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Matte paper with Adhesive back

2009-07-30 by pr_roark

Does anyone know of a good - for B&W - matte inkjet paper that has an adhesive backing?  Avery 8255 is a plain paper version of such, but it's not really up to the quality I'd like to find.

Thanks,

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: Matte paper with Adhesive back

2009-07-31 by Chuck Behrman

Hi Paul,

I've been using Lexjet's Water-Resistant Self Adhesive Polypropylene   http://www.lexjet.com/lexjet/product_disp.asp?dept%5Fid=12076&pf%5Fid=PPSAOB  . It only comes in rolls but it has a matte surface and seems to have an excellent tone range. It looks very much like the image Jim  (B&W Gallery) had on the lightbox in his print room. It can be viewed both with transmitted as well as reflected light. I've been having very good results with this media with both black & white and color inks. It seems to like mk black a little better than pk. Also, it works well with Piezography inks.

Digital Art Supplies also carries a version with a removable adhesive backing.

Good luck,

Chuck
Chuck Behrman
chuck@...



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <pr_roark@...> wrote:
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> Does anyone know of a good - for B&W - matte inkjet paper that has an adhesive backing?  Avery 8255 is a plain paper version of such, but it's not really up to the quality I'd like to find.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Re: Matte paper with Adhesive back

2009-07-31 by maarupe

Epson's Enhanced Adhesive Synthetic Paper

I've printed (Advanced B&W) a few B&W exhibitions (scans from 20 - 70 years old negatives) which have received raving reaction even from the old-time darkroom guys.

Aivars

Re: Matte paper with Adhesive back

2009-08-01 by Yvonne Muller

A question to both of you:  Have you had success with your adhesive papers over time, on the wall?  I ask becasuse my various attempts at attaching prints to backing myself, w/o using a press, have constantly met with disaster.  The worst was a show in which areas peeled away over time and had to be tacked back down throughout the show.  It was a nightmare.  Please let me know how you are using the adhesive papers.  Thanks.
Yvonne Muller



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "maarupe" <aivars.purmals@...> wrote:
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> Epson's Enhanced Adhesive Synthetic Paper
> 
> I've printed (Advanced B&W) a few B&W exhibitions (scans from 20 - 70 years old negatives) which have received raving reaction even from the old-time darkroom guys.
> 
> Aivars
>

Re: Matte paper with Adhesive back

2009-08-02 by Chuck Behrman

I've been using two papers for a couple years and one other for about a year.

Lexjet Water Resistant Self Adhesive Polypropylene (permanent) & Digital Art Supplies Sticky Indoor Backlit (removable) have both shown very good results both in print quality and as far as adhesion. Both materials have a translucent white base.

The third is Lexjet Phototex cloth material that can be used as a removable wallpaper. I've found that the image quality of this material is not as acute as the others because it is a cloth base rather than polypropylene. However, the print quality is very good and the material can easily be removed from a painted surface without damage.

I'm using both Piezography inks and ConeColor inks on all three materials with excellent results.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Yvonne Muller" <bellvale@...> wrote:
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> A question to both of you:  Have you had success with your adhesive papers over time, on the wall?  I ask becasuse my various attempts at attaching prints to backing myself, w/o using a press, have constantly met with disaster.  The worst was a show in which areas peeled away over time and had to be tacked back down throughout the show.  It was a nightmare.  Please let me know how you are using the adhesive papers.  Thanks.
> Yvonne Muller
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "maarupe" <aivars.purmals@> wrote:
> >
> > Epson's Enhanced Adhesive Synthetic Paper
> > 
> > I've printed (Advanced B&W) a few B&W exhibitions (scans from 20 - 70 years old negatives) which have received raving reaction even from the old-time darkroom guys.
> > 
> > Aivars
> >
>

Re: Matte paper with Adhesive back

2009-08-02 by grangermacy

Another possibility is using one of the adhesive backing products that are available.  I know Epson makes one.  3M's positionable mounting adhesive is another product that will allow you to apply adhesive to the print without a spray.  And then you get full paper choice!
granger
www.thesilveriris.com
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <pr_roark@...> wrote:
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> Does anyone know of a good - for B&W - matte inkjet paper that has an adhesive backing?  Avery 8255 is a plain paper version of such, but it's not really up to the quality I'd like to find.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-03 by ausdlk

TheAustin Center for Photography is pleased to issue a Call For
Entriesfor its Home Page Photo Contest  No.2. This contest is free to
ACP members,is open to all photographers, amateur and pro, is not
themed, and isfor black & white photographs only.

