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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
Doepfer_a100 group:

Would you like Doepfer to release an Expansion module for all quantizers (hopefully including A-156) 
for creating scales and arpeggio's?

[A module that would probably contain 24 or 32 jack outputs (+ led's) 
that output only a certain step/value/note or whatever you want to 
call it in the current tuning, through all octaves. By selecting certain 
outputs you select steps/values in a scale. E.g. in 12-tet output 1 
only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#, output 3 only outputs d-
values etc. Each individual step/value can now be further processed, 
or certain steps can be grouped using multiples etc. 

For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave) it should be possible to 
'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or so) so you can even make 
different scales/pick out different combinations of notes in different 
octaves, which means you could do all kinds of arpeggio's, spanning 
perhaps 4-6 octaves.]
 

  o Yes! 
  o maybe... 
  o no. 


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Thanks!

I'm distinctly confused and dubious as to the utility value of such a
module.

 

--Chuck

 

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100

 


Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
Doepfer_a100 group:

Would you like Doepfer to release an Expansion module for all quantizers
(hopefully including A-156) 
for creating scales and arpeggio's?

[A module that would probably contain 24 or 32 jack outputs (+ led's) 
that output only a certain step/value/note or whatever you want to 
call it in the current tuning, through all octaves. By selecting certain 
outputs you select steps/values in a scale. E.g. in 12-tet output 1 
only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#, output 3 only outputs d-
values etc. Each individual step/value can now be further processed, 
or certain steps can be grouped using multiples etc. 

For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave) it should be possible to 
'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or so) so you can even make 
different scales/pick out different combinations of notes in different 
octaves, which means you could do all kinds of arpeggio's, spanning 
perhaps 4-6 octaves.]


  o Yes! 
  o maybe... 
  o no. 






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

maybe Anton can enlighten us with more details about
this proposed module and it's possible uses?
regards,
Bakis.




--- unknown freak <vogelscheiss@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm distinctly confused and dubious as to the
> utility value of such a
> module.
> 
>  
> 
> --Chuck
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created
> for the 
> Doepfer_a100 group:
> 
> Would you like Doepfer to release an Expansion
> module for all quantizers
> (hopefully including A-156) 
> for creating scales and arpeggio's?
> 
> [A module that would probably contain 24 or 32 jack
> outputs (+ led's) 
> that output only a certain step/value/note or
> whatever you want to 
> call it in the current tuning, through all octaves.
> By selecting certain 
> outputs you select steps/values in a scale. E.g. in
> 12-tet output 1 
> only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#, output 3
> only outputs d-
> values etc. Each individual step/value can now be
> further processed, 
> or certain steps can be grouped using multiples etc.
> 
> 
> For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave) it
> should be possible to 
> 'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or so) so
> you can even make 
> different scales/pick out different combinations of
> notes in different 
> octaves, which means you could do all kinds of
> arpeggio's, spanning 
> perhaps 4-6 octaves.]
> 
> 
>   o Yes! 
>   o maybe... 
>   o no. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 


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Hi Bakis,

Well, I guess that there are basically 2 uses for any quantizer 
(correct me if I'm wrong please) 

1. correcting/tuning the output from a sequencer
2. deriving note-sequences (melodies, arpeggio's) from any voltage 
source, like an lfo, adsr, noise, complex envelopes etc. etc 

If Chuck sees no use for a 'breakout box' for individual note-values, 
my guess would be that he uses a quantizer primarily to tune a 
sequencer. 

But I think quite a few people on this list have allready asked for 
something a little more sophisticated than the a-156, to be able to 
customise or finetune the scales, melodies, arpeggio's or whatever it 
is they want to derive from some dynamic voltage source.

