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2007-10-09 by vcovcfvca
Hello Group, Anyone out there able to share some experiences with Doepfer controllers. eg: ribbon, theremin, joystick etc. Any favourites? If so, what makes that controller so fun/useful/indispensable for you? Thanks folks! -Adam
2007-10-10 by David Salter
Hi Adam, I have all three of the ones mentioned. Joysticks are great, I have two - one sprung the other not - and they are robust and have many uses. The ribbon is a dream, used mostly for control voltage work rather than pitch by me but very versatile. The Theremin controller has been of limited value when used as a controller for me playing however I have used them for installation work where I have set aerials up around a gallery and allow people to interact with the music. For that I have found them useful. There is/was also a light control source (A179) but I have not played with that yet. What are you trying to achieve? David David Salter Senior Consultant PSG Reuters Messaging: david.salter.reuters.com@reuters.net (t) +44 (0)20 7542 2402 | (m) 07990562402 | (f) 52699 Get the latest news at Reuters.com <http://www.reuters.com/> ________________________________
From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vcovcfvca Sent: 10 October 2007 01:34 To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Doepfer alternative controllers Hello Group, Anyone out there able to share some experiences with Doepfer controllers. eg: ribbon, theremin, joystick etc. Any favourites? If so, what makes that controller so fun/useful/indispensable for you? Thanks folks! -Adam This email was sent to you by Reuters, the global news and information company. To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Limited. Reuters Limited is part of the Reuters Group of companies, of which Reuters Group PLC is the ultimate parent company. Reuters Group PLC - Registered office address: The Reuters Building, South Colonnade, Canary Wharf, London E14 5EP, United Kingdom Registered No: 3296375 Registered in England and Wales [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-10-10 by Maxime
Speaking about controllers, does anyone in list owns an AS frenchtouch controller ? If someone does, are you satisfied with it and do you think it's worth its price ? I'm working on a "Martenot like" ribbon CV controller prototype for very musical and expressive applications. I met J.L. Martenot yesterday (son of the inventor and inventor himself)and that was very instructive. He's not in modular stuff at all but we spoke a lot about music, electronics and controllers and we both agree that there's a big lack of musicality and expressive possibilities in nowadays electronic musical instruments. Do you guys feel the same and have you ever wanted a controller that would allow you to play synth like one would play cello, with real musical possibilities ? And by the way, have someone already experimented with DIY controllers and CV sources ? Maybe it's a bit offtopic but I think it's an interesting subject. Cheers, Max.
2007-10-10 by jalmari3
Some comments here: http://www.thereminworld.com/forum.asp?cmd=p&T=2169&F=1 I am not really happy with it, but I certainly don't regret the purchase. Best regards Jari Jokinen --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Maxime" <francois.maxime@...> wrote:
> > Speaking about controllers, does anyone in list owns an AS frenchtouch > controller ? If someone does, are you satisfied with it and do you > think it's worth its price ?
2007-10-10 by Bryan E Cornell
I assume you're talking about the French Connection. I had one, but had to sell it. I loved it. It had a bunch of really interesting controller possibilities. The ring slider was great and it had small indentations on under the ring so you could easily slide to a given note. One of it's most fun features was the button controller with attenuation. It doesn't sound that interesting, but when routed to a filter or oscillator, the button was a blast. It also featured a joystick. It was also really solidly constructed: the keys felt substantial and it even had red felt above the keys. If I had a spare $2.2 grand sitting around, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. Hope this helps, Bryan >>> "Maxime" <francois.maxime@gmail.com> 10/10/07 3:29 PM >>> Speaking about controllers, does anyone in list owns an AS frenchtouch controller ? If someone does, are you satisfied with it and do you think it's worth its price ? I'm working on a "Martenot like" ribbon CV controller prototype for very musical and expressive applications. I met J.L. Martenot yesterday (son of the inventor and inventor himself)and that was very instructive. He's not in modular stuff at all but we spoke a lot about music, electronics and controllers and we both agree that there's a big lack of musicality and expressive possibilities in nowadays electronic musical instruments. Do you guys feel the same and have you ever wanted a controller that would allow you to play synth like one would play cello, with real musical possibilities ? And by the way, have someone already experimented with DIY controllers and CV sources ? Maybe it's a bit offtopic but I think it's an interesting subject. Cheers, Max.
