Doepfer

After an e-mail to Dieter, he suggested I post the idea here to see everyone's reaction.  I 
would really like for the touch plate keyboard to be offered in module form, to fit alongside 
other modules, therefore replicating such modules as the Buchla 218 or 217.  I think since 
seperate keyboards are already available, and that Doepfer is releasing a small CV version 
with manual keys, a touch plate "module"  would make it easy for people with the portable 
suitcase A-100 to create their own Buchla Music Easel clone.  Any thoughts?

As a side note, it would be even better if the module would be less than 84HP wide to help 
create an even more complex portable synth.

Carlo

for me, its ok.
i do not have problem whether the TKB will be in
module, or in desktop form.
best regards,
Bakis.


--- carlocossette <carlocossette@yahoo.com> wrote:

> After an e-mail to Dieter, he suggested I post the
> idea here to see everyone's reaction.  I 
> would really like for the touch plate keyboard to be
> offered in module form, to fit alongside 
> other modules, therefore replicating such modules as
> the Buchla 218 or 217.  I think since 
> seperate keyboards are already available, and that
> Doepfer is releasing a small CV version 
> with manual keys, a touch plate "module"  would make
> it easy for people with the portable 
> suitcase A-100 to create their own Buchla Music
> Easel clone.  Any thoughts?
> 
> As a side note, it would be even better if the
> module would be less than 84HP wide to help 
> create an even more complex portable synth.
> 
> Carlo
> 
> 


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An uneccessary loss of rack space & should be seperate keyboard. I would also like to see this released soon!

Bill

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Doepfer touch plate keyboard option


  for me, its ok.
  i do not have problem whether the TKB will be in
  module, or in desktop form.
  best regards,
  Bakis.

  --- carlocossette <carlocossette@yahoo.com> wrote:

  > After an e-mail to Dieter, he suggested I post the
  > idea here to see everyone's reaction. I 
  > would really like for the touch plate keyboard to be
  > offered in module form, to fit alongside 
  > other modules, therefore replicating such modules as
  > the Buchla 218 or 217. I think since 
  > seperate keyboards are already available, and that
  > Doepfer is releasing a small CV version 
  > with manual keys, a touch plate "module" would make
  > it easy for people with the portable 
  > suitcase A-100 to create their own Buchla Music
  > Easel clone. Any thoughts?
  > 
  > As a side note, it would be even better if the
  > module would be less than 84HP wide to help 
  > create an even more complex portable synth.
  > 
  > Carlo
  > 
  > 

  Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
  [Doepfer_a100] group owner
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  http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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  http://www.myspace.com/memorygeist
  http://www.DiN.org.uk
  http://www.musicamaximamagnetica.com
  http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
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Seems to be a good idea. If you can detail it a bit for those like me
who don't know about the buchla modules. Would it be only a KB with
only CV and gate outputs or other features ? What about the patch
cords disturbing the playing ?

Anyway I think I'd rather buy the TKB as it looks like now than as a
module (space in case being the problem).

(can't wait for this TKB ...!!!! NEED ONE !§)





--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "carlocossette"
<carlocossette@...> wrote:
>
> After an e-mail to Dieter, he suggested I post the idea here to see
everyone's reaction.  I 
> would really like for the touch plate keyboard to be offered in
module form, to fit alongside 
> other modules, therefore replicating such modules as the Buchla 218
or 217.  I think since 
> seperate keyboards are already available, and that Doepfer is
releasing a small CV version 
> with manual keys, a touch plate "module"  would make it easy for
people with the portable 
> suitcase A-100 to create their own Buchla Music Easel clone.  Any
thoughts?
> 
> As a side note, it would be even better if the module would be less
than 84HP wide to help 

> create an even more complex portable synth.
> 
> Carlo
>

I would definitely prefer it as a rackable module. I would get another suitcase rack to 
mount it imediately. -Kurt

Here's the Buchla 218 by itself and in the Music Easel:
[url]http://www.buchla.com/historical/b200/images/218-large.jpeg[/url]
[url]http://www.buchla.com/historical/music_easel/images/musiceasel-large.jpeg[/url]

I for one have enough loose boxes in my studio.  Besides, it's just as possible for Doepfer 
to release it as a module but with the option of a box the exact size of the module for 
people to just screw it on there and use it as a desktop module.  If all jacks are on the 
front panel, the box can easily be added without mods.  If it does need a special 
connection, then get a usb connection (like the a-198) to a small 4hp module on the case.



