Digital BW, The Print

It looks like MIS is going to sell the appropriate "EZ" B&W carts for the WorkForce 1100 13" printer.  

See http://www.inksupply.com/currentpromo.cfm for the MIS promo.

See http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63084675 for the Epson printer info.

I think the 1400 is a much more flexible platform, but the 1100 with a CIS would probably be the easiest 13" printer to support and maintain -- only 2 inks are needed, a black and one midtone.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

pr_roark schreef:
> It looks like MIS is going to sell the appropriate "EZ" B&W carts for the WorkForce 1100 13" printer.  
> 
> See http://www.inksupply.com/currentpromo.cfm for the MIS promo.
> 
> See http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63084675 for the Epson printer info.
> 
> I think the 1400 is a much more flexible platform, but the 1100 with a CIS would probably be the easiest 13" printer to support and maintain -- only 2 inks are needed, a black and one midtone.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 

Paul,

I do not get the "only 2 inks are needed, a black and one midtone".

This is a 3 picoliter droplet printer. Is that small enough for 2 inks?
Would you exchange all the CMY carts with the midtone or exchange one of 
the black heads with midtone?
Are the two black channels driven individually then?

I still eye some HP desktop office models with auto dual sided for an A3 
quad conversion. And the Designjet 10-130 range. And the Epson B500DN 
and B300. But they all fall within the 3-5 picoliter droplet category 
and have no QTR support. If converted they should have a quad set in my 
opinion and curves/profile is the only way to drive them then.

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Ernst Dinkla <edinkla@...> wrote:

> I do not get the "only 2 inks are needed, a black and one midtone".
> 
> This is a 3 picoliter droplet printer. Is that small enough 
> for 2 inks?

Yes -- for most people.  The "EZ" density is a bit less than an LK, but more than an LLK.  Most MIS EZ buyers just use the driver sliders to control the inkset.  It'll print smoother if one staggers the starting points of the inks.  ICCs (made with QTR's Create ICC-RGB) can do this and profile the printer easily for those who want more.

> Would you exchange all the CMY carts with the midtone or 
> exchange one of the black heads with midtone?

The CMY would be the single EZ midtone.  Both black heads probably have to have a black ink in them.  I'm guessing the second black head is used only in high speed modes, but I've never seen much on the printer.  

> Are the two black channels driven individually then?

I'm not sure how they are set up.

As a practical matter, most of the people on this forum would find the 1400 a better, more flexible printer, but MIS sells a lot of the EZ B&W setups.  

I use C88+ printers with CIS and EZ type mixes for both my daughters in college.  They go the year with no maintenance or bother.  One of them has the EZ Carbon-6 (Eboni at 13.5%), and should be agitating the CIS.  I doubt she does.  For the other I mixed an EZ with the generic C6 base but used MIS PK at 20%.  It stays in suspension extremely well -- better than the Epson equivalents according to my centrifuge tests.  The MIS particle appears to be smaller -- it's warmer.  When diluted with C6, the MIS PK is not glossy compatible, as the gloss in MIS inks comes from the glop base.

Note that one could make a 20% HP PK EZ with the C6 base that would be neutral and glossy compatible (with lots of bronzing).

Note also that the MIS EZ-Warm is 100% carbon and, with glossy paper, makes the same "sepia" tones I'm going into with the 2010 version of my ink mixes.  I'm basically just adding an MIS LK (and LLK in the 7800) to the existing Eboni/Carbon-6 + HP-PK mixes.  The PK will remain HP PK.  (Delta-e of 0.2 at the 100% black point and 90 MLux-Hrs of Aardenburg Imaging testing -- hard to beat that.)  I've put samples of the image tones on my BW Info page at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/ 

One reason for my direction is that our local museum is having celebrating the town's centennial (a group of Danes formed the town of Solvang in 1911) with special exhibits in 2011.  The lead-off art exhibit will be half composed of the digital restorations I've done for the museum, printed in "sepia" tone with the MIS carbon inks on Crane Museo Silver Rag. 

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

> pr_roark schreef:
> > It looks like MIS is going to sell the appropriate "EZ" 
> > B&W carts for the WorkForce 1100 13" printer.  
> > ...

