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2008-10-30 by Frequency Divider
just for the record: i think that in the past there has been talk already about a digital delay that would be capable of delaying gate and cv. i still think that would be a very nice thing to have greetings, anton
2008-10-30 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> just for the record: i think that in the past there has been talk > already about a digital delay that would be capable of delaying gate and > cv. i still think that would be a very nice thing to have > > greetings, anton The planned digital delay/sampler module will be DC coupled. Consequently it can be used to record CV and gate signals too (usually at a lower sample rate to obtain longer delays). Best wishes Dieter Doepfer P.S. I'm not in the office for four days. So there will be no comments from me for this period.
2008-10-30 by Bakis Sirros
so, should i not make a poll for a dc-coupled version of the proposed vc samper module by florian? or? Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. shimarecords. co. uk www. rubberrecords. gr Athens - Greece --- On Thu, 10/30/08, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de>
Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Let me hear your bright new ideas for future
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 6:42 PM
> just for the record: i think that in the past there has been talk
> already about a digital delay that would be capable of delaying gate and
> cv. i still think that would be a very nice thing to have
>
> greetings, anton
The planned digital delay/sampler module will be DC coupled. Consequently it
can be used to record CV and gate signals too (usually at a lower sample
rate to obtain longer delays).
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
P.S. I'm not in the office for four days. So there will be no comments from
me for this period.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2008-10-30 by Don Kim
Awesome! I will definately pick it up if it can record LFOs and slow envelopes as well as audio, I'm more interested in the CV side, there's other samplers out there, but a high quality CV/waveform recorder playback device, like a recordable Miniwave, would be perfection. Like Himmel. :D -Don
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote: >> just for the record: i think that in the past there has been talk >> already about a digital delay that would be capable of delaying gate and >> cv. i still think that would be a very nice thing to have >> >> greetings, anton > > The planned digital delay/sampler module will be DC coupled. Consequently it > can be used to record CV and gate signals too (usually at a lower sample > rate to obtain longer delays). > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > P.S. I'm not in the office for four days. So there will be no comments from > me for this period. > >
2008-10-30 by ilanode
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted <the_ersatz_planet@...> wrote: > > I have just posted 3 ideas for a USB Mouse module to the photo > section on the newsgroup site. > > http://launch.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/photos/browse/8b4d Great! Especially the full featured one! Rgds, Ingo
> > All versions have CV outs for left/right, Forward/back and wheel Up/ > down. I see this as a bipolar voltage that acts like the mouse - it > is additive in that if you lift the mouse up and then continues it > will just add and subtract from the last setting till it reaches it's > full range and just stays there. The knob scales the sensitivity of > the mouse Not it's range which would be -5v to +5V. They all also > have a Position Reset button that returns the CV outs to Zero position. > > The fist one is the most basic and was designed using the same > metalwork as the A-198 Ribbon controller module to save cost. Because > of that it only has one button gate outs. A led shows when the button > is pushed and another lights when the mouse is moved. > > The second version is the 2-button version and has gate outs for both > left and right buttons. > > The third version is the full feature set version. It has 2 button > out gates but also gate outs that go high when the mouse is moved in > that axis or when the wheel is moved. Because of space restraints the > Position Reset button has been removed but it's function can be > replaced with the wheel button on the mouse. > > Of course a mouse does not have to be used. Any USB controller that > delivers mouse-like data can be used as long as they don't need > special drivers. Things like touch pads, trackballs, flight stick, > and steering wheel game controllers all have versions that you can > buy that output standard mouse control data. > -James >
2008-10-30 by James Husted
I have just posted 3 ideas for a USB Mouse module to the photo section on the newsgroup site. http://launch.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/photos/browse/8b4d All versions have CV outs for left/right, Forward/back and wheel Up/ down. I see this as a bipolar voltage that acts like the mouse - it is additive in that if you lift the mouse up and then continues it will just add and subtract from the last setting till it reaches it's full range and just stays there. The knob scales the sensitivity of the mouse Not it's range which would be -5v to +5V. They all also have a Position Reset button that returns the CV outs to Zero position. The fist one is the most basic and was designed using the same metalwork as the A-198 Ribbon controller module to save cost. Because of that it only has one button gate outs. A led shows when the button is pushed and another lights when the mouse is moved. The second version is the 2-button version and has gate outs for both left and right buttons. The third version is the full feature set version. It has 2 button out gates but also gate outs that go high when the mouse is moved in that axis or when the wheel is moved. Because of space restraints the Position Reset button has been removed but it's function can be replaced with the wheel button on the mouse. Of course a mouse does not have to be used. Any USB controller that delivers mouse-like data can be used as long as they don't need special drivers. Things like touch pads, trackballs, flight stick, and steering wheel game controllers all have versions that you can buy that output standard mouse control data. -James
2008-10-30 by Christophe Stoelinga
Could I suggest a 4th version of the USB Mouse module? It would be like the 3rd, but some of those controllers (wacom pad and some touch pads) are pressure sensitive. That would be great to have on CV too. Another extra feature that would sound cool to me is a switch that switches between speed and position (the difference would be integrating the speed to get the position). The wheel would always be position. The horizontal and veritcal motion gate could be combined in one, same for the h/v scale knob. Christophe --- On Thu, 10/30/08, ilanode <techmeier@web.de> wrote:
From: ilanode <techmeier@web.de>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Let me hear your bright new ideas for future-Mouse Module
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 9:01 PM
--- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, James Husted
<the_ersatz_ planet@.. .> wrote:
>
> I have just posted 3 ideas for a USB Mouse module to the photo
> section on the newsgroup site.