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Maxime" <francois.maxime@...> wrote:

>
> Seems to be a good idea. If you can detail it a bit for those like me
> who don't know about the buchla modules. Would it be only a KB with
> only CV and gate outputs or other features ? What about the patch
> cords disturbing the playing ?
> 
> Anyway I think I'd rather buy the TKB as it looks like now than as a
> module (space in case being the problem).
> 
> (can't wait for this TKB ...!!!! NEED ONE !§)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "carlocossette"
> <carlocossette@> wrote:
> >
> > After an e-mail to Dieter, he suggested I post the idea here to see
> everyone's reaction.  I 
> > would really like for the touch plate keyboard to be offered in
> module form, to fit alongside 
> > other modules, therefore replicating such modules as the Buchla 218
> or 217.  I think since 
> > seperate keyboards are already available, and that Doepfer is
> releasing a small CV version 
> > with manual keys, a touch plate "module"  would make it easy for
> people with the portable 
> > suitcase A-100 to create their own Buchla Music Easel clone.  Any
> thoughts?
> > 
> > As a side note, it would be even better if the module would be less
> than 84HP wide to help 
> > create an even more complex portable synth.
> > 
> > Carlo
> >
>

I think it is a superb idea.  The only reason a person would not like 
the idea is if they do not know the power of a music easel.

Matthew




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "carlocossette" 
<carlocossette@...> wrote:
>
> After an e-mail to Dieter, he suggested I post the idea here to see 
everyone's reaction.  I 
>

I don't presently have a need for such a keyboard
but my vote would be to have it usable unracked or
racked. Unracked being the way I would most likely
use it. Just my thoughts

On 1/13/08, mritenburg <mritenburg@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think it is a superb idea.  The only reason a person would not like
>  the idea is if they do not know the power of a music easel.

My personal preference would be to see it released in a standalone box
that is itself capable of having rack ears attached for racking with
the rest of the a100 system.

I would be disappointed to see it released as yet another a100 module
that requires a full g3 or g6 case to even function. That would add
significantly to the cost, I would think.

-Brandon

Okay, so I created a poll for it.  Since it's a loaded question, I did my very best to make the 
choices clear for everyone.  Enjoy.


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "carlocossette" <carlocossette@...> wrote:

>
> After an e-mail to Dieter, he suggested I post the idea here to see everyone's reaction.  I 
> would really like for the touch plate keyboard to be offered in module form, to fit alongside 
> other modules, therefore replicating such modules as the Buchla 218 or 217.  I think since 
> seperate keyboards are already available, and that Doepfer is releasing a small CV version 
> with manual keys, a touch plate "module"  would make it easy for people with the portable 
> suitcase A-100 to create their own Buchla Music Easel clone.  Any thoughts?
> 
> As a side note, it would be even better if the module would be less than 84HP wide to help 
> create an even more complex portable synth.
> 
> Carlo
>

To me, the main interest in the module version is that you can put
several ones side to side, making a larger keyboard (and I'm not
interested in having several TKB). So I think a module with desktop
option would be the best idea because with the rack version, you'll
have the screws and stuff between the TKB breaking the scale of the
musical intervals (I hope this sentence is correct and you'll
understand it).

I'll probably take the desktop option anyway, I need a standalone box
and I don't want to have to build another 'cabinet' so that I have the
keyboard at the right height. I just want to be able to put it on a
table and play, especially for live...
About the size of the module, in my opinion, 84HP is good. I thought
about 80HP too, so that you can put it in the A100 portable suitcase
(with switch on the front panel) but I noticed that the bottom edge of
the suitcase is really prominent and could disturb the playing...

My humble thoughts about this poll and TKB. This keyboard is THE thing
from Doepfer that I'm waiting for ( I refresh the Doepfer.de twice a
day to see if there are any news about it !!) and I hope it will be
manufactured one day ! (the sooner the better)




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Herman Pearl" <djsoysos@...> wrote:

>
> I don't presently have a need for such a keyboard
> but my vote would be to have it usable unracked or
> racked. Unracked being the way I would most likely
> use it. Just my thoughts
>

Hi All, 

I'm jumping in on this topic kind of late. On top of that I'm about 
to take it off on another tangent, so I apologise for hijacking the 
agenda! 

