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today i was looking at some euro drum modules and realized not for the 
first time
that there arent many options.
same goes for voltage controlled dynamic effects (noisegate, compressor...)
the 808 source module from doepfer could be expanded to a series of 
analog drums for example.
do you think there is a demand for a doepfer drum subsystem ?

I would really like it when someone released a drum
module with loads of CV inputs. The ones on the market
now are to static for me.

At the moment i'm allmost finished with a bassdrum
modular, but this is an expencive project (i can make
any bassdrum when finished).

Greets Bruce

--- dab <trafo-dab@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hello Group
> 
> 
> today i was looking at some euro drum modules and
> realized not for the 
> first time
> that there arent many options.
> same goes for voltage controlled dynamic effects
> (noisegate, compressor...)
> the 808 source module from doepfer could be expanded
> to a series of 
> analog drums for example.
> do you think there is a demand for a doepfer drum
> subsystem ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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to static - thats exactly what i thought.



bruce thedekaa schrieb:
>
> I would really like it when someone released a drum
> module with loads of CV inputs. The ones on the market
> now are to static for me.
>
> At the moment i'm allmost finished with a bassdrum
> modular, but this is an expencive project (i can make
> any bassdrum when finished).
>
> Greets Bruce
>
> --- dab <trafo-dab@gmx.de <mailto:trafo-dab%40gmx.de>> wrote:
>
> > Hello Group
> >
> >
> > today i was looking at some euro drum modules and
> > realized not for the
> > first time
> > that there arent many options.
> > same goes for voltage controlled dynamic effects
> > (noisegate, compressor...)
> > the 808 source module from doepfer could be expanded
> > to a series of
> > analog drums for example.
> > do you think there is a demand for a doepfer drum
> > subsystem ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hello

>do you think there is a demand for a doepfer drum
>subsystem ?
What for?

Drum sounds in analogue drum machines are created by classic circuits 
like resonant bandpass filters, oscillators and envelope controlled 
(vulgo voltage controlled) amplifiers, some noise and again and again 
resonant bandpass filters. All these are voltage controllable standard 
modules in a modular system. There come only two special tasks to my 
mind: The cymbal oscillator of the 808 (which is available at Doepfer), 
and the coil based ring noise generators in 70ies drum machines. Only 
the last one is missing in the world of modular synths. Everything els 
is there.

Florian

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:

> What for?
> 
florian,

there are many modules from doepfer that replace a combination
of other modules, which reduce cost and space. i would also prefer to
have, say, five dedicated drum modules instead of five
filters,envelopes,oscillators/noise sources plus any vca's or
whatever. i don't have a room full of modular synthesizer :) i do,
however, like analog drum sounds.

i agree with the others on this thread that the available modules from
analogue solutions, fricke et al are not really worth the bother,
since a vermona or even humble adx-1 offer more flexibility for less
money. a set of modules with significant voltage control would
certainly have its own niche in the market, the question is how large
that market is. 

dieter, have many people mentioned this to you? drum modules are
probably of more interest to those involved in (let's call it)
electronica than the stockhausen department, and i get the impression
that there is a strong increase in interest in modular synthesis from
others like myself who were doing the virus/nord thing ten years ago.

let's keep this thread constructive and not kill it off with what-for?
posts.

stu

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Bulog <d2ba@...> wrote:
>
> In addition to the drum module --I would like to see a
> brand new step sequencer module where you can save
> your sequences and play them back as a pattern and
> chain patterns together to make a song
> 
> cheers Dave
> 

the seq-01 from fricke does most of that:

http://mfberlin.de/Produkte/Module/SEQ-01/seq-01.html

but no chaining together to make songs, as far as i can see. i wonder
how hard it would be to hack the preset selection to be
trigger-controlled...

it's still a pretty interesting module, even for other duties than
drums. and very small. i've got some doepfer modules higher up on my
shopping list, so i still haven't ordered one, but i will sooner or
later :)

stu

In addition to the drum module --I would like to see a
brand new step sequencer module where you can save
your sequences and play them back as a pattern and
chain patterns together to make a song

cheers Dave

--- Stu Grimshaw <grimshaw@stugrimshaw.com> wrote:

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian
> Anwander
> <Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
> 
> > What for?
> > 
> florian,
> 
> there are many modules from doepfer that replace a
> combination
> of other modules, which reduce cost and space. i
> would also prefer to
> have, say, five dedicated drum modules instead of
> five
> filters,envelopes,oscillators/noise sources plus any
> vca's or
> whatever. i don't have a room full of modular
> synthesizer :) i do,
> however, like analog drum sounds.
> 
> i agree with the others on this thread that the
> available modules from
> analogue solutions, fricke et al are not really
> worth the bother,
> since a vermona or even humble adx-1 offer more
> flexibility for less
> money. a set of modules with significant voltage
> control would
> certainly have its own niche in the market, the
> question is how large
> that market is. 
> 
> dieter, have many people mentioned this to you? drum
> modules are
> probably of more interest to those involved in
> (let's call it)
> electronica than the stockhausen department, and i
> get the impression
> that there is a strong increase in interest in
> modular synthesis from
> others like myself who were doing the virus/nord
> thing ten years ago.
> 
> let's keep this thread constructive and not kill it
> off with what-for?
> posts.
> 
> stu
> 
>

Hi Stuart

> i agree with the others on this thread that the available modules from
> analogue solutions, fricke et al are not really worth the bother,
> since a vermona or even humble adx-1 offer more flexibility for less
> money. 
It is true, that vermona adx or similar is fun. I owned a TAMA TS-305 
and sometimes I still regret that I sold it. But I sold it, because I 
had bought also a Jomox Xbase and finally found out the combination of 
the drum sequencer with the drum sound creation is the essence of what 
is really needed by 90 percent of the buyers and me...

> a set of modules with significant voltage control would
> certainly have its own niche in the market, the question is how large
> that market is. 
... and I fear that the niche in the market of those 10 percent is to 
small to survive.

And there is another aspect:
All the available drum modules are based on non voltage controlled 
circuits. These are much easier (and cheaper) to implement than fully 
voltage controlled drum modules.

Florian

The only nice drum module i know is the Cynare from
metalbox. Unfortunately this is not a baskick module. 
Another is a pearl syncussion, but this lacks CV
control.

A snare module with separate controls for the noise
and for the skin would be great (volume/env for
example).

Greets Bruce


--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> 
> > i agree with the others on this thread that the
> available modules from
> > analogue solutions, fricke et al are not really
> worth the bother,
> > since a vermona or even humble adx-1 offer more
> flexibility for less
> > money. 
> It is true, that vermona adx or similar is fun. I
> owned a TAMA TS-305 
> and sometimes I still regret that I sold it. But I
> sold it, because I 
> had bought also a Jomox Xbase and finally found out
> the combination of 
> the drum sequencer with the drum sound creation is
> the essence of what 
> is really needed by 90 percent of the buyers and
> me...
> 
> > a set of modules with significant voltage control
> would
> > certainly have its own niche in the market, the
> question is how large
> > that market is. 
> ... and I fear that the niche in the market of those
> 10 percent is to 
> small to survive.
> 
> And there is another aspect:
> All the available drum modules are based on non
> voltage controlled 
> circuits. These are much easier (and cheaper) to
> implement than fully 
> voltage controlled drum modules.
> 
> Florian
> 



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2008/1/23, David Bulog <d2ba@xtra.co.nz>:
>
>   In addition to the drum module --I would like to see a
> brand new step sequencer module where you can save
> your sequences and play them back as a pattern and
> chain patterns together to make a song
>
>


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