>
> http://launch. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/Doepfer_ a100/photos/ browse/8b4d
Great! Especially the full featured one! Rgds, Ingo
>
> All versions have CV outs for left/right, Forward/back and wheel Up/
> down. I see this as a bipolar voltage that acts like the mouse - it
> is additive in that if you lift the mouse up and then continues it
> will just add and subtract from the last setting till it reaches it's
> full range and just stays there. The knob scales the sensitivity of
> the mouse Not it's range which would be -5v to +5V. They all also
> have a Position Reset button that returns the CV outs to Zero position.
>
> The fist one is the most basic and was designed using the same
> metalwork as the A-198 Ribbon controller module to save cost. Because
> of that it only has one button gate outs. A led shows when the button
> is pushed and another lights when the mouse is moved.
>
> The second version is the 2-button version and has gate outs for both
> left and right buttons.
>
> The third version is the full feature set version. It has 2 button
> out gates but also gate outs that go high when the mouse is moved in
> that axis or when the wheel is moved. Because of space restraints the
> Position Reset button has been removed but it's function can be
> replaced with the wheel button on the mouse.
>
> Of course a mouse does not have to be used. Any USB controller that
> delivers mouse-like data can be used as long as they don't need
> special drivers. Things like touch pads, trackballs, flight stick,
> and steering wheel game controllers all have versions that you can
> buy that output standard mouse control data.
> -James
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2008-10-30 by James Husted
I thought of the other options available with other controllers and the problem lies in special drivers needed to implement non-standard non-mouse functions. I would love a Wacom tablet controller (with mapped zones and pressure etc) but that would require a more sophisticated module that would need programming for all the different special USB devices. At that point the OSC module suggested would be better - translating any controller plugged into the host computer to CV voltages. Unfortunately to make the unit cost effective you have to make it simple and generic. The combining of the X/Y motion gates is probably a good idea since it would probably be hard to make only come on without also making the other as well. Try moving the mouse only in one axis. The scale knobs made as one is probably a good idea too - most likely having separate scaling would be uncommon. Of course this is an atypical module - I think of it as a variation of a Joystick module that is allot easier to control and predict it's output. It would be fun to use and probably cheap to make with a simple micro-controller chip. -James
On Oct 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Christophe Stoelinga wrote: > Could I suggest a 4th version of the USB Mouse module? It would be > like the 3rd, but some of those controllers (wacom pad and some > touch pads) are pressure sensitive. That would be great to have on > CV too. Another extra feature that would sound cool to me is a > switch that switches between speed and position (the difference > would be integrating the speed to get the position). The wheel > would always be position. The horizontal and veritcal motion gate > could be combined in one, same for the h/v scale knob. > > Christophe > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, ilanode <techmeier@web.de> wrote: > From: ilanode <techmeier@web.de> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Let me hear your bright new ideas for > future-Mouse Module > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 9:01 PM > >
2008-10-30 by Christophe Stoelinga
That makes sense. I think you can have mapped zones by using a comparator (A-167) on the output of the position CV's. (Well, I think, I don't have the A-167). I like the mouse/touchpad over the joystick because the mouse sits horizontal on the tabletop verses the joystick that is mounted vertical (usually). Christophe --- On Thu, 10/30/08, James Husted <the_ersatz_planet@mac.com> wrote:
> From: James Husted <the_ersatz_planet@mac.com> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Let me hear your bright new ideas for future-Mouse Module > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 10:30 PM > I thought of the other options available with other > controllers and > the problem lies in special drivers needed to implement > non-standard > non-mouse functions. I would love a Wacom tablet controller > (with > mapped zones and pressure etc) but that would require a > more > sophisticated module that would need programming for all > the > different special USB devices. At that point the OSC module > suggested > would be better - translating any controller plugged into > the host > computer to CV voltages. Unfortunately to make the unit > cost > effective you have to make it simple and generic. The > combining of > the X/Y motion gates is probably a good idea since it would > probably > be hard to make only come on without also making the other > as well. > Try moving the mouse only in one axis. The scale knobs made > as one is > probably a good idea too - most likely having separate > scaling would > be uncommon. Of course this is an atypical module - I think > of it as > a variation of a Joystick module that is allot easier to > control and > predict it's output. It would be fun to use and > probably cheap to > make with a simple micro-controller chip. > -James > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Christophe Stoelinga wrote: > > > Could I suggest a 4th version of the USB Mouse module? > It would be > > like the 3rd, but some of those controllers (wacom pad > and some > > touch pads) are pressure sensitive. That would be > great to have on > > CV too. Another extra feature that would sound cool to > me is a > > switch that switches between speed and position (the > difference > > would be integrating the speed to get the position). > The wheel > > would always be position. The horizontal and veritcal > motion gate > > could be combined in one, same for the h/v scale knob. > > > > Christophe > > > > --- On Thu, 10/30/08, ilanode <techmeier@web.de> > wrote: > > From: ilanode <techmeier@web.de> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Let me hear your bright > new ideas for > > future-Mouse Module > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 9:01 PM > > > >