My question is: what use are people hoping to put the TKB to? I'm 
guessing that the main interest is as an "alternative" type 
controller for those who are either not interested in the 
traditional type of keyboard or for those who want to use it 
alongside their keyboard as another control option. In this respect, 
wouldn't it be more useful/interseting to have a simple set of touch 
plates (maybe 10 in a desktop version or maybe 5 in a module 
version??) that can be tuned to individual intervals rather than 
another 1v/octave keyboard? (Kind of like the original TKB concept 
but without all of the individual CV outs and sequencing ie: perhaps 
just 3 voltage outputs: a main plate cv, a pressure CV and a gate 
voltage).  Maybe the module could be equipped with a USB socket (as 
I believe someone else has suggested)instead of the individual 1/8" 
jacks and make use of the existing Doepfer A-100 ribbon controller 
interface (a-198)? 

Sorry if these ideas have been suggested already or this conflicts 
with the intended design and goals of the project. Just my thoughts!
Regards, 
Adam 

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Maxime" <francois.maxime@...> 
wrote:
>
> To me, the main interest in the module version is that you can put
> several ones side to side, making a larger keyboard (and I'm not
> interested in having several TKB). So I think a module with desktop
> option would be the best idea because with the rack version, you'll
> have the screws and stuff between the TKB breaking the scale of the
> musical intervals (I hope this sentence is correct and you'll
> understand it).
> 
> I'll probably take the desktop option anyway, I need a standalone 
box
> and I don't want to have to build another 'cabinet' so that I have 
the
> keyboard at the right height. I just want to be able to put it on a
> table and play, especially for live...
> About the size of the module, in my opinion, 84HP is good. I 
thought
> about 80HP too, so that you can put it in the A100 portable 
suitcase
> (with switch on the front panel) but I noticed that the bottom 
edge of
> the suitcase is really prominent and could disturb the playing...
> 
> My humble thoughts about this poll and TKB. This keyboard is THE 
thing
> from Doepfer that I'm waiting for ( I refresh the Doepfer.de twice 
a
> day to see if there are any news about it !!) and I hope it will be
> manufactured one day ! (the sooner the better)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Herman Pearl" <djsoysos@> 
wrote:

> >
> > I don't presently have a need for such a keyboard
> > but my vote would be to have it usable unracked or
> > racked. Unracked being the way I would most likely
> > use it. Just my thoughts
> >
>

That actually sounds pretty cool too!!
I'm not so much into equal 12 tone controllers
right now anyway.

>In this respect, 
> wouldn't it be more useful/interseting to have a simple set of touch 
> plates (maybe 10 in a desktop version or maybe 5 in a module 
> version??) that can be tuned to individual intervals rather than 
> another 1v/octave keyboard? (Kind of like the original TKB concept 
> but without all of the individual CV outs and sequencing ie: perhaps 
> just 3 voltage outputs: a main plate cv, a pressure CV and a gate 
> voltage).  Maybe the module could be equipped with a USB socket (as 
> I believe someone else has suggested)instead of the individual 1/8" 
> jacks and make use of the existing Doepfer A-100 ribbon controller 
> interface (a-198)?

Wow.  Very cool idea indeed.  Too bad the poll already started.  Maybe you can start one.  
Making a 10 (approx.) plate module, each with a pot that controls the voltage, much like a 
sequencer, would be a killer module.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Herman Pearl" <djsoysos@...> wrote:

>
> 
> That actually sounds pretty cool too!!
> I'm not so much into equal 12 tone controllers
> right now anyway.
> 
> >In this respect, 
> > wouldn't it be more useful/interseting to have a simple set of touch 
> > plates (maybe 10 in a desktop version or maybe 5 in a module 
> > version??) that can be tuned to individual intervals rather than 
> > another 1v/octave keyboard? (Kind of like the original TKB concept 
> > but without all of the individual CV outs and sequencing ie: perhaps 
> > just 3 voltage outputs: a main plate cv, a pressure CV and a gate 
> > voltage).  Maybe the module could be equipped with a USB socket (as 
> > I believe someone else has suggested)instead of the individual 1/8" 
> > jacks and make use of the existing Doepfer A-100 ribbon controller 
> > interface (a-198)?
>

Hi Herman,

Seems like we are both into getting out of the same old boring 12 tone grid

:-)

I've been trying for more than a year now to advocate a module with more 
adventurous tuning capabilities, because right now there is no user 
friendly way to do something like say a gamelan tuning on the A-100