I think a minimum option would be 12 cv-outputs for each of the 12 
values of the a-156, for building custom scales. Once you can get to 
these individual values, you could finetune them further with the high 
precision adder that's coming up? (Not sure about this) so that 
would even make it possible to create all kinds of tunings outside the 
12-tone equal temperament tuning (allthough this might cost a lot of 
modules)  

But also extra functionality for arpeggio's would be nice (this 
probably means more cv-outputs) and perhaps even an individual 
gate-output for each cv-output (like Joost is suggesting?) which 
might be very handy for all kinds of extended uses.   

Greetings,

Anton

On 15 May 2006, at 14:33, Bakis Sirros wrote:

> maybe Anton can enlighten us with more details about
> this proposed module and it's possible uses?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- unknown freak <vogelscheiss@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm distinctly confused and dubious as to the
> > utility value of such a
> > module.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > --Chuck
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:23 PM
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created
> > for the 
> > Doepfer_a100 group:
> > 
> > Would you like Doepfer to release an Expansion
> > module for all quantizers
> > (hopefully including A-156) 
> > for creating scales and arpeggio's?
> > 
> > [A module that would probably contain 24 or 32 jack
> > outputs (+ led's) 
> > that output only a certain step/value/note or
> > whatever you want to 
> > call it in the current tuning, through all octaves.
> > By selecting certain 
> > outputs you select steps/values in a scale. E.g. in
> > 12-tet output 1 
> > only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#, output 3
> > only outputs d-
> > values etc. Each individual step/value can now be
> > further processed, 
> > or certain steps can be grouped using multiples etc.
> > 
> > 
> > For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave) it
> > should be possible to 
> > 'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or so) so
> > you can even make 
> > different scales/pick out different combinations of
> > notes in different 
> > octaves, which means you could do all kinds of
> > arpeggio's, spanning 
> > perhaps 4-6 octaves.]
> > 
> > 
> >   o Yes! 
> >   o maybe... 
> >   o no. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
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hello anton,
thank you for the detailed explanation. i see that
such a module would be very usefull indeed.
something like this could be achived with the a152 in
combination with the a156 and a155. ]
but, the a152 has 8 cv outputs and 8 gate outs, not 12
at least, as the module you suggested. (if you connect
a common clock to the a155 and a152 and then connect
the a156 quantized cv out to the T & H input of the
a152, then you have 8 quantized cv outputs plus 8 gate
outputs from the a152). am i right?
regards,
Bakis.



--- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Hi Bakis,
> 
> Well, I guess that there are basically 2 uses for
> any quantizer 
> (correct me if I'm wrong please) 
> 
> 1. correcting/tuning the output from a sequencer
> 2. deriving note-sequences (melodies, arpeggio's)
> from any voltage 
> source, like an lfo, adsr, noise, complex envelopes
> etc. etc 
> 
> If Chuck sees no use for a 'breakout box' for
> individual note-values, 
> my guess would be that he uses a quantizer primarily
> to tune a 
> sequencer. 
> 
> But I think quite a few people on this list have
> allready asked for 
> something a little more sophisticated than the
> a-156, to be able to 
> customise or finetune the scales, melodies,
> arpeggio's or whatever it 
> is they want to derive from some dynamic voltage
> source.
> 
> I think a minimum option would be 12 cv-outputs for
> each of the 12 
> values of the a-156, for building custom scales.
> Once you can get to 
> these individual values, you could finetune them
> further with the high 
> precision adder that's coming up? (Not sure about
> this) so that 
> would even make it possible to create all kinds of
> tunings outside the 
> 12-tone equal temperament tuning (allthough this
> might cost a lot of 
> modules)  
> 
> But also extra functionality for arpeggio's would be
> nice (this 
> probably means more cv-outputs) and perhaps even an
> individual 
> gate-output for each cv-output (like Joost is
> suggesting?) which 
> might be very handy for all kinds of extended uses. 
>  
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Anton
> 
> 
> On 15 May 2006, at 14:33, Bakis Sirros wrote:
> 
> > maybe Anton can enlighten us with more details
> about
> > this proposed module and it's possible uses?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- unknown freak <vogelscheiss@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm distinctly confused and dubious as to the
> > > utility value of such a
> > > module.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > --Chuck
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   _____  
> > > 
> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] 
> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:23 PM
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for
> Doepfer_a100
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been
> created
> > > for the 
> > > Doepfer_a100 group:
> > > 
> > > Would you like Doepfer to release an Expansion
> > > module for all quantizers
> > > (hopefully including A-156) 
> > > for creating scales and arpeggio's?
> > > 
> > > [A module that would probably contain 24 or 32
> jack
> > > outputs (+ led's) 
> > > that output only a certain step/value/note or
> > > whatever you want to 
> > > call it in the current tuning, through all
> octaves.
> > > By selecting certain 
> > > outputs you select steps/values in a scale. E.g.
> in
> > > 12-tet output 1 
> > > only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#, output
> 3
> > > only outputs d-
> > > values etc. Each individual step/value can now
> be
> > > further processed, 
> > > or certain steps can be grouped using multiples
> etc.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave) it
> > > should be possible to 
> > > 'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or
> so) so
> > > you can even make 
> > > different scales/pick out different combinations
> of
> > > notes in different 
> > > octaves, which means you could do all kinds of
> > > arpeggio's, spanning 
> > > perhaps 4-6 octaves.]
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   o Yes! 
> > >   o maybe... 
> > >   o no. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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Maybe we will be able to introduce some of these functions into a derivate
of the universal AD/DA module that is under development. It is mainly a
question of operation, controls, inputs, outputs and display. The functions
on principle will be available with the module (12 bit AD conversion -
voltage processing by a microprocessor - 12 bit DA conversion) but it's the
question for example how to feed the values for different user definable
scales (LCD with encoder? switches? CV reading? ...)

