (1840-1917), when asked how he 
   managed to make his remarkable statues

Richard I'll send you an action that I made and use. In short though, you
make a new canvas a bit bigger, fill with white. Then magic wand that to
make it your selection. Expand it by ???  How much edge effect do you want?
Then apply a brush application along with a curve or levels adjustment. I
normally use curves but it is image dependent. Then do another selection and
contract or expand it. Al of this is mix and match to get you an effect that
floats your boat. : ) 


You can clone the image into the selected new canvas and blur it. The
possibilities are truly limitless. You might also look into Auto FX edges.  

Eric


Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street
Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
http://ericneilsenphotography.com
Skype ejprinter

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Smallfield
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 5:16 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Edge effects
> 
> I just did that - the good ones are quite expensive - and the bad ones are
> awful - much worse than what I can do manually with several layers. Maybe
> I just need to get one of those expensive programs when I get paid for
> something.
> 
> Richard
> 
> At 09:27 a.m. Monday 5/05/2008, you wrote:
> >google sloppy borders. there are several programs available and some free
> actions that provide that effect.
> >
> >ann
> >
> >Richard Smallfield
> <<mailto:r.smallfield%40paradise.net.nz>r.smallfield@...>
> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Eric mentioned edge effects and it's something I've experimented with a
> bit, but never exhibited in a show.
> >
> >I've tried painting a mask onto some A4 paper, scanning it and then
> overlaying it so that the photo looks painted on - digital 'liquid
> emulsion.'
> >
> >But I've had less good results with creating really effective sloppy
> borders. Has anyone found good ways to do this? Sometimes they can look
> great.
> >
> >Most edge effects actions etc I've seen have been awful phony frames.
> >
> >Richard
> >
> >--
> ><http://smallfield.vze.com>http://smallfield.vze.com
> >
> >"I find that the great thing in this world is not so much
> >where we stand as in what direction we are moving;
> >To reach the port of heaven, we must sail sometimes
> >with the wind and sometimes against it--but we must
> >sail, and not drift, nor lie at anchor."
> >--Oliver Wendell Holmes
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it
> now.
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> 
> --
> http://smallfield.vze.com
> 
>    "I choose a block of marble and chop off whatever I don't need. "
>    --Francois-Auguste Rodin (1840-1917), when asked how he
>    managed to make his remarkable statues
> 
> 
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For a number of years now I've used both Photo/Graphic Edges from AutoFX 
<http://www.autofx.com/products/PGE/detail.html> and PhotoFrame from 
onOne Software (formerly Extensis Products) 
<http://www.ononesoftware.com/detail.php?prodLine_id=10>, and have found 
them to offer a comparable range of extremely versatile, very high 
quality effects.

Of the current versions, Photo/Graphic Edges 6 and PhotoFrame 3, I 
prefer the latter, which is slightly less expensive, has a more 
user-friendly interface, and, in my opinion, a more interesting 
collection of edge effects. 

You may find it useful to know that their edge and frame files are 
interchangable-- an edge effect from PhotoGraphic Edges can be used in 
PhotoFrame, and the other way around, as well-- and edge/frame effects 
in several file formats (including jpg) can be used by both plugins. 

This is not software that every photographer would necessarily need or 
use-- and very few people would have any reason to purchase both 
programs-- but there have been quite a few circumstances in which I've 
found it very helpful to have available the options they provide.  
Either one would be a good investment.

Best wishes,

Shoshanna
http://www.pbase.com/shoshanna


 

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Richard Smallfield wrote:

> I just did that - the good ones are quite expensive - and the bad ones are awful - much worse than what I can do manually with several layers. Maybe I just need to get one of those expensive programs when I get paid for something.
>
> Richard
>