2008-10-30 by Don Kim
I still like the OSC 2 CV module idea, it's more open ended, the way a modular system should be. :)
2008-10-31 by tkrakowiak
ok. how about a silence module. one out and a volume knob to control an amount of calmness? t
2008-10-31 by Brandon Daniel
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:38 PM, tkrakowiak <traktorman@gmail.com> wrote: > ok. how about a silence module. one out and a volume knob to control > an amount of calmness? Also doubles as a no-pass filter! -Brandon
2008-10-31 by Frequency Divider
not to be confused with the 'just passing through' filter Brandon Daniel schreef:
> > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:38 PM, tkrakowiak <traktorman@gmail.com > <mailto:traktorman%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > ok. how about a silence module. one out and a volume knob to control > > an amount of calmness? > > Also doubles as a no-pass filter! > > -Brandon > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1758 - Release Date: 10/31/2008 8:22 AM >
2008-10-31 by Bakis Sirros
ok, idea noted. ;-) Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. shimarecords. co. uk www. rubberrecords. gr Athens - Greece --- On Fri, 10/31/08, tkrakowiak <traktorman@gmail.com> wrote:
From: tkrakowiak <traktorman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Let me hear your bright new ideas for future-Mouse Module
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:38 PM
ok. how about a silence module. one out and a volume knob to control
an amount of calmness?
t
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2008-11-01 by gribus88
1- @ Silence module.Most of you are kidding. But it is sometimes worthwhile or confronting to just stop the automated music for a period, or a part. (you can always switch it back on !). The knob could be a fader, and a normal switch and a momentary switch could be useful. Not for the fainthearted.+) 2- There was sometime ago a demand for a envelope generator. Not AR or ADSR but 4 levels and 4 rates. Like a DX-7 or the Roland samplers. Try it and you don't understand why almost everybody has still the ADSR. ADSR is meant for organsounds, with a clickattack if you want. I have the looping Quad-ADSR, which is a step forward. But the level after the attack faze is always 100procent in the ADSR, and that is limiting. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote: > > ok, idea noted. ;-) > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > www. parallel - worlds - music. com > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist > www. DiN. org. uk > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com > www. shimarecords. co. uk > www. rubberrecords. gr > Athens - Greece > > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, tkrakowiak <traktorman@...> wrote: > > From: tkrakowiak <traktorman@...> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Let me hear your bright new ideas for future-Mouse Module
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:38 PM > > > > > > > ok. how about a silence module. one out and a volume knob to control > an amount of calmness? > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2008-11-01 by Bakis Sirros
ok, idea #2 noted. there was a poll about such an advanced envelope module in the past, but i'll create one again. Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. shimarecords. co. uk www. rubberrecords. gr Athens - Greece --- On Sat, 11/1/08, gribus88 <guido7@xs4all.nl> wrote:
From: gribus88 <guido7@xs4all.nl>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Let me hear your bright new ideas for future-Mouse Module
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 2:44 PM
1- @ Silence module.Most of you are kidding.
But it is sometimes
worthwhile or confronting to just stop
the automated music for a period, or a part.
(you can always switch it back on !).
The knob could be a fader, and a normal
switch and a momentary switch could be
useful.
Not for the fainthearted. +)
2- There was sometime ago a demand for a
envelope generator. Not AR or ADSR but
4 levels and 4 rates. Like a DX-7 or the
Roland samplers.
Try it and you don't understand why almost
everybody has still the ADSR.
ADSR is meant for organsounds, with a
clickattack if you want.
I have the looping Quad-ADSR, which is a
step forward. But the level after
the attack faze is always 100procent in the
ADSR, and that is limiting.
--- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_ 2000@...> wrote:
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> ok, idea noted. ;-)
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> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> www. DiN. org. uk
> www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
> www. shimarecords. co. uk
> www. rubberrecords. gr
> Athens - Greece
>
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> From: tkrakowiak <traktorman@ ...>
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Let me hear your bright new ideas
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> To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com
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