2007-10-12 by vcovcfvca
Thanks David, Very helpful response. I've just ordered the a-198 ribbon controller. I'm intending to use it for all sorts of control work, but one of its main uses will be for pitch control without a keyboard. I can also see joysticks being on my shopping list in the future though! Regards, Adam --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter <david.salter@...> wrote: > > Hi Adam, > > I have all three of the ones mentioned. > > Joysticks are great, I have two - one sprung the other not - and they > are robust and have many uses. > > The ribbon is a dream, used mostly for control voltage work rather than > pitch by me but very versatile. > > The Theremin controller has been of limited value when used as a > controller for me playing however I have used them for installation work > where I have set aerials up around a gallery and allow people to > interact with the music. For that I have found them useful. > > There is/was also a light control source (A179) but I have not played > with that yet. > > What are you trying to achieve? > > David > > David Salter > Senior Consultant > PSG > > Reuters Messaging: david.salter.reuters.com@... > (t) +44 (0)20 7542 2402 | (m) 07990562402 | (f) 52699 > > Get the latest news at Reuters.com <http://www.reuters.com/> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of vcovcfvca > Sent: 10 October 2007 01:34 > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Doepfer alternative controllers > > > > Hello Group, > > Anyone out there able to share some experiences with Doepfer > controllers. eg: ribbon, theremin, joystick etc. > > Any favourites? If so, what makes that controller so > fun/useful/indispensable for you? > > Thanks folks! > -Adam > > > > > > > This email was sent to you by Reuters, the global news and information company. > To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, > except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Limited. > > Reuters Limited is part of the Reuters Group of companies, of which Reuters Group PLC is the ultimate parent company. > Reuters Group PLC - Registered office address: The Reuters Building, South Colonnade, Canary Wharf, London E14 5EP, United Kingdom
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2007-10-12 by David Salter
Hi Adam, For me my combination of joysticks are great some times you want that momentary change - so use the sprung joystick and then there are times when you want a small change followed but a further changes a little later on - use the un sprung joystick. I was thinking at some point that the foot controller module might be worth investigating as it provides two pedals for adjusting CV and two switches for triggering sequencers and envelopes. So many possibilities :o) Best wishes david David Salter Senior Consultant PSG Reuters Messaging: david.salter.reuters.com@reuters.net (t) +44 (0)20 7542 2402 | (m) 07990562402 | (f) 52699 Get the latest news at Reuters.com <http://www.reuters.com/> ________________________________
From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vcovcfvca Sent: 12 October 2007 10:39 To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Doepfer alternative controllers Thanks David, Very helpful response. I've just ordered the a-198 ribbon controller. I'm intending to use it for all sorts of control work, but one of its main uses will be for pitch control without a keyboard. I can also see joysticks being on my shopping list in the future though! Regards, Adam --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , David Salter <david.salter@...> wrote: > > Hi Adam, > > I have all three of the ones mentioned. > > Joysticks are great, I have two - one sprung the other not - and they > are robust and have many uses. > > The ribbon is a dream, used mostly for control voltage work rather than > pitch by me but very versatile. > > The Theremin controller has been of limited value when used as a > controller for me playing however I have used them for installation work > where I have set aerials up around a gallery and allow people to > interact with the music. For that I have found them useful. > > There is/was also a light control source (A179) but I have not played > with that yet. > > What are you trying to achieve? > > David > > David Salter > Senior Consultant > PSG > > Reuters Messaging: david.salter.reuters.com@... > (t) +44 (0)20 7542 2402 | (m) 07990562402 | (f) 52699 > > Get the latest news at Reuters.com <http://www.reuters.com/ <http://www.reuters.com/> > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of vcovcfvca > Sent: 10 October 2007 01:34 > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Doepfer alternative controllers > > > > Hello Group, > > Anyone out there able to share some experiences with Doepfer > controllers. eg: ribbon, theremin, joystick etc. > > Any favourites? If so, what makes that controller so > fun/useful/indispensable for you? > > Thanks folks! > -Adam > > > > > > > This email was sent to you by Reuters, the global news and information company. > To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, > except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Limited. > > Reuters