Anton

> That actually sounds pretty cool too!!
> I'm not so much into equal 12 tone controllers
> right now anyway.
> 
>  >In this respect,
>  > wouldn't it be more useful/interseting to have a simple set of touch
>  > plates (maybe 10 in a desktop version or maybe 5 in a module
>  > version??) that can be tuned to individual intervals rather than
>  > another 1v/octave keyboard? (Kind of like the original TKB concept
>  > but without all of the individual CV outs and sequencing ie: perhaps
>  > just 3 voltage outputs: a main plate cv, a pressure CV and a gate
>  > voltage). Maybe the module could be equipped with a USB socket (as
>  > I believe someone else has suggested)instead of the individual 1/8"
>  > jacks and make use of the existing Doepfer A-100 ribbon controller
>  > interface (a-198)?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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guys,
you obviosule have missed some older discussion about
the TKB and its controller module.
there will be a separate controller module that will
have MANY functions. each TKB "button/key" will output
the voltage that the user will define.
so, the TKB will be able to output not only the
standard western scale, but any other scale/tuning the
user wants to make.
best regards,
Bakis.


--- carlocossette <carlocossette@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow.  Very cool idea indeed.  Too bad the poll
> already started.  Maybe you can start one.  
> Making a 10 (approx.) plate module, each with a pot
> that controls the voltage, much like a 
> sequencer, would be a killer module.
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Herman Pearl"
> <djsoysos@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > That actually sounds pretty cool too!!
> > I'm not so much into equal 12 tone controllers
> > right now anyway.
> > 
> > >In this respect, 
> > > wouldn't it be more useful/interseting to have a
> simple set of touch 
> > > plates (maybe 10 in a desktop version or maybe 5
> in a module 
> > > version??) that can be tuned to individual
> intervals rather than 
> > > another 1v/octave keyboard? (Kind of like the
> original TKB concept 
> > > but without all of the individual CV outs and
> sequencing ie: perhaps 
> > > just 3 voltage outputs: a main plate cv, a
> pressure CV and a gate 
> > > voltage).  Maybe the module could be equipped
> with a USB socket (as 
> > > I believe someone else has suggested)instead of
> the individual 1/8" 
> > > jacks and make use of the existing Doepfer A-100
> ribbon controller 
> > > interface (a-198)?
> >
> 
> 
> 


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
http://www.myspace.com/interconnectedmusic
http://www.myspace.com/memorygeist
http://www.DiN.org.uk
http://www.musicamaximamagnetica.com
http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
http://www.rubber.gr
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Hi Bakis, 

I've seen the TKB concept page at Doepfer and agree that the 
separate controller module looks great, but I was thinking that 
perhaps the complexity of the system may be holding its development 
back and was just wondering if there may be a place for a simplified 
option. 

Also, the full TKB system with controller may become a little 
expensive for some people and there may well be a market for a 
cheaper/ more basic version. 

It wouldn't necessarily have to replace the existing TKB concept. 
ie: It could coexist alongside the more elaborate TKB. (Just as 
Doepfer has developed two ribbon controller options in recent years 
and also has the 2 different step sequencer options - all are unique 
products that offer different options to users). 

I'm sure that there are others out there with their own personal 
wishlists. A major one of mine would be a more tactile interface 
with larger touchpads in a configuration that is less keyboard-y, so 
that I could approach it more like a percussion instrument or UFO 
control panel! But again I digress and probably detract from the 
original focus of this discussion... so, I'll stop now!

In the end I'll be happy to see anything new that appears.