To read the Official Call for Entries, click here
<http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/> .

This contest is made for black and white photographers! Get your entries
in soon.
.
Dave.

--
2009 PAW Gallery: www.david-keenan.com/paw
<http://www.david-keenan.com/paw>
Web Site: www.david-keenan.com <http://www.david-keenan.com/>
Austin Center for Photography: www.visitacp.org
<http://www.visitacp.org/>  -- Check it out!!!
ACP Blog: www.visitacp.org/blog <http://www.visitacp.org/blog>  --
New!!!



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Re: [Digital BW] Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-03 by Mark Savoia

Did I miss something but the only "prize" is you get in a slide show  
on their home page? No exhibition, publication, or cash awards?

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com
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On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:15 PM, ausdlk wrote:

> TheAustin Center for Photography is pleased to issue a Call For
> Entriesfor its Home Page Photo Contest  No.2. This contest is free to
> ACP members,is open to all photographers, amateur and pro, is not
> themed, and isfor black & white photographs only.
>
> To read the Official Call for Entries, click here
> <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/> .
>
> This contest is made for black and white photographers! Get your  
> entries
> in soon.
> .
> Dave.

Re: [Digital BW] Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-04 by Andrew Sharpe

Dave,

The submission guidelines includes this statement: "Only horizontal
(landscape) orientation photographs are accepted".

What an odd requirement! Many of my photographs are in portrait and
square format. Is the format such an important consideration to
*disallow* anything but landscape?

Please explain this strange restriction.

Thanks,

Andrew

[ for those of you on the QTR email list, sorry for the crosspost ]
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On 08/03/2009 10:15 AM, ausdlk wrote:
>  
> 
> TheAustin Center for Photography is pleased to issue a Call For
> Entriesfor its Home Page Photo Contest No.2. This contest is free to
> ACP members,is open to all photographers, amateur and pro, is not
> themed, and isfor black & white photographs only.
> 
> To read the Official Call for Entries, click here
> <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/
> <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/>> .
> 
> This contest is made for black and white photographers! Get your entries
> in soon.
> .
> Dave.
> 
> --
> 2009 PAW Gallery: www.david-keenan.com/paw
> <http://www.david-keenan.com/paw <http://www.david-keenan.com/paw>>
> Web Site: www.david-keenan.com <http://www.david-keenan.com/
> <http://www.david-keenan.com/>>
> Austin Center for Photography: www.visitacp.org
> <http://www.visitacp.org/ <http://www.visitacp.org/>> -- Check it out!!!
> ACP Blog: www.visitacp.org/blog <http://www.visitacp.org/blog
> <http://www.visitacp.org/blog>> --
> New!!!
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
>

Re: [Digital BW] Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-04 by C D Tobie

On Aug 4, 2009, at 12:36 AM, Andrew Sharpe wrote:

> The submission guidelines includes this statement: "Only horizontal
> (landscape) orientation photographs are accepted".
>
> What an odd requirement! Many of my photographs are in portrait and
> square format. Is the format such an important consideration to
> *disallow* anything but landscape?
>
> Please explain this strange restriction.

I believe this is a less-than-creative method of assuring continuity  
between slides in a slideshow. As odd as such a restriction seems, I  
recently was teaching at a major workshop, where a big name instructor  
proclaimed to the students that images should always be shot in  
landscape mode: that was how people see, that is how TV and movies are  
shot, and it was how still photos should be shot. Had I not been a  
guest speaker in his class, I might have pointed out that books and  
magazines don't follow that rule, portraits don't follow that rule,  
and that such restrictions might make his life simpler (especially in  
assembling a student slideshow), but they would make my photography  
much less dynamic and creative. If a static frame for a slideshow is  
needed, and if the person determining it is biased towards landscape  
instead of neutral or vertical orientations, then I usually suggest  
matting all slides on a black background on the required size,  
proportion, and orientation, instead of proclaiming that the world is  
flat.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
CDTobie@...


