Doepfer

Argitoth is right, no need to rush. A good starting point is

http://mega.modularplanner.co.uk/standard.html

There you have all current manufacturers for the eurorack-format in one comprehensive package. And you definitely should get a multiple.

However


"I heard that some people like to remove the spring from the Doepfer
joystick as it doesn't return back to its center with the spring... it
returns a bit off center which would be gay in my opinion."

Never heard of that. Mine works fine for the best part of this decade. And I have an unsprung one as well.

"You definitely don't want to spend money on the cheapest VCO (doepfer
A-110) as you'd be getting the least bang for buck."

This kind of sentiment always struck me as a bit strange. It seems to be an article of faith amongst the cognoscenti that the A-110 is an inferior product. It is not considering the price-point. My impression was that the OP had a budget of USD 2k. Sure there are other oscillators but getting two good ones for USD 400? That also track very well over a wide range? And hold their tuning no matter what, over days if need be?

Debates over oscillators are superseded in subjective POV only by filter-battles and I don't want to get into that. Just dislike the habitual bashing of a very competent product. Below are the OSCs I can think of: together with their prices:

Doepfer A-110                    200,-
Doepfer A-111                    350,-        Triangle core
Tip-Top Z-3000                  250,-
Analogue Solutions              185,-
Cwejman VCO 2RM          640,-        2 VCOs + RingMod
Cwejman VCO 6                425,-
Cyindustries Zeroscillator     995,-
Metasonix TM 3                 550,-        2 OSCs, not much tracking but...mmmh! Eric Barbour is God.
MFB OSC 1                      220,-        3 DCOs
MFB OSC 2                      299,-        3 VCOs
Plan B Model 15                320           Triangle core
Analogue Systems RS95     240,-
Livewire Dalek VCO          260,-        VCO + RingMod
Livewire AFG                     399,-        

Best

York  



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From: Argitoth <argitoth@gmail.com>
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:57:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] starting a modular


I would suggest Tip Top Audio VCOs (which I don't own):
http://www.analogue haven.com/ tiptopaudio/ z3000/

You definitely don't want to spend money on the cheapest VCO (doepfer
A-110) as you'd be getting the least bang for buck.

I heard that some people like to remove the spring from the Doepfer
joystick as it doesn't return back to its center with the spring... it
returns a bit off center which would be gay in my opinion.

OK! YOU REALLLLLLY HAVE TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THIS: Really think
about how you are going to handle mixing/merging, inverting, and
splitting/multiplyi ng, and attenuating signals. Some modules have
multiple ins and multiple outs, some modules can attenuate, some
modules can't, etc. There are many options for signal routing modules.
I personally think the best way to go it to get mixing/merging modules
that don't have attenuation knobs and get one or two dedicated
attenuation modules. The reason for this is that most of the time, a
module's input has an attenuator. Signal Mixers and Multipliers that
have multiple ins/outs generally don't have attenuation knobs, but
they are extremely useful.

http://www.noisebug .net/site/ analoguesolution s/index.cfm? id=10
http://www.noisebug .net/site/ analoguesolution s/index.cfm? id=21
http://www.noisebug .net/site/ planb/index. cfm?id=24
http://www.noisebug .net/site/ planb/index. cfm?id=18

You need one signal multiplier that is buffered (low signal
degradation when multiplying a signal) so that you can route 1v/oct
signals to multiple oscillators, filters, and whatever else. The MX224
is not good enough for some reason, but it's GREAT for general
purposes. I have a Plan B Model 31 Buffered Multi in the mail so I'll
see if that is any better.

An A-138c is a very useful mixer because it can invert a signal by any
amount. By the way, signal inversion is one way to make filters
distort and scream.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM, york luethje <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> you could substitute the A-143-2 and A-143-3 with a A-143-1. It gives you
> four independent AD envelopes or 4 independent LFOs or a complex envelope,
> depending on mode. You should definitely think about adding some VCAs, for
> example the A-132 dual VCA.
>
> York
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Sean Hart <dubvegan@yahoo. com>
> To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:15:34 PM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] starting a modular
>
> fortunately and unfortunately, i have a friend that has a buchla 200.
> furtunately, because i get to play it when i visit him. unfurtunately,
> because it makes me want an analogue modular ($$$). i would most
> likely have to build it a little at a time, but i am thinking:
>
> A-110 Standard VCO x 2
> A-114 Dual Ringmodulator
> A-121 Multimode Filter (VCF2)
> A-138b Mixer
> A-143-2 Quad ADSR
> A-143-3 Quad LFO
> A-174 Joy Stick
> A-190 MIDI-to-CV/Gate/ Sync Interface
> A-100 Low Cost Suitcase
>
> which would be just under $2000 (still a decent chunk of money) and i
> would still need cables. are there any more options for more
> economical modules? and yes, i would continue to buy more modules and
> i know that it is something that i would spend, in the long term,
> ridiculous amounts of money on.
>
> comments? suggestions? anything you are selling to help me bring the
> initial cost down?
>
> thanks,
> sean
>
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>
> 

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