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Anton Coops
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Mai 2006 08:17
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: RE: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
>
>
> Hi Bakis,
>
> Well, I guess that there are basically 2 uses for any quantizer
> (correct me if I'm wrong please)
>
> 1. correcting/tuning the output from a sequencer
> 2. deriving note-sequences (melodies, arpeggio's) from any voltage
> source, like an lfo, adsr, noise, complex envelopes etc. etc
>
> If Chuck sees no use for a 'breakout box' for individual note-values,
> my guess would be that he uses a quantizer primarily to tune a
> sequencer.
>
> But I think quite a few people on this list have allready asked for
> something a little more sophisticated than the a-156, to be able to
> customise or finetune the scales, melodies, arpeggio's or whatever it
> is they want to derive from some dynamic voltage source.
>
> I think a minimum option would be 12 cv-outputs for each of the 12
> values of the a-156, for building custom scales. Once you can get to
> these individual values, you could finetune them further with the high
> precision adder that's coming up? (Not sure about this) so that
> would even make it possible to create all kinds of tunings outside the
> 12-tone equal temperament tuning (allthough this might cost a lot of
> modules)
>
> But also extra functionality for arpeggio's would be nice (this
> probably means more cv-outputs) and perhaps even an individual
> gate-output for each cv-output (like Joost is suggesting?) which
> might be very handy for all kinds of extended uses.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Anton
>
>
> On 15 May 2006, at 14:33, Bakis Sirros wrote:
>
> > maybe Anton can enlighten us with more details about
> > this proposed module and it's possible uses?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- unknown freak <vogelscheiss@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm distinctly confused and dubious as to the
> > > utility value of such a
> > > module.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:23 PM
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created
> > > for the
> > > Doepfer_a100 group:
> > >
> > > Would you like Doepfer to release an Expansion
> > > module for all quantizers
> > > (hopefully including A-156)
> > > for creating scales and arpeggio's?
> > >
> > > [A module that would probably contain 24 or 32 jack
> > > outputs (+ led's)
> > > that output only a certain step/value/note or
> > > whatever you want to
> > > call it in the current tuning, through all octaves.
> > > By selecting certain
> > > outputs you select steps/values in a scale. E.g. in
> > > 12-tet output 1
> > > only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#, output 3
> > > only outputs d-
> > > values etc. Each individual step/value can now be
> > > further processed,
> > > or certain steps can be grouped using multiples etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave) it
> > > should be possible to
> > > 'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or so) so
> > > you can even make
> > > different scales/pick out different combinations of
> > > notes in different
> > > octaves, which means you could do all kinds of
> > > arpeggio's, spanning
> > > perhaps 4-6 octaves.]
> > >
> > >
> > >   o Yes!
> > >   o maybe...
> > >   o no.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Hi there Bakis,

But how could you seperate the different note values in such a setup?

