Digital BW, The Print

One of the ongoing limitations of many Epson printers is the need to  
change cartridges to switch between BK and PK. This is especially  
problematic for large printers like the 4880 which hold quite of bit  
of ink in the "line" between the cartridge and the damper/head.

http://www.americaninkjetsystems.com/epson_professional_printers.html  
says this about the 4880 and other 8-color Epsons:

> "You can set up all Epson 8-color printer in several ways:
> 1: With two blacks, Gloss and Matte with Lt Black.
> 2: With one Black, Lt Black and Lt Lt Black.
> 3: With one Black, Lt Black and Lime Green.
> 4: With multiple colors for fabric printing."

The second of these is, of course, the standard configuration.

The first eliminates the Lt Lt Black in favour of having both "pure"  
blacks available at all times.

They are using their own RIP to print these arrangements. For the  
4880, that costs $500, and is Windows only at present.

Is there a way to use QTR ($50) to print color with two (rather than  
three) blacks, and B&W with two blacks?
I assume this can be done, but I am not well enough versed in QTR to  
know how to go about accomplishing it.

...and I suppose I would want to test the 2K printing before  
switching, as well.

Thanks.

Myron





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Myron Gochnauer schreef:
> One of the ongoing limitations of many Epson printers is the need to  
> change cartridges to switch between BK and PK. This is especially  
> problematic for large printers like the 4880 which hold quite of bit  
> of ink in the "line" between the cartridge and the damper/head.
> 
> http://www.americaninkjetsystems.com/epson_professional_printers.html  
> says this about the 4880 and other 8-color Epsons:
> 
>> "You can set up all Epson 8-color printer in several ways:
>> 1: With two blacks, Gloss and Matte with Lt Black.
>> 2: With one Black, Lt Black and Lt Lt Black.
>> 3: With one Black, Lt Black and Lime Green.
>> 4: With multiple colors for fabric printing."
> 
> The second of these is, of course, the standard configuration.
> 
> The first eliminates the Lt Lt Black in favour of having both "pure"  
> blacks available at all times.
> 
> They are using their own RIP to print these arrangements. For the  
> 4880, that costs $500, and is Windows only at present.
> 
> Is there a way to use QTR ($50) to print color with two (rather than  
> three) blacks, and B&W with two blacks?
> I assume this can be done, but I am not well enough versed in QTR to  
> know how to go about accomplishing it.
> 
> ...and I suppose I would want to test the 2K printing before  
> switching, as well.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Myron

Imageprint had that "Phatte" black driver and the appropriate black cart 
to fit the LLK slot too.
You will be able to drive it with QTR in B&W mode but for color you will 
need another driver, QTR doesn't have a color engine.
Given the 12 ink channel solutions of other manufacturers it may be 
wiser to check their products if color and B&W have to be printed on one 
printer. It will offer you 2-3-4 K inks for both color and B&W in gloss 
and matte. The 4880 converted to B&W only is another option.


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If you don't mind the extra work and learning curve, you could probably do this by printing out of Gimp in a Linux using the Gutenprint plugin for the Gimp. You would simply turn off the unwanted black by giving it a 0 limit. Setting up two virtual printers with either PK or Matt black could allow what you wish.
It has a zero $ cost for the rip.

Regards,
Duane



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Myron Gochnauer <goch@...> wrote:

>
> One of the ongoing limitations of many Epson printers is the need to  
> change cartridges to switch between BK and PK. This is especially  
> problematic for large printers like the 4880 which hold quite of bit  
> of ink in the "line" between the cartridge and the damper/head.
> 
> http://www.americaninkjetsystems.com/epson_professional_printers.html  
> says this about the 4880 and other 8-color Epsons:
> 
> > "You can set up all Epson 8-color printer in several ways:
> > 1: With two blacks, Gloss and Matte with Lt Black.
> > 2: With one Black, Lt Black and Lt Lt Black.
> > 3: With one Black, Lt Black and Lime Green.
> > 4: With multiple colors for fabric printing."
> 
> The second of these is, of course, the standard configuration.
> 
> The first eliminates the Lt Lt Black in favour of having both "pure"  
> blacks available at all times.
> 
> They are using their own RIP to print these arrangements. For the  
> 4880, that costs $500, and is Windows only at present.
> 
> Is there a way to use QTR ($50) to print color with two (rather than  
> three) blacks, and B&W with two blacks?
> I assume this can be done, but I am not well enough versed in QTR to  
> know how to go about accomplishing it.
> 
> ...and I suppose I would want to test the 2K printing before  
> switching, as well.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Myron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

dlruckus schreef:
> If you don't mind the extra work and learning curve, you could probably do this by printing out of Gimp in a Linux using the Gutenprint plugin for the Gimp. You would simply turn off the unwanted black by giving it a 0 limit. Setting up two virtual printers with either PK or Matt black could allow what you wish.
> It has a zero $ cost for the rip.
> 
> Regards,
> Duane

It means switching LLK for a Black. I can understand the blocking of the 
alternative black channel in either gloss or matte mode but I presume 
the LLK is still seen as available for the GCR-Black generation in the 
color engine's tonal curves. Maybe the gloss and matte driver 
descriptions of a 4000 or 7600 or could be used instead then but in my 
view this isn't simple.


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