Doepfer

Hi folks, thanks to everyone for info regarding my queries :)
Florian: the question re polyphonic Doepfer was more for interest than 
practice...yep def the cost of a mddle class car lol ;). What i had in 
my head was that multiple gate leads would trigger the notes via  
ADSR's, and multiple cv leads would be plugged in cv sockets on VCO's, 
and that in addition there would be other various modules ( filters, 
LFO's etc...). Somehow MIDI would enter the equation as well. Pahaps 
the no longer available MCV24 was meant to accomplish all this?

i would nevertheless be interested to hear from anyone who knows a
midi to cv interface that can allocate, say, four voices.

florian, i kind of half agree with you. to make your most interesting
patches polyphonic would cost a fortune. but that's ignoring the
cheapo and/or lofi sounds that are waiting to be discovered by someone
daft enough to put the time in.

if we could hypothetically start with a three voice synth (and i dare
say that's enough for many of us :-)) we could have:

mfb triple oscillator
3x a120 vcf
a143-2 quad adsr
2x a132 dual vca
a145 lfo
a138 mixer
and a few multiples

doubtless i've forgotten something, but we're still way off the price
of a poly evolver. we have fewer possibilities, but different ones,
(especially if we route everything back into everything else) and
we've hopefully got a few quid left in the bank to start expanding it
in our own personal individual ways. or replace the mfb with four
a110's or whatever.

if i had a suitable midi interface, i'd post something to hear. but i
don't. voice allocation is simple with max/msp, but i'd still need
four a190's.

anyone know of anything?

cheers, stu

splendid news dieter! 

four voices with four cv's would be great. but pitch bend and modwheel
would be common to all voices, and would only need two outputs,
meaning four voices with three outputs (presumably note, velocity and
poly aftertouch), common outputs for pitch and mod and...channel pressure?

five voices makes sense for those who occasionally muff a four voice
chord by brushing briefly against another key. actually, this happens
a lot. i know five's not a power of two, but i think it makes a lot of
sense to include such an option.

you intend to release this as a module? also good. if you need a beta
tester let me know :)

stu

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <hardware@...> wrote:
>
> > i would nevertheless be interested to hear from anyone who knows a
> > midi to cv interface that can allocate, say, four voices.
> 
> We are working on such an interface. Probably with 16 CV outputs and
much
> easier to use than the MCV24 (and much cheaper). The hardware is
ready (was
> used for the new robot control for KRAFTWERK) but I have no idea when it
> will be available as a module. We still have to define the different
modes
> (only a few will be available, e.g. 8 x 1 voice monophonic with
pitch and
> velocity CV, 4 x 1 voice polyphonic with 4 CVs per voice and the
same for
> polyphonic modes). It will be not free programmable but offer only a few
> often used modes.
> 
> I have no idea when it will be available as there are a lot of other
things

> to do before. We have to make one step after the other ...
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter
>

> i would nevertheless be interested to hear from anyone who knows a
> midi to cv interface that can allocate, say, four voices.

We are working on such an interface. Probably with 16 CV outputs and much
easier to use than the MCV24 (and much cheaper). The hardware is ready (was
used for the new robot control for KRAFTWERK) but I have no idea when it
will be available as a module. We still have to define the different modes
(only a few will be available, e.g. 8 x 1 voice monophonic with pitch and
velocity CV, 4 x 1 voice polyphonic with 4 CVs per voice and the same for
polyphonic modes). It will be not free programmable but offer only a few
often used modes.

I have no idea when it will be available as there are a lot of other things
to do before. We have to make one step after the other ...

Best wishes
Dieter

> four voices with four cv's would be great. but pitch bend and modwheel
> would be common to all voices

only in the poly modes, not in the mono modes !

> you intend to release this as a module?

yes.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

>
> > four voices with four cv's would be great. but pitch bend and modwheel
> > would be common to all voices
> 
> only in the poly modes, not in the mono modes !

ach ja. sorry, i was temporarily made stupid by the joy of
anticipation (for want of a better translation of vorfreude) of a poly
midi module.

stu

Stu,
 
In answer to your question about midi/cv interfaces that support poly
mode. My Kenton Pro 4 does that.
 
Not sure about their existing range but maybe worth a look.
 
david
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>
> > four voices with four cv's would be great. but pitch bend and
modwheel
> > would be common to all voices
> 
> only in the poly modes, not in the mono modes !

ach ja. sorry, i was temporarily made stupid by the joy of
anticipation (for want of a better translation of vorfreude) of a poly
midi module.

stu



 


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>>i would nevertheless be interested to hear from anyone who knows a midi to cv interface that can allocate, say, four voices.


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Hi Stuart

> florian, i kind of half agree with you. to make your most interesting
> patches polyphonic would cost a fortune. but that's ignoring the
> cheapo and/or lofi sounds that are waiting to be discovered by someone
> daft enough to put the time in.

I did not tell him not to buy a doepfer system, I only said, that for 
classic polyphonice usage a analogue hardware modular system has not the 
best bang to buck relation.

Florian

Hi Dieter

> will be available as a module. We still have to define the different modes
> (only a few will be available, e.g. 8 x 1 voice monophonic with pitch and
> velocity CV, 4 x 1 voice polyphonic with 4 CVs per voice and the same for
> polyphonic modes). It will be not free programmable but offer only a few
> often used modes.
Hmmm, sounds to me like the good old MCV8 laying here around... ;-)

Florian

The PolyDAC does all this and it will soon be available in a EuroRack format 
http://www.elby-designs.com/polydac/polydac-about.htm

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> Stu,
>
> In answer to your question about midi/cv interfaces that support poly
> mode. My Kenton Pro 4 does that.
>
> Not sure about their existing range but maybe worth a look.
>
> david
> David Salter
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> On Behalf Of Stu Grimshaw
> Sent: 07 March 2008 12:15
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> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: 3 questions
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>> > four voices with four cv's would be great. but pitch bend and
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>> only in the poly modes, not in the mono modes !
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> midi module.
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