You have e.g. 7 different values (not even 8) in most diatonic scales, but
they go through at least 7 octaves, so how would you 'group' the common
values from different octaves?

I think it would be great if the AD/DA module could handle that task.

Greetings

Anton

> hello anton,
> thank you for the detailed explanation. i see that
> such a module would be very usefull indeed.
> something like this could be achived with the a152 in
> combination with the a156 and a155. ]
> but, the a152 has 8 cv outputs and 8 gate outs, not 12
> at least, as the module you suggested. (if you connect
> a common clock to the a155 and a152 and then connect
> the a156 quantized cv out to the T & H input of the
> a152, then you have 8 quantized cv outputs plus 8 gate
> outputs from the a152). am i right?
> regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
>
> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bakis,
>>
>> Well, I guess that there are basically 2 uses for
>> any quantizer
>> (correct me if I'm wrong please)
>>
>> 1. correcting/tuning the output from a sequencer
>> 2. deriving note-sequences (melodies, arpeggio's)
>> from any voltage
>> source, like an lfo, adsr, noise, complex envelopes
>> etc. etc
>>
>> If Chuck sees no use for a 'breakout box' for
>> individual note-values,
>> my guess would be that he uses a quantizer primarily
>> to tune a
>> sequencer.
>>
>> But I think quite a few people on this list have
>> allready asked for
>> something a little more sophisticated than the
>> a-156, to be able to
>> customise or finetune the scales, melodies,
>> arpeggio's or whatever it
>> is they want to derive from some dynamic voltage
>> source.
>>
>> I think a minimum option would be 12 cv-outputs for
>> each of the 12
>> values of the a-156, for building custom scales.
>> Once you can get to
>> these individual values, you could finetune them
>> further with the high
>> precision adder that's coming up? (Not sure about
>> this) so that
>> would even make it possible to create all kinds of
>> tunings outside the
>> 12-tone equal temperament tuning (allthough this
>> might cost a lot of
>> modules)
>>
>> But also extra functionality for arpeggio's would be
>> nice (this
>> probably means more cv-outputs) and perhaps even an
>> individual
>> gate-output for each cv-output (like Joost is
>> suggesting?) which
>> might be very handy for all kinds of extended uses.
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Anton
>>
>>
>> On 15 May 2006, at 14:33, Bakis Sirros wrote:
>>
>> > maybe Anton can enlighten us with more details
>> about
>> > this proposed module and it's possible uses?
>> > regards,
>> > Bakis.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- unknown freak <vogelscheiss@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm distinctly confused and dubious as to the
>> > > utility value of such a
>> > > module.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --Chuck
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >   _____
>> > >
>> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
>> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:23 PM
>> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for
>> Doepfer_a100
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been
>> created
>> > > for the
>> > > Doepfer_a100 group:
>> > >
>> > > Would you like Doepfer to release an Expansion
>> > > module for all quantizers
>> > > (hopefully including A-156)
>> > > for creating scales and arpeggio's?
>> > >
>> > > [A module that would probably contain 24 or 32
>> jack
>> > > outputs (+ led's)
>> > > that output only a certain step/value/note or
>> > > whatever you want to
>> > > call it in the current tuning, through all
>> octaves.
>> > > By selecting certain
>> > > outputs you select steps/values in a scale. E.g.
>> in
>> > > 12-tet output 1
>> > > only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#, output
>> 3
>> > > only outputs d-
>> > > values etc. Each individual step/value can now
>> be
>> > > further processed,
>> > > or certain steps can be grouped using multiples
>> etc.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave) it
>> > > should be possible to
>> > > 'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or
>> so) so
>> > > you can even make
>> > > different scales/pick out different combinations
>> of
>> > > notes in different
>> > > octaves, which means you could do all kinds of
>> > > arpeggio's, spanning
>> > > perhaps 4-6 octaves.]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >   o Yes!
>> > >   o maybe...
>> > >   o no.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>> > > removed]
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
>> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
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Hello,

I'm not sure that I understand the functions of the
A-152 and I'm not sure I understand Anton's
explanation, but based on previous exchanges with him
I would say that what we are looking for is

a Quantizer that lets you take a separate quantized
voltage out for each note AND a separate gate
for each note.  These could be selected by a
simple switch for each note.

So that when the pre-quantized voltage hit
a particular range it would allow a control voltage
at the separate output and
it would cause a gate at the specific gate
output.

Breaking them out separately would allow selective
mixing with other modules.
And it would allow triggering an event when a
particular note hit.
And it would allow selection of a particular
scale just by flipping individual switches
for the specific notes of that scale.

Did I get it right, Anton?

sfrules

hello anton,
yes, you're right about that...
the a152 T & H outs only output cv's in a sequential
order. 8 cv's from its 8 T & H ouputs(assuming that it
will be receiving quantized cv signal via its T & H
input from the a156.)
so, if, say, someone, plays a few notes, then the 8
a152 T & H outputs will just keep on outputing
quantized note cv's but each of the a152's outputs
will NOT give only one specific note value's cv...
(hope this makes sense...)
apart from that, there is the multiple octaves notes
problem you mentioned too.
regards,
Bakis.





--- Dubshot <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Hi there Bakis,
> 
> But how could you seperate the different note values
> in such a setup?
> 
> You have e.g. 7 different values (not even 8) in
> most diatonic scales, but
> they go through at least 7 octaves, so how would you
> 'group' the common
> values from different octaves?
> 
> I think it would be great if the AD/DA module could
> handle that task.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Anton
> 
> > hello anton,
> > thank you for the detailed explanation. i see that
> > such a module would be very usefull indeed.
> > something like this could be achived with the a152
> in
> > combination with the a156 and a155. ]
> > but, the a152 has 8 cv outputs and 8 gate outs,
> not 12
> > at least, as the module you suggested. (if you
> connect
> > a common clock to the a155 and a152 and then
> connect
> > the a156 quantized cv out to the T & H input of
> the
> > a152, then you have 8 quantized cv outputs plus 8
> gate
> > outputs from the a152). am i right?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Bakis,
> >>
> >> Well, I guess that there are basically 2 uses for
> >> any quantizer
> >> (correct me if I'm wrong please)
> >>
> >> 1. correcting/tuning the output from a sequencer
> >> 2. deriving note-sequences (melodies, arpeggio's)
> >> from any voltage
> >> source, like an lfo, adsr, noise, complex
> envelopes
> >> etc. etc
> >>
> >> If Chuck sees no use for a 'breakout box' for
> >> individual note-values,
> >> my guess would be that he uses a quantizer
> primarily
> >> to tune a
> >> sequencer.
> >>
> >> But I think quite a few people on this list have
> >> allready asked for
> >> something a little more sophisticated than the
> >> a-156, to be able to
> >> customise or finetune the scales, melodies,
> >> arpeggio's or whatever it
> >> is they want to derive from some dynamic voltage
> >> source.
> >>
> >> I think a minimum option would be 12 cv-outputs
> for
> >> each of the 12
> >> values of the a-156, for building custom scales.
> >> Once you can get to
> >> these individual values, you could finetune them
> >> further with the high
> >> precision adder that's coming up? (Not sure about
> >> this) so that
> >> would even make it possible to create all kinds
> of
> >> tunings outside the
> >> 12-tone equal temperament tuning (allthough this
> >> might cost a lot of
> >> modules)
> >>
> >> But also extra functionality for arpeggio's would
> be
> >> nice (this
> >> probably means more cv-outputs) and perhaps even
> an
> >> individual
> >> gate-output for each cv-output (like Joost is
> >> suggesting?) which
> >> might be very handy for all kinds of extended
> uses.
> >>
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> Anton
> >>
> >>