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Datacolor
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RE: [Digital BW] Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-04 by Eric Neilsen

I believe, in this case, it was posted for their home page. We are talking
computer screens here and within their layout and to give it maximum size
within there system and without a redesign, a landscape format works. 

 

I too however, bristle at the suggestion that photos should only be taken
any one way. I think I'd have gotten up and walked out knowing that even if
the rest of the talk had some value, the supposition of the speaker too
great to over come that constant head banging, What the heck is this guy on?


 

Eric  

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214-827-8301

www.ericneilsenphotography.com

 

SKYPE   ejprinter

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On Aug 4, 2009, at 12:36 AM, Andrew Sharpe wrote:

> The submission guidelines includes this statement: "Only horizontal
> (landscape) orientation photographs are accepted".
>
> What an odd requirement! Many of my photographs are in portrait and
> square format. Is the format such an important consideration to
> *disallow* anything but landscape?
>
> Please explain this strange restriction.




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Re: [Digital BW] Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-04 by Andrew Sharpe

C. David,

Thanks for your thoughtful analysis. You may very well be right, as the
contest talks about a slide show. I think, however, what you may have
done is give Dave a convenient way out, without having him take the time
and energy to explain for himself.

Andrew
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On 8/4/2009, "C D Tobie" <CDTobie@...> wrote:

>
>On Aug 4, 2009, at 12:36 AM, Andrew Sharpe wrote:
>
>> The submission guidelines includes this statement: "Only horizontal
>> (landscape) orientation photographs are accepted".
>>
>> What an odd requirement! Many of my photographs are in portrait and
>> square format. Is the format such an important consideration to
>> *disallow* anything but landscape?
>>
>> Please explain this strange restriction.
>
>I believe this is a less-than-creative method of assuring continuity
>between slides in a slideshow. As odd as such a restriction seems, I
>recently was teaching at a major workshop, where a big name instructor
>proclaimed to the students that images should always be shot in
>landscape mode: that was how people see, that is how TV and movies are
>shot, and it was how still photos should be shot. Had I not been a
>guest speaker in his class, I might have pointed out that books and
>magazines don't follow that rule, portraits don't follow that rule,
>and that such restrictions might make his life simpler (especially in
>assembling a student slideshow), but they would make my photography
>much less dynamic and creative. If a static frame for a slideshow is
>needed, and if the person determining it is biased towards landscape
>instead of neutral or vertical orientations, then I usually suggest
>matting all slides on a black background on the required size,
>proportion, and orientation, instead of proclaiming that the world is
>flat.
>
>C. David Tobie
>Global Product Technology Manager
>Digital Imaging & Home Theater
>CDTobie@...
>
>
>  ----------
>
>
>Datacolor
>www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

Re: Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-04 by ausdlk

The orientation of the ACP home page slide show is horizontal.

Vertical images this space turn out to be very small. Square images have large margins on either side.

We want the flow of the slide show to be consistently horizontal -- both for photographs and for announcements.

It's not that we think vertical or square photographs are in any way bad, they just don't fit our current format.

We'll have other competitions in the future that do not have this restriction.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Sharpe <asharpe@...> wrote:
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>
> Dave,
> 
> The submission guidelines includes this statement: "Only horizontal
> (landscape) orientation photographs are accepted".
> 
> What an odd requirement! Many of my photographs are in portrait and
> square format. Is the format such an important consideration to
> *disallow* anything but landscape?
> 
> Please explain this strange restriction.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> [ for those of you on the QTR email list, sorry for the crosspost ]
> 
> On 08/03/2009 10:15 AM, ausdlk wrote:
> >  
> > 
> > TheAustin Center for Photography is pleased to issue a Call For
> > Entriesfor its Home Page Photo Contest No.2. This contest is free to
> > ACP members,is open to all photographers, amateur and pro, is not
> > themed, and isfor black & white photographs only.
> > 
> > To read the Official Call for Entries, click here
> > <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/
> > <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/>> .
> > 
> > This contest is made for black and white photographers! Get your entries
> > in soon.
> > .
> > Dave.
> > 
> > --
> > 2009 PAW Gallery: www.david-keenan.com/paw
> > <http://www.david-keenan.com/paw <http://www.david-keenan.com/paw>>
> > Web Site: www.david-keenan.com <http://www.david-keenan.com/
> > <http://www.david-keenan.com/>>
> > Austin Center for Photography: www.visitacp.org
> > <http://www.visitacp.org/ <http://www.visitacp.org/>> -- Check it out!!!
> > ACP Blog: www.visitacp.org/blog <http://www.visitacp.org/blog
> > <http://www.visitacp.org/blog>> --
> > New!!!
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> >
>