Best regards, 
Adam 

 
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
>
> guys,
> you obviosule have missed some older discussion about
> the TKB and its controller module.
> there will be a separate controller module that will
> have MANY functions. each TKB "button/key" will output
> the voltage that the user will define.
> so, the TKB will be able to output not only the
> standard western scale, but any other scale/tuning the
> user wants to make.
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> --- carlocossette <carlocossette@...> wrote:
> 
> > Wow.  Very cool idea indeed.  Too bad the poll
> > already started.  Maybe you can start one.  
> > Making a 10 (approx.) plate module, each with a pot
> > that controls the voltage, much like a 
> > sequencer, would be a killer module.
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Herman Pearl"
> > <djsoysos@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > That actually sounds pretty cool too!!
> > > I'm not so much into equal 12 tone controllers
> > > right now anyway.
> > > 
> > > >In this respect, 
> > > > wouldn't it be more useful/interseting to have a
> > simple set of touch 
> > > > plates (maybe 10 in a desktop version or maybe 5
> > in a module 
> > > > version??) that can be tuned to individual
> > intervals rather than 
> > > > another 1v/octave keyboard? (Kind of like the
> > original TKB concept 
> > > > but without all of the individual CV outs and
> > sequencing ie: perhaps 
> > > > just 3 voltage outputs: a main plate cv, a
> > pressure CV and a gate 
> > > > voltage).  Maybe the module could be equipped
> > with a USB socket (as 
> > > > I believe someone else has suggested)instead of
> > the individual 1/8" 
> > > > jacks and make use of the existing Doepfer A-100
> > ribbon controller 
> > > > interface (a-198)?
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> http://www.myspace.com/interconnectedmusic
> http://www.myspace.com/memorygeist
> http://www.DiN.org.uk
> http://www.musicamaximamagnetica.com
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> http://www.rubber.gr
> Athens-Greece
> 
> 
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I'm just thrilled to see this discussion taking place. I have been
watching the development of this product for five years. I can't
explain how anxious I am to see it come to fruition. The normal
keyboard arrangement happens to work for most of my needs, but I do
understand the desire for something more Buchla-like. It's important
to remember that, at this point, the controller is planned to respond
to MIDI, so any type of MIDI controller can be used, whether made by
Doepfer or not. There are DIY kits already available that would allow
the user to arrange metal plates however he desires. The important
issue is the production of the controller module.

















--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "vcovcfvca" <vcovcfvca@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Bakis, 
> 
> I've seen the TKB concept page at Doepfer and agree that the 
> separate controller module looks great, but I was thinking that 
> perhaps the complexity of the system may be holding its development 
> back and was just wondering if there may be a place for a simplified 
> option. 
> 
> Also, the full TKB system with controller may become a little 
> expensive for some people and there may well be a market for a 
> cheaper/ more basic version. 
> 
> It wouldn't necessarily have to replace the existing TKB concept. 
> ie: It could coexist alongside the more elaborate TKB. (Just as 
> Doepfer has developed two ribbon controller options in recent years 
> and also has the 2 different step sequencer options - all are unique 
> products that offer different options to users). 
> 
> I'm sure that there are others out there with their own personal 
> wishlists. A major one of mine would be a more tactile interface 
> with larger touchpads in a configuration that is less keyboard-y, so 
> that I could approach it more like a percussion instrument or UFO 
> control panel! But again I digress and probably detract from the 
> original focus of this discussion... so, I'll stop now!
> 
> In the end I'll be happy to see anything new that appears.
> 
> Best regards, 
> Adam 
> 
>  
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> >
> > guys,
> > you obviosule have missed some older discussion about
> > the TKB and its controller module.
> > there will be a separate controller module that will
> > have MANY functions. each TKB "button/key" will output
> > the voltage that the user will define.
> > so, the TKB will be able to output not only the
> > standard western scale, but any other scale/tuning the
> > user wants to make.
> > best regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > --- carlocossette <carlocossette@> wrote:
> > 
> > > Wow.  Very cool idea indeed.  Too bad the poll
> > > already started.  Maybe you can start one.  
> > > Making a 10 (approx.) plate module, each with a pot
> > > that controls the voltage, much like a 
> > > sequencer, would be a killer module.
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Herman Pearl"
> > > <djsoysos@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > That actually sounds pretty cool too!!
> > > > I'm not so much into equal 12 tone controllers
> > > > right now anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > >In this respect, 
> > > > > wouldn't it be more useful/interseting to have a
> > > simple set of touch 
> > > > > plates (maybe 10 in a desktop version or maybe 5
> > > in a module 
> > > > > version??) that can be tuned to individual
> > > intervals rather than 
> > > > > another 1v/octave keyboard? (Kind of like the
> > > original TKB concept 
> > > > > but without all of the individual CV outs and
> > > sequencing ie: perhaps 
> > > > > just 3 voltage outputs: a main plate cv, a
> > > pressure CV and a gate 
> > > > > voltage).  Maybe the module could be equipped
> > > with a USB socket (as 
> > > > > I believe someone else has suggested)instead of
> > > the individual 1/8" 
> > > > > jacks and make use of the existing Doepfer A-100
> > > ribbon controller 
> > > > > interface (a-198)?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > http://www.myspace.com/interconnectedmusic
> > http://www.myspace.com/memorygeist
> > http://www.DiN.org.uk
> > http://www.musicamaximamagnetica.com
> > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > http://www.rubber.gr
> > Athens-Greece
> > 
> > 
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