Digital BW, The Print

Every once in a while, I forget to change the mode to monochrome after
I convert to B&W in PS3.  After layers are added, it is impossible to
convert from RGB without flattening the file.  Question: does it make
a difference whether you work on a B&W file in RGB or monochrome?  99
times out of 100 I catch the problem before I print and send a
monochrome file to my 2400 in ABW mode.  

Thanks,

Steve

Not true, select the option of do not flatten.

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Stephen Kobrin wrote:

> it is impossible to
> convert from RGB without flattening the file



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And it makes sense to work with those layers in the luminosity mode rather
than normal. While it does not happen all the time or anything more than
rarely, I have seen slight changes to a file. So when working on files that
are RGB looking like monochrome, best to work in a mode that reflects that
thinking. 

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
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To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RGB vs. Monochrome

 

Not true, select the option of do not flatten.

Mark
http://www.stillriv <http://www.stillrivereditions.com> ereditions.com

On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Stephen Kobrin wrote:

> it is impossible to
> convert from RGB without flattening the file

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Hello Stephen,

>Question: does it make a difference whether you work on a B&W file 
>in RGB or monochrome?  

In my tests I never found any print quality advantage to RGB over
grayscale.  I do find much advantage to the 2/3 reduction in file size
of grayscale in that various manipulations in PS are much quicker (not
to mention reduced storage requirements).

However, there are some techniques and/or 3rd party products that
require RGB files, such as color-to-bw conversion apps that emulate BW
films, split toning techniques, film grain emulators, and edge effects.   

I don't use any of those so I go to grayscale first thing after the
color-to-bw conversion or neg scanning.  For me the smaller file size
is a major consideration.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
I-Trak 2.1   http://www.cjcom.net/itrak.htm

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Kobrin"
<kobrins@...> wrote:

"99 times out of 100 I catch the problem before I print and send a
monochrome file to my 2400 in ABW mode.'

I'm not certain of the meaning of this sentence. Are you saying the
problem you catch is sending a monochrome file, or that you catch it
and send an RGB file? Maybe it's just too early for me and I haven't
had a coffee yet. I'm under the impression that the 2400 ABW prefers a
grayscale file over an RGB. So I always convert to grayscale for the
file size reasons Clayton mentioned and to sync properly with the ABW.
Maybe I should get that coffee now.

George Le Masurier
Gig Harbor, WA

Sorry for any imprecision.  I always send a monochrome file to the 2400.  

Thanks to all who replied.

Steve


-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "glemasurier"
<george.lemasurier@...> wrote:

>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Kobrin"
> <kobrins@> wrote:
> 
> "99 times out of 100 I catch the problem before I print and send a
> monochrome file to my 2400 in ABW mode.'
> 
> I'm not certain of the meaning of this sentence. Are you saying the
> problem you catch is sending a monochrome file, or that you catch it
> and send an RGB file? Maybe it's just too early for me and I haven't
> had a coffee yet. I'm under the impression that the 2400 ABW prefers a
> grayscale file over an RGB. So I always convert to grayscale for the
> file size reasons Clayton mentioned and to sync properly with the ABW.
> Maybe I should get that coffee now.
> 
> George Le Masurier
> Gig Harbor, WA
>