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just want to warn people that the paper feed with this model is the
most maddening I've experienced with any Epson since 1997.
Be prepared to dig deep into your reserve of patience and emotional
maturity.

Also wanted to see if anyone else using a 1400 has discovered any tips...

Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> just want to warn people that the paper feed with this model is the
> most maddening I've experienced with any Epson since 1997.
> Be prepared to dig deep into your reserve of patience and emotional
> maturity.
> 
> Also wanted to see if anyone else using a 1400 has discovered any 
tips...
> 
> Tyler
>

Strange, my 1400 has the best paper feeding I've ever seen. 
  

Paul   
www.PaulRoark.com

maybe we should swap perscriptions

T

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark"
<pr_roark@...> wrote:

>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
> <tyler@> wrote:
> >
> > just want to warn people that the paper feed with this model is the
> > most maddening I've experienced with any Epson since 1997.
> > Be prepared to dig deep into your reserve of patience and emotional
> > maturity.
> > 
> > Also wanted to see if anyone else using a 1400 has discovered any 
> tips...
> > 
> > Tyler
> >
> 
> Strange, my 1400 has the best paper feeding I've ever seen. 
>   
> 
> Paul   
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Tyler, I've been printing on one for about a month.  It has taken my 
thick cotton rag as effortlessly as my thin mulberry paper.  Maybe 
you got a bad printer???

Jenny

> > <tyler@> wrote:
> > >
> > > just want to warn people that the paper feed with this model is 
the
> > > most maddening I've experienced with any Epson since 1997.
> > > Be prepared to dig deep into your reserve of patience and 
emotional
> > > maturity.
> > > 
> > > Also wanted to see if anyone else using a 1400 has discovered 
any 

> > tips...
> > > 
> > > Tyler
> > >
> > 
> > Strange, my 1400 has the best paper feeding I've ever seen. 
> >   
> > 
> > Paul   
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
>

could be, others using it at the recent workshop also had problems, so I know it's not just 
me...
Thanks for the info, helpful.

T

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jenny Ellerbe" 
<jenny.ellerbe@...> wrote:

>
> Tyler, I've been printing on one for about a month.  It has taken my 
> thick cotton rag as effortlessly as my thin mulberry paper.  Maybe 
> you got a bad printer???
> 
> Jenny
> 
> > > <tyler@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > just want to warn people that the paper feed with this model is 
> the
> > > > most maddening I've experienced with any Epson since 1997.
> > > > Be prepared to dig deep into your reserve of patience and 
> emotional
> > > > maturity.
> > > > 
> > > > Also wanted to see if anyone else using a 1400 has discovered 
> any 
> > > tips...
> > > > 
> > > > Tyler
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Strange, my 1400 has the best paper feeding I've ever seen. 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Paul   
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > >
> >
>

If samples of the 1400 vary substantially in how well they handle 
paper, I think I'd try to return a bad sample to Epson claiming it was 
defective.  It would be interesting to see how they react to that type 
of warranty claim. 

Paul    
www.PaulRoark.com

Dear Tyler & Paul,

I've been sorely tempted by the glowing reports of the 1400 as a 
dedicated B&W printer, but I'm leary of having another fussy Epson 
paper feeder (have had struggles with the 3800 as well).  The maximum 
paper thickness that B&H lists for the printer is 11.8 mil.  Maybe 
Paul is getting good results because he uses thin papers?

I remember, Tyler, how persnickety that printer was in the workshop!

Christy

I don't know Christy, it shot 5 thin bond sheets in a row all the way
through today before accepting one just for a nozzle check. THis on
top of getting it to take the thick sheets at all, and when it does
not shooting those through too (I'm sure you recall).
Perhaps it is faulty as Paul suggests. On the other hand, I tend to
wonder what can really be expected from such an economy printer.

Have you lived with your prints enough to have thoughts on the ink set?
Tyler


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Christy Stebbins
<caostebbins@...> wrote:

>
> Dear Tyler & Paul,
> 
> I've been sorely tempted by the glowing reports of the 1400 as a 
> dedicated B&W printer, but I'm leary of having another fussy Epson 
> paper feeder (have had struggles with the 3800 as well).  The maximum 
> paper thickness that B&H lists for the printer is 11.8 mil.  Maybe 
> Paul is getting good results because he uses thin papers?
> 
> I remember, Tyler, how persnickety that printer was in the workshop!
> 
> Christy
>

Hi Tyler:

Just for fun, I recommend putting a heavy sheet of watercolor paper  
behind the thin sheets you are feeding and see if that helps with the  
feeding, I would not exceed the 12mil limit for the watercolor paper  
though just in case it also feeds through.

Hope that helps,

Andrew
---------------------------------------------------
Andrew Darlow
Editor, The Imaging Buffet
http://www.imagingbuffet.com
Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http:// 
www.inkjettips.com


On Jun 14, 2008, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:

> I don't know Christy, it shot 5 thin bond sheets in a row all the way
> through today before accepting one just for a nozzle check. THis on
> top of getting it to take the thick sheets at all, and when it does
> not shooting those through too (I'm sure you recall).
> Perhaps it is faulty as Paul suggests. On the other hand, I tend to
> wonder what can really be expected from such an economy printer.
>
> Have you lived with your prints enough to have thoughts on the ink  
> set?
> Tyler
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Christy Stebbins
> <caostebbins@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Tyler & Paul,
> >
> > I've been sorely tempted by the glowing reports of the 1400 as a
> > dedicated B&W printer, but I'm leary of having another fussy Epson
> > paper feeder (have had struggles with the 3800 as well). The maximum
> > paper thickness that B&H lists for the printer is 11.8 mil. Maybe
> > Paul is getting good results because he uses thin papers?
> >
> > I remember, Tyler, how persnickety that printer was in the workshop!
> >
> > Christy
> >
>
>
> 