> >> On 15 May 2006, at 14:33, Bakis Sirros wrote:
> >>
> >> > maybe Anton can enlighten us with more details
> >> about
> >> > this proposed module and it's possible uses?
> >> > regards,
> >> > Bakis.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- unknown freak <vogelscheiss@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'm distinctly confused and dubious as to the
> >> > > utility value of such a
> >> > > module.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --Chuck
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >   _____
> >> > >
> >> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> >> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:23 PM
> >> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for
> >> Doepfer_a100
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been
> >> created
> >> > > for the
> >> > > Doepfer_a100 group:
> >> > >
> >> > > Would you like Doepfer to release an
> Expansion
> >> > > module for all quantizers
> >> > > (hopefully including A-156)
> >> > > for creating scales and arpeggio's?
> >> > >
> >> > > [A module that would probably contain 24 or
> 32
> >> jack
> >> > > outputs (+ led's)
> >> > > that output only a certain step/value/note or
> >> > > whatever you want to
> >> > > call it in the current tuning, through all
> >> octaves.
> >> > > By selecting certain
> >> > > outputs you select steps/values in a scale.
> E.g.
> >> in
> >> > > 12-tet output 1
> >> > > only outputs c, output 2 only outputs c#,
> output
> >> 3
> >> > > only outputs d-
> >> > > values etc. Each individual step/value can
> now
> >> be
> >> > > further processed,
> >> > > or certain steps can be grouped using
> multiples
> >> etc.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > For simple tunings (say 5 steps in an octave)
> it
> >> > > should be possible to
> >> > > 'fill up' all the availabe outputs (all 24 or
> >> so) so
> >> > > you can even make
> >> > > different scales/pick out different
> combinations
> >> of
> >> > > notes in different
> >> > > octaves, which means you could do all kinds
> of
> >> > > arpeggio's, spanning
> >> > > perhaps 4-6 octaves.]
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >   o Yes!
> >> > >   o maybe...
> >> > >   o no.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> 
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Hi sfrules,

To me this sounds just like music in my ears :-)

Anton

> Hello,
>
> I'm not sure that I understand the functions of the
> A-152 and I'm not sure I understand Anton's
> explanation, but based on previous exchanges with him
> I would say that what we are looking for is
>
> a Quantizer that lets you take a separate quantized
> voltage out for each note AND a separate gate
> for each note.  These could be selected by a
> simple switch for each note.
>
> So that when the pre-quantized voltage hit
> a particular range it would allow a control voltage
> at the separate output and
> it would cause a gate at the specific gate
> output.
>
> Breaking them out separately would allow selective
> mixing with other modules.
> And it would allow triggering an event when a
> particular note hit.
> And it would allow selection of a particular
> scale just by flipping individual switches
> for the specific notes of that scale.
>
> Did I get it right, Anton?
>
> sfrules
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Maybe we will be able to introduce some of these functions into a derivate
> of the universal AD/DA module that is under development. It is mainly a
> question of operation, controls, inputs, outputs and display. The functions
> on principle will be available with the module (12 bit AD conversion -
> voltage processing by a microprocessor - 12 bit DA conversion) but it's the
> question for example how to feed the values for different user definable
> scales (LCD with encoder? switches? CV reading? ...)

An lcd screen would be nice, because an octave is divided in 1200 
cents, which is quite a large number, and you need precision. 
Furthermore I think you should be able to define the number of 
steps in a scale and the number of octaves the scale spans, so you 
can do arpeggio's as well.

greetings,

Anton