yeah, it's annoying that there's a paucity of youtube vids of doepfer modules, i'm coming to the end of a few projects so i might procrastinate by bunging some up myself soon, will make sure to focus on the magic of the a112. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Korhan Erel" <listekutusu@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > I agree that knobs rule over plugins (even though I control mine with knobs > :-), but I have a limited budget and space and would like to spend it on > "analog" stuff than bitcrushers. A-112 is definitely interesting, but I'd > like to see it in action first - which is impossible here in Turkey. I > should go to Berlin sometime. > > Best, > > Korhan > > On 3/3/08, partlydrone <partlydrone@...> wrote: > > > > "The digital modules (A112 and the bitcrushers) are interesting, but > > they are easily done within the computer" > > > > although i have some sympathy with this view, the same could be said > > of filters and all that, realistically. > > > > although there are endless debates to be had about sound quality, to > > my mind the key difference between noddling on screen with plugins, > > and noodling in the basement with boxes knobs and wires, is the > > different way of working, the different varieties of serendipitous > > discoveries, the different workflows which can be better or worse for > > spontaneous playing around, and so on. > > > > so i would still say that digital modules are a good idea. remember > > too that we are talking about high church hipster 8bit digital crud > > modules, in the harvestman and a112 stuff. not waves plugins. > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, > > "Korhan Erel" <listekutusu@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thank you very much partlydrone, stu and florian! The instrument I > > have in > > > mind is indeed a bass clarinet, which is played wonderfully by a > > friend of > > > mine. But I would like to use this setup with other instruments, such as > > > electric guitar, tenor saxophone or even vocals. I play in a free > > > improvisation group and would like to use the modules there (I > > normally use > > > Audiomulch to create sounds and process instruments) > > > > > > I guess the BBD is definitely on the shopping list now. So is the > > A-137 - > > > I'll have to ask Schneidersbuero if they would go for a swap. > > > > > > The digital modules (A112 and the bitcrushers) are interesting, but > > they are > > > easily done within the computer (including CV control with Pluggo by > > Cycling > > > 74). I would like to keep this process as analog as possible. > > > > > > The phaser was only interesting for the CV input, but it's not on > > the list > > > anymore. > > > > > > I wanted the noise/random module for the random part, but I am open > > to other > > > suggestions. > > > > > > Florian, can you please elaborate on the use of A160,161 or the > > A151. I am > > > totally unfamiliar with these modules and cannot imagine how I could use > > > them in my setup. An example that contains some of the modules mentioned > > > here would be very useful. > > > > > > What would happen if an instrument, a clarinet or tenor sax, is fed > > directly > > > into a PLL? You can assume that the instrumentalists are virtuosos > > and can > > > play whatever is required. I am looking for radical changes - I > > would prefer > > > terrible pitch tracking to very good pitch tracking. > > > > > > I can already use the Quad LFO as an oscillator, but would like to > > modulate > > > the frequency and hence want the A-110. Envelope out from A-119 > > would be a > > > nice modulation source for the A-110, I guess. > > > > > > The S&H is the A-148.Slew limiters are 170 and 171. 170 has two, 171 > > has CV > > > control. Which one should I get? I'm usually a numbers guy and > > assume 2 is > > > better than 1. > > > > > > I do have one Multiplier. > > > > > > Thanks once more! I have already a much better idea. I'll try to put all > > > your suggestions together and see what comes out (in functionality > > and in > > > Euros) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Korhan > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/2/08, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Korhan > > > > > > > > > I use these modules to process instruments as well as for sound > > design > > > > > (using the LFOs as oscillators). I have been planning to expand this > > > > > system to process acoustic instruments during live performance, > > and I > > > > > consider the following modules: > > > > > > > > > > A-106 Xtreme Filter > > > > > A-110 VCO > > > > > A-114 Ring Mod > > > > > A-118 Noise/Random > > > > > A-125 Phaser > > > > > A-127 VC Triple Res. Filter > > > > > A-175 Dual Inverter > > > > > A-188-1 BBD (1024) > > > > > A-196 PLL > > > > > > > > > What can it > > > > > do to a bass clarinet plugged into it? > > > > OK, I assume your instrument is woodwind (bass clarinet, but maybe > > > > others like saxophon). > > > > > > > > So my definite recommendation is: > > > > A-188 any BBD (which one is matter of taste) not for flanger, but for > > > > standing resonances, karplusstrong stuff... > > > > > > > > A-137 Waveshaper. This is a MUST for a monophonic acoustic > > instrument. I > > > > do not know whether you work already with some kind of distortion, but > > > > this one goes far beyond all you could think until now about > > distortion. > > > > And while the most synth audio modules require very constant > > sound, the > > > > waveshaper shows its real pwoer with dynamic input material from > > ppp to > > > > fff. > > > > > > > > A-114 as Ring modulator is very nice, but it is only one single sound, > > > > which could be achived very similar also by audiomodulation of a > > filter > > > > or VCA. > > > > > > > > A-106 with a clearinet I'd go instead for the A-101-1. > > > > > > > > The A-196 can(!) be very interesting with an clarinet, but don't be > > > > disappointed, if you find, that it is too extreme. If you want the > > > > original PLL usage (transpose frequencies), then a guitar stompbox > > or a > > > > Boss RPS10 might be interesting too. > > > > > > > > A-110 is ok (but modify it so you can tune it through the full range > > > > witht he pot) > > > > > > > > Cancel the A-127 you already have two filters, you don't need this. > > > > > > > > Cancel the A-125, and get instead a used guitar stompbox. > > > > > > > > instead: more CV sources which make your play vivid: > > > > -> Get a Sample and Hold and a Slew Limiter, i think there is a AS > > combi > > > > module. > > > > > > > > Some kind of analogue sequencer, not the A155, but maybe a > > A160/161 or a > > > > A151 plus a mixer. > > > > > > > > Trigger them by the gate out from the 119, and each note will have a > > > > different sound. > > > > > > > > finally: you will be in need of multiples. So don't forget them. > > > > > > > > Florian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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Re: Modules for acoustic instrument processing
2008-03-03 by partlydrone
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