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tried that right off Andrew, but thanks.
T

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow
<ad@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Tyler:
> 
> Just for fun, I recommend putting a heavy sheet of watercolor paper  
> behind the thin sheets you are feeding and see if that helps with the  
> feeding, I would not exceed the 12mil limit for the watercolor paper  
> though just in case it also feeds through.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Andrew
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Andrew Darlow
> Editor, The Imaging Buffet
> http://www.imagingbuffet.com
> Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
> An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http:// 
> www.inkjettips.com
> 
> 
> On Jun 14, 2008, at 9:24 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
> 
> > I don't know Christy, it shot 5 thin bond sheets in a row all the way
> > through today before accepting one just for a nozzle check. THis on
> > top of getting it to take the thick sheets at all, and when it does
> > not shooting those through too (I'm sure you recall).
> > Perhaps it is faulty as Paul suggests. On the other hand, I tend to
> > wonder what can really be expected from such an economy printer.
> >
> > Have you lived with your prints enough to have thoughts on the ink  
> > set?
> > Tyler
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Christy Stebbins
> > <caostebbins@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Tyler & Paul,
> > >
> > > I've been sorely tempted by the glowing reports of the 1400 as a
> > > dedicated B&W printer, but I'm leary of having another fussy Epson
> > > paper feeder (have had struggles with the 3800 as well). The maximum
> > > paper thickness that B&H lists for the printer is 11.8 mil. Maybe
> > > Paul is getting good results because he uses thin papers?
> > >
> > > I remember, Tyler, how persnickety that printer was in the workshop!
> > >
> > > Christy
> > >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Christy Stebbins 
<caostebbins@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Tyler & Paul,
> 
> I've been sorely tempted by the glowing reports of the 1400 as a 
> dedicated B&W printer, but I'm leary of having another fussy Epson 
> paper feeder (have had struggles with the 3800 as well).  The maximum 
> paper thickness that B&H lists for the printer is 11.8 mil.  

> Maybe Paul is getting good results because he uses thin papers?

No. Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308 feeds with no assist at all; same for 
Ilford Gold and all common papers I've tried.  The only paper I need a 
slight manual assist for that I use is Premier Art Hot Press 325.

Paul  
www.PaulRoark.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know Christy, it shot 5 thin bond sheets in a row all the way
> through today before accepting one just for a nozzle check. ...

We may be talking about different things here.  My 1400 does, indeed, 
act differently than other Epson printers in that I can't pre-feed the 
paper with the button on the printer.  It does shot it straight through 
if I try that.  So, I don't.  That behavior is so consistent I assumed 
it was an intentional -- though odd -- part of the design.  

If, however, the driver sends the 1400 the signal to start printing it 
feeds the paper extremenly well. 

Paul  
www.PaulRoark.com

Hi,
i wonder if the 1400 feeds Calumet Brilliant Fineartpapers (which i
love most) which are 300 mg and 18-19 mil.? Premier Art Hot Press 325
for example has 17 mil. i guess and Paul wrote that this paper needs a
slight manual assist. What do you think? 

Frank

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark"
<pr_roark@...> wrote:

>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Christy Stebbins 
> <caostebbins@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Tyler & Paul,
> > 
> > I've been sorely tempted by the glowing reports of the 1400 as a 
> > dedicated B&W printer, but I'm leary of having another fussy Epson 
> > paper feeder (have had struggles with the 3800 as well).  The maximum 
> > paper thickness that B&H lists for the printer is 11.8 mil.  
> 
> > Maybe Paul is getting good results because he uses thin papers?
> 
> No. Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308 feeds with no assist at all; same for 
> Ilford Gold and all common papers I've tried.  The only paper I need a 
> slight manual assist for that I use is Premier Art Hot Press 325.
> 
> Paul  
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

I think the trick to making Epson a reliable paper feeder includes
cleaning the rollers every so often...gunk accumulates, more with some
paper than with others.

How to clean? IMO the smartest thing (least goofy) is to use the
printer cleaning kits sold by office supply stores...they include
sheets of some sort of tough paper that's soaked in a cleaner and
sealed in envelopes to prevent drying. I use them whenever paper stops
feeding reliably. 

It might be possible to recharge this tough fiberglass-like paper with
Windex or ammonia..I've not tried.



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"frankbickelmeyer" <bickelmeyer@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> i wonder if the 1400 feeds Calumet Brilliant Fineartpapers (which i
> love most) which are 300 mg and 18-19 mil.? Premier Art Hot Press 325
> for example has 17 mil. i guess and Paul wrote that this paper needs a
> slight manual assist. What do you think? 
> 
> Frank
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark"
> <pr_roark@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Christy Stebbins 
> > <caostebbins@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Tyler & Paul,
> > > 
> > > I've been sorely tempted by the glowing reports of the 1400 as a 
> > > dedicated B&W printer, but I'm leary of having another fussy Epson 
> > > paper feeder (have had struggles with the 3800 as well).  The
maximum 
> > > paper thickness that B&H lists for the printer is 11.8 mil.  
> > 
> > > Maybe Paul is getting good results because he uses thin papers?
> > 
> > No. Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308 feeds with no assist at all; same for 
> > Ilford Gold and all common papers I've tried.  The only paper I
need a 

> > slight manual assist for that I use is Premier Art Hot Press 325.
> > 
> > Paul  
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
>