Re: Matte paper with Adhesive back

2009-08-04 by Joost Horsten

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Behrman" <chuck@...> wrote:

> I've been using two papers for a couple years and one other for about a year.
> Lexjet Water Resistant Self Adhesive Polypropylene (permanent) & Digital Art Supplies Sticky Indoor Backlit (removable) have both shown very good results both in print quality and as far as adhesion. Both materials have a translucent white base.

This thread triggered a slumbering interest... I checked out Lexjet but it seems they do not supply in Europe. Most likely the same material will be available under another brand here. Any clue? I will further check out the Epson material. I can't find any specific info about the appearance, but that fact it has been mentioned as reply here I assume it is matte indeed, right?

Joost

Re: Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-05 by nickskin0

Only allowing a 'landscape' format is certainly an interesting decision to make, and judging by the reaction of some posts, probably not that well received. I wonder if the competition organisers aren't worried that this, in my view, rather ridiculous rule will only make a mockery of their competition. That is certainly my own personal initial reaction to hearing this.

To restrict the images aspect ratio for the benefit of viewing via a website seems, well, just plain silly. 

Nick Jardine.

www.limitedskin.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ausdlk" <ausdlk@...> wrote:
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>
> The orientation of the ACP home page slide show is horizontal.
> 
> Vertical images this space turn out to be very small. Square images have large margins on either side.
> 
> We want the flow of the slide show to be consistently horizontal -- both for photographs and for announcements.
> 
> It's not that we think vertical or square photographs are in any way bad, they just don't fit our current format.
> 
> We'll have other competitions in the future that do not have this restriction.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Sharpe <asharpe@> wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> > 
> > The submission guidelines includes this statement: "Only horizontal
> > (landscape) orientation photographs are accepted".
> > 
> > What an odd requirement! Many of my photographs are in portrait and
> > square format. Is the format such an important consideration to
> > *disallow* anything but landscape?
> > 
> > Please explain this strange restriction.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > [ for those of you on the QTR email list, sorry for the crosspost ]
> > 
> > On 08/03/2009 10:15 AM, ausdlk wrote:
> > >  
> > > 
> > > TheAustin Center for Photography is pleased to issue a Call For
> > > Entriesfor its Home Page Photo Contest No.2. This contest is free to
> > > ACP members,is open to all photographers, amateur and pro, is not
> > > themed, and isfor black & white photographs only.
> > > 
> > > To read the Official Call for Entries, click here
> > > <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/
> > > <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/>> .
> > > 
> > > This contest is made for black and white photographers! Get your entries
> > > in soon.
> > > .
> > > Dave.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 2009 PAW Gallery: www.david-keenan.com/paw
> > > <http://www.david-keenan.com/paw <http://www.david-keenan.com/paw>>
> > > Web Site: www.david-keenan.com <http://www.david-keenan.com/
> > > <http://www.david-keenan.com/>>
> > > Austin Center for Photography: www.visitacp.org
> > > <http://www.visitacp.org/ <http://www.visitacp.org/>> -- Check it out!!!
> > > ACP Blog: www.visitacp.org/blog <http://www.visitacp.org/blog
> > > <http://www.visitacp.org/blog>> --
> > > New!!!
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > 
> > >
> >
>

Re: Matte paper with Adhesive back

2009-08-05 by Seth Rossman

Most of the on-line label companies have this.  They call it bumper 
sticker stock.  In both laser and inkjet.

Search data labels.

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Re: Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-06 by ausdlk

I am astonished about the negative vibes coming from out on this forum and others because of the horizontal orientation limitation of the ACP home page contest.

Some of the comments seem to imply some kind of artistic censorship is being imposed on the photographic community.

