Doepfer

Are there audible harmonics in addition to the fundamental?


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pulver <mark@...> wrote:
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> Ummm, there's nothing "buzzy" about the sine in the Z3000. I think that 
> word was being used in the thread for another VCO.
> 
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> laryn91 (09:34 AM 11/25/2008) wrote:
>  >I don't think anyone is advocating that VCOs should produce a "perfect" 
> sine.
>  >Just simply a clean wave what has no audible buzz or distortion. That 's
>  >what defines a
>  >sine - just the fundamental component. Anything else is NOT A SINE WAVE.
>  >
>  >It seems either ignorant, sloppy or misleading for a manufacturer to
>  >intentionally make a
>  >buzzy wave and then spec it as "sine" wave. At the very least label it
>  >something more
>  >accurate like "buzzy wave beta testers like" ;-)
>  >
>  >You can always start with a clean sine and add distortion as needed, but you
>  >can't go the
>  >other way and cleanly remove the buzz  to get a decent sine. I'm guessing
>  >those
>  >rationalizing against the usefulness of clean sine waves for music synthesis
>  >have never
>  >even used one (since nobody seems to make them anymore...).
>  >
>  >
>  >--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark@> wrote:
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>  >>
>  >> Hi James;
>  >>
>  >> Tiptop didn't set out to make a perfect sine - in fact, one of the
>  >> things that the testers talked about during beta was just how
>  >> wonderful this sine _sounds_. I agree that I wouldn't use this sine as
>  >> a LFO source for the perfect panner or some-such, but you really
>  >> should hear this one in a track.
>  >>
>  >> And to that point, the sound of this module (specifically the sine)
>  >> doesn't have as much to do with the sine itself, but how the VCO gets
>  >> you between pitches. :) That's what you really wanna hear.
>  >>
>  >> I (and I figure most of us here) have a LOT of VCOs in their system.
>  >> They each have their place, and sometimes many places. The Tiptop has
>  >> created it's niche too. :)
>  >>
>  >> Mark
>  >> -----
>  >> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted <ersatzplanet@>
>  >> wrote:
>  >> >
>  >> > I was hot for the Tiptop VCO till I saw this video made about it.
>  >> > -     http://vimeo.com/2206614
>  >> > That is one of the worst sine waves I've seen and the spectrum display
>  >> > shows many harmonics that shouldn't be there. I count at least 7 on
>  >> > the spectrum display.
>  >>
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