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A143-1 problem

2007-10-24 by bellenger_a

Hello,

just got an A143-1 from MESI yesterday... trying it out this morning and from the MIX 
OUTPUT I can only get the ENV1... not the other ones... It seems this module is defective? 
should I just bring it back or is there anything simple I could check before that?


Thanks, best/a

Re: A143-1 problem

2007-10-24 by bellenger_a

Florian, thanks for this quick answer...

SO... I think (well I hope so!) that I understood pretty well the functionning of the module 
as everything seems to be working for me BUT EXCEPT from the MIX OUTPUT...

OR MAYBE I AM ALL MIXING IT UP


BASICALLY:

from the MIX OUTPUT should I not be get (lets say with nothing patched in... all in LFO 
mod, and with all Mix Polarizer knobs at +2) all ENVELOPS mixed together?

My problem is that there is ONLY ENVELOP 1 which go to the MIX OUTPUT?


/alexandre/





--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi
> 
> you are aware, that Env2 to Env 4 are NOT triggered by the trigger-in by 
> default but are connected to the comparator out?
> For testing set the "threshold" levels of Env1 to Env3 to at least 9 
> o'clock position. If you want to use them as normal envelopes you have 
> to connect the four Trigger Ins individually to the Gate from the 
> MIDI-Interface or Keyboard.
> 
> Florian
> 
> 
> bellenger_a wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > just got an A143-1 from MESI yesterday... trying it out this morning and from the MIX 
> > OUTPUT I can only get the ENV1... not the other ones... It seems this module is 
defective? 
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> > should I just bring it back or is there anything simple I could check before that?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, best/a
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol
> Tel.   +49(89)45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
> Fax    +49(89)45841-111           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
> email: florian.anwander@... |http://www.consol.de
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A143-1 problem

2007-10-24 by Florian Anwander

Hi

you are aware, that Env2 to Env 4 are NOT triggered by the trigger-in by 
default but are connected to the comparator out?
For testing set the "threshold" levels of Env1 to Env3 to at least 9 
o'clock position. If you want to use them as normal envelopes you have 
to connect the four Trigger Ins individually to the Gate from the 
MIDI-Interface or Keyboard.

Florian


bellenger_a wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> just got an A143-1 from MESI yesterday... trying it out this morning and from the MIX 
> OUTPUT I can only get the ENV1... not the other ones... It seems this module is defective? 
> should I just bring it back or is there anything simple I could check before that?
> 
> 
> Thanks, best/a
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Florian Anwander                  |ConSol
Tel.   +49(89)45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49(89)45841-111           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
email: florian.anwander@consol.de |http://www.consol.de

Re: A143-1 problem

2007-10-24 by bellenger_a

> First of all please check if there are envelope signals for the outputs 2, 3
> and 4 (observable at the LEDs of the units 2, 3 and 4).
YES THEY ALL WORK... each envelop works and lits up OK...


>The solder point labelled "JP4" of
> all four boards (located behind the control "Mix Polarizer" at the edge of
> the board) should be connected with a blank wire. If this connection is
> missing only envelope output #1 appears at the mix output.
well there is some kinda thin metal bar (blank wire I guess as you said) joining all this JP4 
points... and... in fact, I think maybe this blank wire isnt totally well soldered to the first 
board in fact... which then might cause no contact... I dont know really if that is what's 
wrong, I will bring back the module to MESI asap...


LAST MINUTE : well after I slightly touched the blank wire and plug the module back, its 
now working... Dieter, would the guarantee goes off if I ask MESI to solder this again for 
me?



thanks for yr attention,

/a/
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> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

AW: [Doepfer_a100] A143-1 problem

2007-10-24 by hardware@doepfer.de

> Hello,
>
> just got an A143-1 from MESI yesterday... trying it out this morning and
from the MIX
> OUTPUT I can only get the ENV1... not the other ones... It seems this
module is defective?
> should I just bring it back or is there anything simple I could  check
before that?

First of all please check if there are envelope signals for the outputs 2, 3
and 4 (observable at the LEDs of the units 2, 3 and 4). If there are
envelope signals on all 4 outputs the module has to be sent in for repair if
only envelope 1 appears at the mix output. Maybe the manufacturer forgot to
connect the mix bus of all four boards. The solder point labelled "JP4" of
all four boards (located behind the control "Mix Polarizer" at the edge of
the board) should be connected with a blank wire. If this connection is
missing only envelope output #1 appears at the mix output.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A143-1 problem

2007-10-24 by Bakis Sirros

have you set the "Mix Polarizer" knobs an all 4 env's
to the positive range (above zero)?
best regards,
Bakis.


--- bellenger_a <bellenger_a@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Florian, thanks for this quick answer...
> 
> SO... I think (well I hope so!) that I understood
> pretty well the functionning of the module 
> as everything seems to be working for me BUT EXCEPT
> from the MIX OUTPUT...
> 
> OR MAYBE I AM ALL MIXING IT UP
> 
> 
> BASICALLY:
> 
> from the MIX OUTPUT should I not be get (lets say
> with nothing patched in... all in LFO 
> mod, and with all Mix Polarizer knobs at +2) all
> ENVELOPS mixed together?
> 
> My problem is that there is ONLY ENVELOP 1 which go
> to the MIX OUTPUT?
> 
> 
> /alexandre/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian
> Anwander <Florian.Anwander@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > 
> > you are aware, that Env2 to Env 4 are NOT
> triggered by the trigger-in by 
> > default but are connected to the comparator out?
> > For testing set the "threshold" levels of Env1 to
> Env3 to at least 9 
> > o'clock position. If you want to use them as
> normal envelopes you have 
> > to connect the four Trigger Ins individually to
> the Gate from the 
> > MIDI-Interface or Keyboard.
> > 
> > Florian
> > 
> > 
> > bellenger_a wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > just got an A143-1 from MESI yesterday... trying
> it out this morning and from the MIX 
> > > OUTPUT I can only get the ENV1... not the other
> ones... It seems this module is 
> defective? 
> > > should I just bring it back or is there anything
> simple I could check before that?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks, best/a
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Florian Anwander                  |ConSol
> > Tel.   +49(89)45841-133          
> |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
> > Fax    +49(89)45841-111          
> |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
> > email: florian.anwander@... |http://www.consol.de
> >
> 
> 


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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A143-1 problem

2007-10-24 by hardware@doepfer.de

> well there is some kinda thin metal bar (blank wire I guess as you said)
joining all this JP4
> points... and... in fact, I think maybe this blank wire isnt totally well
soldered to the first
> board in fact...

I suppose that the blank wire it was a bit bend during transportation and
this caused the interruption.

> which then might cause no contact... I dont know really if that is what's
> wrong, I will bring back the module to MESI asap...
>
> LAST MINUTE : well after I slightly touched the blank wire and plug the
module back, its
> now working... Dieter, would the guarantee goes off if I ask MESI to
solder this again for
> me?

No problem. We are not that nitpicking. Even if you are able to solder you
could do it yourself. I'm quite sure that it will solve the problem.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: A143-1 problem

2007-10-25 by bellenger_a

> No problem. We are not that nitpicking. Even if you are able to solder you
> could do it yourself. I'm quite sure that it will solve the problem.


SUPER! GREAT!... I will sort this out... thanks you... btw... I SUPER LOVE THIS MODULE... 
simple, efficient, intelligently made... 


génial, merci beaucoup... also really waiting for these simple small 6HP serie to come up...


Good evening bye/+alexandre

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