I mentioned before that a 20% mix of HP Z3100 PK with C6 generic base makes a nice neutral, glossy compatible "EZ" type of ink.  I've been experimenting with using MIS glop as a base to reduce the bronzing that the dilute HP inks suffer from (whether C6 or HP dilution).  I think a good compromise is a base of 50% MIS glop and 50% c6 base.  That keeps the price down and largely eliminates the bronzing.  There are still going to be some reflective artifacts, but not nearly what you'd get from the HP inks themselves or the c6 dilutions.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

> It looks like MIS is going to sell the appropriate "EZ" B&W carts for the WorkForce 1100 13" printer.  
> 
> See http://www.inksupply.com/currentpromo.cfm for the MIS promo.
> 
> See http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63084675 for the Epson printer info.
>

Hi Paul,
When is this Solvang Centennial celebration?
Would there be a chance of meeting you?

Thanks
Mike J.


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Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson WorkForce 1100 -- 13" EZ

Ernst Dinkla <edinkla@...> wrote:

> I do not get the "only 2 inks are needed, a black and one midtone".
>
> This is a 3 picoliter droplet printer. Is that small enough
> for 2 inks?

Yes -- for most people.  The "EZ" density is a bit less than an LK, but more
than an LLK.  Most MIS EZ buyers just use the driver sliders to control the
inkset.  It'll print smoother if one staggers the starting points of the
inks.  ICCs (made with QTR's Create ICC-RGB) can do this and profile the
printer easily for those who want more.

> Would you exchange all the CMY carts with the midtone or
> exchange one of the black heads with midtone?

The CMY would be the single EZ midtone.  Both black heads probably have to
have a black ink in them.  I'm guessing the second black head is used only
in high speed modes, but I've never seen much on the printer.

> Are the two black channels driven individually then?

I'm not sure how they are set up.

As a practical matter, most of the people on this forum would find the 1400
a better, more flexible printer, but MIS sells a lot of the EZ B&W setups.

I use C88+ printers with CIS and EZ type mixes for both my daughters in
college.  They go the year with no maintenance or bother.  One of them has
the EZ Carbon-6 (Eboni at 13.5%), and should be agitating the CIS.  I doubt
she does.  For the other I mixed an EZ with the generic C6 base but used MIS
PK at 20%.  It stays in suspension extremely well -- better than the Epson
equivalents according to my centrifuge tests.  The MIS particle appears to
be smaller -- it's warmer.  When diluted with C6, the MIS PK is not glossy
compatible, as the gloss in MIS inks comes from the glop base.

Note that one could make a 20% HP PK EZ with the C6 base that would be
neutral and glossy compatible (with lots of bronzing).

Note also that the MIS EZ-Warm is 100% carbon and, with glossy paper, makes
the same "sepia" tones I'm going into with the 2010 version of my ink mixes.
I'm basically just adding an MIS LK (and LLK in the 7800) to the existing
Eboni/Carbon-6 + HP-PK mixes.  The PK will remain HP PK.  (Delta-e of 0.2 at
the 100% black point and 90 MLux-Hrs of Aardenburg Imaging testing -- hard
to beat that.)  I've put samples of the image tones on my BW Info page at
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/

One reason for my direction is that our local museum is having celebrating
the town's centennial (a group of Danes formed the town of Solvang in 1911)
with special exhibits in 2011.  The lead-off art exhibit will be half
composed of the digital restorations I've done for the museum, printed in
"sepia" tone with the MIS carbon inks on Crane Museo Silver Rag.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

> pr_roark schreef:
> > It looks like MIS is going to sell the appropriate "EZ"
> > B&W carts for the WorkForce 1100 13" printer.
> > ...

"Mike Johnston" <wpajohnson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
> When is this Solvang Centennial celebration? ...

There are going to be various things going on all year in 2011.  I'm actually not sure if they have a specific date.  For the exhibit I'll be printing for, I think we'll have the first 3 months of the year.

I'm usually in the area.  There has been some discussion of a workshop somewhat connected to the exhibit, but I'm not sure if that'll happen.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com