I don't think anyone is advocating that VCOs should produce a "perfect" sine. Just simply a clean wave what has no audible buzz or distortion. That 's what defines a sine - just the fundamental component. Anything else is NOT A SINE WAVE. It seems either ignorant, sloppy or misleading for a manufacturer to intentionally make a buzzy wave and then spec it as "sine" wave. At the very least label it something more accurate like "buzzy wave beta testers like" ;-) You can always start with a clean sine and add distortion as needed, but you can't go the other way and cleanly remove the buzz to get a decent sine. I'm guessing those rationalizing against the usefulness of clean sine waves for music synthesis have never even used one (since nobody seems to make them anymore...). --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark@...> wrote: > > > Hi James; > > Tiptop didn't set out to make a perfect sine - in fact, one of the > things that the testers talked about during beta was just how > wonderful this sine _sounds_. I agree that I wouldn't use this sine as > a LFO source for the perfect panner or some-such, but you really > should hear this one in a track. > > And to that point, the sound of this module (specifically the sine) > doesn't have as much to do with the sine itself, but how the VCO gets > you between pitches. :) That's what you really wanna hear. > > I (and I figure most of us here) have a LOT of VCOs in their system. > They each have their place, and sometimes many places. The Tiptop has > created it's niche too. :) > > Mark > ----- > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted <ersatzplanet@> > wrote: > > > > I was hot for the Tiptop VCO till I saw this video made about it. > > - http://vimeo.com/2206614 > > That is one of the worst sine waves I've seen and the spectrum display > > shows many harmonics that shouldn't be there. I count at least 7 on > > the spectrum display. >
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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?
2008-11-25 by laryn91
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