Doepfer

sorry...i said i believed you said fix, i accidently deleted the post before responding...

so now i say it's not a solution, it's a work around...it doesn't deal with the noise of the phase shifter, it masks it...

rg

----- Original Message ----
From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:20:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-125 phaser (noise issue)

that's why i said an easy solution, not a fix ;-)

--- Ross Goniakowski <carfull@sbcglobal. net> wrote:

> i accidently deleted a reply to this post from
> Bakis, i believe he said an easy fix was to use a
> VCA after the phase shifter...
> 
> i don't consider that a fix, i consider that a
> work-around. ..to fix the problem would be to reduce
> the noise level, not hide it...depending on the
> source material, that may or may not be an
> appropriate solution....
> 
> 
> rg
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: astroschnautzer <astroschnautzer@ yahoo.com>
> To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:46:52 AM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-125 phaser (noise issue)
> 
> I just got this module ,seems to work ok besides its
> terribly noisy. My soundcards noisefloor 
> is at about -90db withoout this plugged in whe i
> plug it in it shows -47db so over 40 db of 
> noise... Is this normal for this module or should I
> send it back?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 

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yes, but noise is common in phasers...

--- Ross Goniakowski <carfull@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> sorry...i said i believed you said fix, i accidently
> deleted the post before responding...
> 
> so now i say it's not a solution, it's a work
> around...it doesn't deal with the noise of the phase
> shifter, it masks it...
> 
> rg
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:20:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-125 phaser (noise
> issue)
> 
> that's why i said an easy solution, not a fix ;-)
> 
> --- Ross Goniakowski <carfull@sbcglobal. net> wrote:
> 
> > i accidently deleted a reply to this post from
> > Bakis, i believe he said an easy fix was to use a
> > VCA after the phase shifter...
> > 
> > i don't consider that a fix, i consider that a
> > work-around. ..to fix the problem would be to
> reduce
> > the noise level, not hide it...depending on the
> > source material, that may or may not be an
> > appropriate solution....
> > 
> > 
> > rg
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: astroschnautzer <astroschnautzer@ yahoo.com>
> > To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:46:52 AM
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-125 phaser (noise issue)
> > 
> > I just got this module ,seems to work ok besides
> its
> > terribly noisy. My soundcards noisefloor 
> > is at about -90db withoout this plugged in whe i
> > plug it in it shows -47db so over 40 db of 
> > noise... Is this normal for this module or should
> I
> > send it back?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected /
> Memory Geist
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel -worlds-music. com
> http://www.myspace. com/parallelworl dsmusic
> http://www.myspace. com/interconnect edmusic
> http://www.myspace. com/memorygeist
> http://www.DiN. org.uk
> http://www.musicama ximamagnetica. com
> http://www.shimarec ords.co.uk
> http://www.rubber. gr
> Athens-Greece
> 
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> 


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> I have an idea to get specially made a 10hp/te module that will  
> have a 6 x  6 pin sockets so you can power some Roland 100m modules
ie it will be cool to use the Roland modules loose  without the huge  
191j chassis---
Has anyone tried anything like this with a 1200ma A100p


thanks Dave



> making a psu would be very simple, for example
> http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=522032
> together with a suitable transformer


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/apr95/ 
rolandsystem100m.html

Should you manage to get hold of a module but haven't a rack to power  
it, there is a solution. If you can handle a soldering iron, then  
something like the Maplin +/-15v (100ma) PSU should suffice (part  
number LP88V). You need to make up a lead with an 8-pin DIN plug  
(part number FJ91Y -- see connections list below) at one end to  
supply the module. Warning! Don't attempt to connect a 100M module to  
anything other than a Roland rack unless you are confident that you  
won't damage the module with an incorrectly wired plug or PSU.  
Mistakes can be expensive.

System 100M 8-pin DIN plug connections are as follows:

� Pin 1 PSU +5v
� Pin 2 gate
� Pin 3 no pin
� Pin 4 LED +
� Pin 5 Trigger
� Pin 6 PSU -15v
� Pin 7 PSU ground
� Pin 8 CV
� Pin 9 LED ground

While we're on the subject, here are the connections for the 6-pin  
leads that link 100M racks to other racks or keyboards; use Maplin  
part number HH29G for the 6-pin plug. If you're linking racks, don't  
connect pins 1 and 2, but use all pins when connecting a 100M keyboard.

� Pin 1 PSU -15v
� Pin 2 PSU +15v
� Pin 3 gate
� Pin 4 trigger
� Pin 5 PSU ground
� Pin 6 CV

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Hi Dave,

The 100m modules use +/-15V for the critical circuits and a separate
+22V (unregulated) line for the LEDs. The Doepfer supplies are a
straight +/-12V and are hence not compatible with the 100m Modules.
You would need to modify the supply (and probably use a different
transformer) in order for this to work. I reckon you would be better
off building a PSU Kit to do this. You can Email me if you want me to
point you to some good PSU designs.

Cheers,
Adam-V
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Bulog <d2ba@...> wrote:

>
> > I have an idea to get specially made a 10hp/te module that will  
> > have a 6 x  6 pin sockets so you can power some Roland 100m modules
> ie it will be cool to use the Roland modules loose  without the huge  
> 191j chassis---
> Has anyone tried anything like this with a 1200ma A100p
> 
> 
> thanks Dave
> 
> 
>

> > I have an idea to get specially made a 10hp/te module that will  
> > have a 6 x  6 pin sockets so you can power some Roland 100m modules
> ie it will be cool to use the Roland modules loose  without the huge  
> 191j chassis---
> Has anyone tried anything like this with a 1200ma A100p
> 
> thanks Dave

Roland's system 100M runs with +/-15V !

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer