Doepfer

Yes, AS make some very good modules, and some that are way too huge for me
too ;)

Well... it wasn't so much a conclusion as a feeling that I got really. I am
glad you like the features since you have the a155 and will use it.




----- Original Message -----
From: "unknown freak" <cgraef@nyc.rr.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: a154 ideas


> I don't know, Andreas.  I really don't know how you come to these
> conclusions.  My feeling is that, if anything, the A-154 makes the A-155
> better and more valuable and makes people with A-155s want more of them,
and
> people without A-155s to crave them.
>
> The idea that the A-155 has too much in it is strange to me.  If anything,
> I'd like it to have another row of pots, a switchable step-skip function,
a
> switchable reset function (rather than using up a trigger), and a built-in
> VC clock.  I'm delighted with what the A-154 is adding to it, and I could
> absolutely care less that a couple of inches of stuff on the A-155 won't
be
> in use when in conjunction with the A-154.  The kinds of purely modular
> discrete sequencing functions you want are available from Analogue
Solutions
> already, and may be worth a look for you.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andreas Lindholm [mailto:andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 3:54 PM
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: a154 ideas
> >
> >
> > Wether it is a big deal or not doesn't really concern me here. I think
you
> > guys are beeing unessecary defensive, it almost reads out to me
> > that you are
> > selling off your a155s and don't want them to drop in value or
> > something. I
> > was just adressing this from a point of curiosity since I am about to
blow
> > off the dust from my a100 and start making some music again and perhaps
> > expand it with a couple of switches. The a155 has always struck me as
too
> > much in one box. On the other hand I find the a154 more to my
> > liking. But in
> > the end of it all it is just a matter of personal taste.
> >
> > Hey it's about music in the end, one mans crap and off tune
> > singing is loved
> > by millions of Swedes and hated by just as many, there is no
> > right or wrong
> > =)
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James Husted" <james@ersatzplanet.com>
> > To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: a154 ideas
> >
> >
> > > On 2/8/03 11:19 AM, "ps_minor <pscottm@hotmail.com>"
> > <pscottm@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "James Husted"
> > > > <james@e...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree with this 100%. The idea of having the section of the
> > > > a155 not being
> > > >> used is troublesome.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > well, i see your point but unless i'm mistaken, looking at my
> > > > a155, only 4 sockets will be disabled by connecting to an a154,
> > > > (start, stop, clock, and reset).  what's the big deal?
> > > >
> > > > imho, the amount of space wasted by adding a 154 to a 155 is
> > > > negligible, 2 sq inches (approx 14 sq cm) of face plate area..
> > > > was curious so i measured.   to me, the new gains of adding an
> > > > a154 far outweigh this loss.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking more of electronics not being used. The electronics that
> > > convert these inputs are not necessary if an external counter module
is
> > > used. These cost money. I think the A155 without the added unused
> > > electronics that make up it's clock/reset circuitry and pcb would be
> > cheaper
> > > to make. Jacks and switches and the labor to mount them all
> > cost more than
> > > they do for just raw parts. Holes alone cost money. I used to design
> > > metalwork for a pro audio company and every punch cost money,
especially
> > at
> > > low quantities. The cost of the jacks a switches alone must be
> > a couple of
> > > dollars. Just look at the cost of a A180 or A181 and they have no
> > > electronics.
> > > >
> > > > i think the a100 as a whole is a marvel of features-per-sq-inch
> > > > as it is, so this loss of 4 sockets on one module (only when
> > > > combined w an expander module) is not a problem.
> > > >
> > > > however, if this issue caused loss of potential HP space i may
> > > > think differently.
> > > >
> > > > the way i see it, shortening the a155 to do away w the unused
> > > > control section will not give you any HP space.  the glide ouputs
> > > > and s&h outputs are positioned right below the would-be 'dead'
> > > > control section.
> > >
> > > As far as space is concerned, remove these 4 jacks. Move the
> > scale, glide
> > > and range blocks down, move the trigger outputs above the glide
> > pots, turn
> > > the jacks for the glide/scale blocks into a single row and you have
> > > shortened the unit by the width of the last row of jacks and start
stop
> > etc.
> > > switches. But this is not the point anyway, I said to leave this unit
> > alone
> > > and still sell it as is. I suggest to make a *new* pot bank modules
with
> > > different layouts, 4 rows of pots (a 4x8 and a 2x16 version?)
> > three rows,
> > 16
> > > . And a trigger module with 4 or more rows of toggle switches
> > in a *much*
> > > narrower module (so you can do 32 beat patterns). Things like this.
I've
> > > heard talk of the A154, but nothing of other versions of the A155.
> > >
> > > -James
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Husted
> > > The ErsatZ Planet Graphics & Sound
> > > james@ersatzplanet.com
> > > www.ersatzplanet.com
> > >
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