I wonder how many people doing the complaining have visited the ACP web site, seen the home page slide show, and read the submission guidelines, and clicked the "Why?" button for an explanation of this limitation.

C'mon people, ACP is looking for very specifically oriented  photographs for a specific role on the home page of the web site. It will be national and international exposure for five photographers.

If you have something to submit then please do so. If your best work doesn't meet the horizontal requirements then it is hardly the end of the world. There are other competitions, for crying out loud.

Dave. 




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "nickskin0" <nick@...> wrote:
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>
> Only allowing a 'landscape' format is certainly an interesting decision to make, and judging by the reaction of some posts, probably not that well received. I wonder if the competition organisers aren't worried that this, in my view, rather ridiculous rule will only make a mockery of their competition. That is certainly my own personal initial reaction to hearing this.
> 
> To restrict the images aspect ratio for the benefit of viewing via a website seems, well, just plain silly. 
> 
> Nick Jardine.
> 
> www.limitedskin.com
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "ausdlk" <ausdlk@> wrote:
> >
> > The orientation of the ACP home page slide show is horizontal.
> > 
> > Vertical images this space turn out to be very small. Square images have large margins on either side.
> > 
> > We want the flow of the slide show to be consistently horizontal -- both for photographs and for announcements.
> > 
> > It's not that we think vertical or square photographs are in any way bad, they just don't fit our current format.
> > 
> > We'll have other competitions in the future that do not have this restriction.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Sharpe <asharpe@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > > 
> > > The submission guidelines includes this statement: "Only horizontal
> > > (landscape) orientation photographs are accepted".
> > > 
> > > What an odd requirement! Many of my photographs are in portrait and
> > > square format. Is the format such an important consideration to
> > > *disallow* anything but landscape?
> > > 
> > > Please explain this strange restriction.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Andrew
> > > 
> > > [ for those of you on the QTR email list, sorry for the crosspost ]
> > > 
> > > On 08/03/2009 10:15 AM, ausdlk wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > TheAustin Center for Photography is pleased to issue a Call For
> > > > Entriesfor its Home Page Photo Contest No.2. This contest is free to
> > > > ACP members,is open to all photographers, amateur and pro, is not
> > > > themed, and isfor black & white photographs only.
> > > > 
> > > > To read the Official Call for Entries, click here
> > > > <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/
> > > > <http://www.visitacp.org/callforentries/>> .
> > > > 
> > > > This contest is made for black and white photographers! Get your entries
> > > > in soon.
> > > > .
> > > > Dave.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > 2009 PAW Gallery: www.david-keenan.com/paw
> > > > <http://www.david-keenan.com/paw <http://www.david-keenan.com/paw>>
> > > > Web Site: www.david-keenan.com <http://www.david-keenan.com/
> > > > <http://www.david-keenan.com/>>
> > > > Austin Center for Photography: www.visitacp.org
> > > > <http://www.visitacp.org/ <http://www.visitacp.org/>> -- Check it out!!!
> > > > ACP Blog: www.visitacp.org/blog <http://www.visitacp.org/blog
> > > > <http://www.visitacp.org/blog>> --
> > > > New!!!
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2

2009-08-06 by Mark Savoia

I asked this before, are there any $ prizes or a real exhibition  
someplace? Is that in there someplace I missed?

Mark
http://www.stillrivereditions.com
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On Aug 6, 2009, at 2:09 PM, ausdlk wrote:

> I am astonished about the negative vibes coming from out on this  
> forum and others because of the horizontal orientation limitation of  
> the ACP home page contest.
>
> Some of the comments seem to imply some kind of artistic censorship  
> is being imposed on the photographic community.
>
> I wonder how many people doing the complaining have visited the ACP  
> web site, seen the home page slide show, and read the submission  
> guidelines, and clicked the "Why?" button for an explanation of this  
> limitation.
>
> C'mon people, ACP is looking for very specifically oriented   
> photographs for a specific role on the home page of the web site. It  
> will be national and international exposure for five photographers.
>
> If you have something to submit then please do so. If your best work  
> doesn't meet the horizontal requirements then it is hardly the end  
> of the world. There are other competitions, for crying out loud.
>
> Dave.
>

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