Doepfer

I don't know, Andreas.  I really don't know how you come to these
conclusions.  My feeling is that, if anything, the A-154 makes the A-155
better and more valuable and makes people with A-155s want more of them, and
people without A-155s to crave them.

The idea that the A-155 has too much in it is strange to me.  If anything,
I'd like it to have another row of pots, a switchable step-skip function, a
switchable reset function (rather than using up a trigger), and a built-in
VC clock.  I'm delighted with what the A-154 is adding to it, and I could
absolutely care less that a couple of inches of stuff on the A-155 won't be
in use when in conjunction with the A-154.  The kinds of purely modular
discrete sequencing functions you want are available from Analogue Solutions
already, and may be worth a look for you.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Lindholm [mailto:andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 3:54 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: a154 ideas
>
>
> Wether it is a big deal or not doesn't really concern me here. I think you
> guys are beeing unessecary defensive, it almost reads out to me
> that you are
> selling off your a155s and don't want them to drop in value or
> something. I
> was just adressing this from a point of curiosity since I am about to blow
> off the dust from my a100 and start making some music again and perhaps
> expand it with a couple of switches. The a155 has always struck me as too
> much in one box. On the other hand I find the a154 more to my
> liking. But in
> the end of it all it is just a matter of personal taste.
>
> Hey it's about music in the end, one mans crap and off tune
> singing is loved
> by millions of Swedes and hated by just as many, there is no
> right or wrong
> =)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Husted" <james@ersatzplanet.com>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: a154 ideas
>
>
> > On 2/8/03 11:19 AM, "ps_minor <pscottm@hotmail.com>"
> <pscottm@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "James Husted"
> > > <james@e...> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I agree with this 100%. The idea of having the section of the
> > > a155 not being
> > >> used is troublesome.
> > >
> > >
> > > well, i see your point but unless i'm mistaken, looking at my
> > > a155, only 4 sockets will be disabled by connecting to an a154,
> > > (start, stop, clock, and reset).  what's the big deal?
> > >
> > > imho, the amount of space wasted by adding a 154 to a 155 is
> > > negligible, 2 sq inches (approx 14 sq cm) of face plate area..
> > > was curious so i measured.   to me, the new gains of adding an
> > > a154 far outweigh this loss.
> >
> > I'm thinking more of electronics not being used. The electronics that
> > convert these inputs are not necessary if an external counter module is
> > used. These cost money. I think the A155 without the added unused
> > electronics that make up it's clock/reset circuitry and pcb would be
> cheaper
> > to make. Jacks and switches and the labor to mount them all
> cost more than
> > they do for just raw parts. Holes alone cost money. I used to design
> > metalwork for a pro audio company and every punch cost money, especially
> at
> > low quantities. The cost of the jacks a switches alone must be
> a couple of
> > dollars. Just look at the cost of a A180 or A181 and they have no
> > electronics.
> > >
> > > i think the a100 as a whole is a marvel of features-per-sq-inch
> > > as it is, so this loss of 4 sockets on one module (only when
> > > combined w an expander module) is not a problem.
> > >
> > > however, if this issue caused loss of potential HP space i may
> > > think differently.
> > >
> > > the way i see it, shortening the a155 to do away w the unused
> > > control section will not give you any HP space.  the glide ouputs
> > > and s&h outputs are positioned right below the would-be 'dead'
> > > control section.
> >
> > As far as space is concerned, remove these 4 jacks. Move the
> scale, glide
> > and range blocks down, move the trigger outputs above the glide
> pots, turn
> > the jacks for the glide/scale blocks into a single row and you have
> > shortened the unit by the width of the last row of jacks and start stop
> etc.
> > switches. But this is not the point anyway, I said to leave this unit
> alone
> > and still sell it as is. I suggest to make a *new* pot bank modules with
> > different layouts, 4 rows of pots (a 4x8 and a 2x16 version?)
> three rows,
> 16
> > . And a trigger module with 4 or more rows of toggle switches
> in a *much*
> > narrower module (so you can do 32 beat patterns). Things like this. I've
> > heard talk of the A154, but nothing of other versions of the A155.
> >
> > -James
> >
> > --
> > James Husted
> > The ErsatZ Planet Graphics & Sound
> > james@ersatzplanet.com
> > www.ersatzplanet.com
> >
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