Digital BW, The Print

Frame Destination Inc. is having a special sale to celebrate being in business 5 years! This includes wood and metal picture frames, clear bags, mats, storage boxes, foam core, mounting material such as photo corners and hinging tape and our new stretcher bars frames. This is in addition to our volume discounts that start as low as quantity 4. 

Web site: http://www.framedestination.com/
10% Off Everything
Promo code: DB7547
Expires 4/30/09

Cheers,
Mark
Frame Destination, Inc.
http://blog.framedestination.com
http://www.framedestination.com
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Blatant ad, I thought was not allowed in group?

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Apr 15, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Mark Rogers wrote:

> Frame Destination Inc.

I was given permission from Antonis back in July. Since you have mentioned this I reviewed my past correspondence with him and although I was given permission to make a similar post back then, it is not clear if that can be extended to this post. Antonis, if I have over stepped my bounds with your previous email, my apologies. I will understand if you remove this.

Sincerely,
Mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:

>
> Blatant ad, I thought was not allowed in group?
> 
> Mark
> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
> 
> On Apr 15, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Mark Rogers wrote:
> 
> > Frame Destination Inc.
>

Mark,

The group rules do allow participating members to promote their products so long as it is something that would be of interest to the group in general.

Mark Rogers has been a member of the group for about 5 1/2 years and has contributed over that time. So his "ad" would fall within the guidelines. As Mark Rogers said in his response to you, he asked permission previous to post a similar announcement earlier which was granted.

So the fault lies with Antonis and myself. Overall we do our best to keep the group spam free. We screen all initial posts by new members and you have no idea how many offers to improve your love life, financial situation, etc. you have missed.

All that aside, if there is a general consensus that Mark Roger's post was out of line, let us know and we will reconsider the policy.

Thanks,
Martin Wesley


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:

>
> Blatant ad, I thought was not allowed in group?
> 
> Mark
> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
> 
> On Apr 15, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Mark Rogers wrote:
> 
> > Frame Destination Inc.
>

You do a good job Martin and we appreciate your efforts and defer to your judgment.

john

I appreciate this kind of ads.

I also appreciate that Mark did ask for permission before doing it and kept it short.

Given that this group is alive, I think that one message like this every once in a while is welcome.

Marco

I, for one, did not think his ad was out of line.  Jim

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mwesley3 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Special Framing Sale for Digital BW forum





  Mark,

  The group rules do allow participating members to promote their products so long as it is something that would be of interest to the group in general.

  Mark Rogers has been a member of the group for about 5 1/2 years and has contributed over that time. So his "ad" would fall within the guidelines. As Mark Rogers said in his response to you, he asked permission previous to post a similar announcement earlier which was granted.

  So the fault lies with Antonis and myself. Overall we do our best to keep the group spam free. We screen all initial posts by new members and you have no idea how many offers to improve your love life, financial situation, etc. you have missed.

  All that aside, if there is a general consensus that Mark Roger's post was out of line, let us know and we will reconsider the policy.

  Thanks,
  Martin Wesley

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:
  >
  > Blatant ad, I thought was not allowed in group?
  > 
  > Mark
  > http://www.stillrivereditions.com
  > 
  > On Apr 15, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Mark Rogers wrote:
  > 
  > > Frame Destination Inc.
  >



  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It is just that other e-groups (concerning printing) ban this so it  
does not become like a half hour of network TV, 15 minutes of  
commercials. I do agree that this is helpful to the group but then  
should I post info about my business trying to drum up business from  
the members too? And the next person too, and so on. It seems like it  
can go wild quickly.

Allowing us to sign our posts with a link to our business leaves the  
option for members to learn about what we do and our level of  
knowledge, it was never intended to solicit business. Isn't that enough?

Perhaps a section in the files area can be set up to have members who  
wish to solicit, put info about them and offers would be valuable.  
Not sure if that can be done.

Bottom line is I just feel this is a place to exchange knowledge, not  
make a sales pitch. JMO

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com

On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:58 PM, mwesley3 wrote:

> Mark,
>
> The group rules do allow participating members to promote their  
> products so long as it is something that would be of interest to  
> the group in general.
>
> Mark Rogers has been a member of the group for about 5 1/2 years  
> and has contributed over that time. So his "ad" would fall within  
> the guidelines. As Mark Rogers said in his response to you, he  
> asked permission previous to post a similar announcement earlier  
> which was granted.
>
> So the fault lies with Antonis and myself. Overall we do our best  
> to keep the group spam free. We screen all initial posts by new  
> members and you have no idea how many offers to improve your love  
> life, financial situation, etc. you have missed.
>
> All that aside, if there is a general consensus that Mark Roger's  
> post was out of line, let us know and we will reconsider the policy.
>
> Thanks,
> Martin Wesley
>

At 10:58 PM 4/15/2009, mwesley3 wrote:

>The group rules do allow participating members to promote their 
>products so long as it is something that would be of interest to the 
>group in general.
. . .

I personally think it's great that people like Mark Rogers of Frame 
Destination are part of this group, and occasionally put in an 
explicit "plug" for their products or services.  Mark and other 
vendors also bring a wealth of practical experience.

I've been on lists filled with spam and off topic posts, so I 
appreciate the effort to keep this list "pure".  But leaving out 
vendors -- even the friendliest vendors -- does not help towards that 
end.  Also, I'd note that some of us (not me) offer fine print 
services, so there are more "vendors" here than may at first be apparent.

My 2c.

Arthur Fink


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