Limited is part of the Reuters Group of companies, of which Reuters Group PLC is the ultimate parent company. > Reuters Group PLC - Registered office address: The Reuters Building, South Colonnade, Canary Wharf, London E14 5EP, United Kingdom > Registered No: 3296375 > Registered in England and Wales > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > This email was sent to you by Reuters, the global news and information company. To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Limited. Reuters Limited is part of the Reuters Group of companies, of which Reuters Group PLC is the ultimate parent company. Reuters Group PLC - Registered office address: The Reuters Building, South Colonnade, Canary Wharf, London E14 5EP, United Kingdom Registered No: 3296375 Registered in England and Wales [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-10-12 by jalmari3
I received comments from someone, who has studied Ondes Martenot at conservatory and has knowledge about the mechanics of the instrument. He has also briefly tested the French Connection: - "The ring was crappy (all Martenot or Ondéa use a ring that fits the finger, different devices are used, but it is essential that the ring perfectly fits the finger so that you can make a good vibrato.)" - "The wire was made of plastic and kinda elastic, wich is not really good for expression." - "The "button" didn't offer any mechanical resistance so many rythmical effects couldn't be produced." Judging by some Ondes Martenot videos, it is easy believe this. But like I said, I don't regret my purchase. Hopefully there will be French Connection Mk II and other high quality alternative controllers in the future... Best regards Jari Jokinen
2007-10-21 by vcovcfvca
I've just received my ribbon controller. Its great! I wouldn't hesitate recommending it to anyone looking for a controller other than a keyboard. Having 2 gates and 2 CV's on the A-198 is very useful. Using pressure control to modulate a filter is kind of like having a finger controlled wah-wah pedal! Having the 2nd pressure operated gate with threshold setting is also very handy for those wanting to trigger a secondary event at a time of their choosing ... Thanks Doepfer... there's no one else out there who really makes such interesting/useful/affordable controllers. Synthesizers are more than just VCOs, filters, envelopes etc. The human interface is just as important. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "vcovcfvca" <vcovcfvca@...> wrote:
> > Thanks David, > > Very helpful response. > > I've just ordered the a-198 ribbon controller. I'm intending to use > it for all sorts of control work, but one of its main uses will be > for pitch control without a keyboard. I can also see joysticks being > on my shopping list in the future though! > > Regards, > Adam > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter <david.salter@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Adam, > > > > I have all three of the ones mentioned. > > > > Joysticks are great, I have two - one sprung the other not - and > they > > are robust and have many uses. > > > > The ribbon is a dream, used mostly for control voltage work rather > than > > pitch by me but very versatile. > > > > The Theremin controller has been of limited value when used as a > > controller for me playing however I have used them for installation > work > > where I have set aerials up around a gallery and allow people to > > interact with the music. For that I have found them useful. > > > > There is/was also a light control source (A179) but I have not > played > > with that yet. > > > > What are you trying to achieve? > > > > David > > > > David Salter > > Senior Consultant > > PSG > > > > Reuters Messaging: david.salter.reuters.com@ > > (t) +44 (0)20 7542 2402 | (m) 07990562402 | (f) 52699 > > > > Get the latest news at Reuters.com <http://www.reuters.com/> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of vcovcfvca > > Sent: 10 October 2007 01:34 > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Doepfer alternative controllers > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > Anyone out there able to share some experiences with Doepfer > > controllers. eg: ribbon, theremin, joystick etc. > > > > Any favourites? If so, what makes that controller so > > fun/useful/indispensable for you? > > > > Thanks folks! > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This email was sent to you by Reuters, the global news and > information company. > > To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com > > > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender, > > except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of > Reuters Limited. > > > > Reuters Limited is part of the Reuters Group of companies, of which > Reuters Group PLC is the ultimate parent company. > > Reuters Group PLC - Registered office address: The Reuters > Building, South Colonnade, Canary Wharf, London E14 5EP, United > Kingdom > > Registered No: 3296375 > > Registered in England and Wales > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >