Digital BW, The Print

Hi Allan:
I think the R1900 is the successor to the R1800 and should be available now. 
Next step up is the 3800 and that has gotten rave reviews.
I'm still using my old 1280 and a 2200, so I can't talk about the above 
printers from experience.
Bert

katzung1@...
www.astronomy-images.com
www.visionlightgallery.com/katzung/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allan Chen" <allan@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] with the R1800 discontinued...


So my 1280 finally bit the dust about 2 months ago.  I'm very, very
slowly trying to figure out my next printer.  I haven't kept up with
this group, and of course it's a lot of information through which to
sift.  I have read a lot of threads and posts in the last weeks.

Since the R1800 is discontinued...I'm not sure what is a better option
for me.  Look for an R1800 (Epson has a refurb one right now, for
instance) and go with the triple eboni, or maybe a 1400?  I saw some
that said "in many ways" the 1400 was better than the 1800.  But if
given the choice...?  Especially with baryta papers becoming more and
more popular?

It seems that, with the new glossier papers coming out, the 1400 is
the better long-term (as much as that term can be used) solution.  Is
that a decent interpretation of the landscape of options right now?


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Bert,
Thanks.  I know the 1900 is out, but many comments were that when an
inkset would be available is anyone's guess since Epson changes its
cart system/protection methods each generation.  So I was looking at
either a refurb/clearance 1800 or a 1400.  

The 3800 doesn't work with roll paper, right?  And that would be with
Epson's ABW workflow rather than a dedicated inkset?  I didn't read
about other methods.  

thanks.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bert Katzung"
<katzung1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Allan:
> I think the R1900 is the successor to the R1800 and should be
available now. 
> Next step up is the 3800 and that has gotten rave reviews.
> I'm still using my old 1280 and a 2200, so I can't talk about the above 
> printers from experience.
> Bert
> 
> katzung1@...
> www.astronomy-images.com
> www.visionlightgallery.com/katzung/
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Allan Chen" <allan@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:01 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] with the R1800 discontinued...
> 
> 
> So my 1280 finally bit the dust about 2 months ago.  I'm very, very
> slowly trying to figure out my next printer.  I haven't kept up with
> this group, and of course it's a lot of information through which to
> sift.  I have read a lot of threads and posts in the last weeks.
> 
> Since the R1800 is discontinued...I'm not sure what is a better option
> for me.  Look for an R1800 (Epson has a refurb one right now, for
> instance) and go with the triple eboni, or maybe a 1400?  I saw some
> that said "in many ways" the 1400 was better than the 1800.  But if
> given the choice...?  Especially with baryta papers becoming more and
> more popular?
> 
> It seems that, with the new glossier papers coming out, the 1400 is
> the better long-term (as much as that term can be used) solution.  Is
> that a decent interpretation of the landscape of options right now?
> 
> 
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Hi,
the 3800 does take paper up to 95cm long, so if you don't need more than that, you can cut up roll paper and use the top feeder, as I do with my 2100.

It seems very good value for money.

Richard

At 07:01 a.m. Monday 7/07/2008, you wrote:

>Bert,
>Thanks. I know the 1900 is out, but many comments were that when an
>inkset would be available is anyone's guess since Epson changes its
>cart system/protection methods each generation. So I was looking at
>either a refurb/clearance 1800 or a 1400. 
>
>The 3800 doesn't work with roll paper, right? And that would be with
>Epson's ABW workflow rather than a dedicated inkset? I didn't read
>about other methods. 
>
>thanks.
>
>--- In <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bert Katzung"
><katzung1@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Allan:
>> I think the R1900 is the successor to the R1800 and should be
>available now. 
>> Next step up is the 3800 and that has gotten rave reviews.
>> I'm still using my old 1280 and a 2200, so I can't talk about the above 
>> printers from experience.
>> Bert
>> 
>> katzung1@...
>> www.astronomy-images.com
>> www.visionlightgallery.com/katzung/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Allan Chen" <allan@...>
>> To: <<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:01 PM
>> Subject: [Digital BW] with the R1800 discontinued...
>> 
>> 
>> So my 1280 finally bit the dust about 2 months ago. I'm very, very
>> slowly trying to figure out my next printer. I haven't kept up with
>> this group, and of course it's a lot of information through which to
>> sift. I have read a lot of threads and posts in the last weeks.
>> 
>> Since the R1800 is discontinued...I'm not sure what is a better option
>> for me. Look for an R1800 (Epson has a refurb one right now, for
>> instance) and go with the triple eboni, or maybe a 1400? I saw some
>> that said "in many ways" the 1400 was better than the 1800. But if
>> given the choice...? Especially with baryta papers becoming more and
>> more popular?
>> 
>> It seems that, with the new glossier papers coming out, the 1400 is
>> the better long-term (as much as that term can be used) solution. Is
>> that a decent interpretation of the landscape of options right now?
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
>> 
>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other
>resources as 
>> they are often being updated.
>> 
>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>> 
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>> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting
>this same 
>> page.
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>to keep 
>> them short.
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>> Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the 
>> membership without notice.
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>> printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed
>from 
>> the membership.
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>> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group
>Owner and 
>> Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files
>section:
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>> 
>> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE
>PRINT 
>> YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND 
>> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE
>LIABLE TO YOU 
>> FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR
>EXEMPLARY 
>> DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, 
>> GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER"
>AND 
>> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED
>OF THE 
>> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE
>INABILITY 
>> TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED
>ACCESS TO OR 
>> ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR
>CONDUCT OF ANY 
>> THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER 
>> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>
> 

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