Doepfer

Hi folks, is the A-183-2 (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm) for real? I 
want four! This is exactly what I am after. Especially this part:

"The amplification range for the input will be probably 0...+2 in the 
attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the maximum 
amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to amplify CV 
or audio signals (for other amplifications only the value of a 
resistor has to be changed)."

Oh, and being able to amplify audio through this thing would be 
useful. Perhaps all you experts can tell me there is an alternative 
out there already. I'm surprised I can't simply amplify audio (gain > 
1). I must be doing it wrong.

The A119 does it perfectly well.


On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Doug <dougc356@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hi folks, is the A-183-2 (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm) for real? I
> want four! This is exactly what I am after. Especially this part:
>
> "The amplification range for the input will be probably 0...+2 in the
> attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the maximum
> amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to amplify CV
> or audio signals (for other amplifications only the value of a
> resistor has to be changed)."
>
> Oh, and being able to amplify audio through this thing would be
> useful. Perhaps all you experts can tell me there is an alternative
> out there already. I'm surprised I can't simply amplify audio (gain >
> 1). I must be doing it wrong.
>
>  
>


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The A-119 does gain you mean? Okay, so now I'm going to get picky. 
Do I have to spend 8HP to get a single channel of audio gain?

Maybe this is the DIY project I've been longing for ;)

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, achtung_999 
<heinrich.himmelwasser@...> wrote:
>
> The A119 does it perfectly well.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Doug <dougc356@...> wrote:
> 
> >   Hi folks, is the A-183-2 (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm) for 
real? I
> > want four! This is exactly what I am after. Especially this part:
> >
> > "The amplification range for the input will be probably 0...+2 
in the
> > attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the 
maximum
> > amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to 
amplify CV
> > or audio signals (for other amplifications only the value of a
> > resistor has to be changed)."
> >
> > Oh, and being able to amplify audio through this thing would be
> > useful. Perhaps all you experts can tell me there is an 
alternative
> > out there already. I'm surprised I can't simply amplify audio 
(gain >

> > 1). I must be doing it wrong.
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

It's a pre-amp. So yes, it does gain.But it is doing a lot more! It's also
an envelope follower and a gate/trigger generator.

Be careful though it can also distort your signal like crazy, if you are not
careful.

In the video I posted earlier I use it to amplify the output of the A128
fixed filter bank, which tends to be fairly soft mostly.

Greetings,

Ernst





On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Doug <dougc356@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   The A-119 does gain you mean? Okay, so now I'm going to get picky.
> Do I have to spend 8HP to get a single channel of audio gain?
>
> Maybe this is the DIY project I've been longing for ;)
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> achtung_999
> <heinrich.himmelwasser@...> wrote:
> >
> > The A119 does it perfectly well.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Doug <dougc356@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi folks, is the A-183-2 (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm) for
> real? I
> > > want four! This is exactly what I am after. Especially this part:
> > >
> > > "The amplification range for the input will be probably 0...+2
> in the
> > > attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the
> maximum
> > > amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to
> amplify CV
> > > or audio signals (for other amplifications only the value of a
> > > resistor has to be changed)."
> > >
> > > Oh, and being able to amplify audio through this thing would be
> > > useful. Perhaps all you experts can tell me there is an
> alternative
> > > out there already. I'm surprised I can't simply amplify audio
> (gain >
> > > 1). I must be doing it wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Okay so is the A-183-2 really be coming out in a month or so, or has 
it changed?

2) Will it possibly be able to handle audio so that I can use it to 
amplify audio with gain>1? 

3) Is the A-119 really the standard answer (really the only 
reasonable answer)for audio gain in euro format? 

3b) Is this ridiculous situation?

4) Should I just DIY a module and make an entry into the modular 
market?

5) Does anyone care?

6) Have you seen that latest whiz bang module from A$$ Plunderers R 
Us?

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, achtung_999 
<heinrich.himmelwasser@...> wrote:
>
> It's a pre-amp. So yes, it does gain.But it is doing a lot more! 
It's also
> an envelope follower and a gate/trigger generator.
> 
> Be careful though it can also distort your signal like crazy, if 
you are not
> careful.
> 
> In the video I posted earlier I use it to amplify the output of 
the A128
> fixed filter bank, which tends to be fairly soft mostly.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Ernst
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Doug <dougc356@...> wrote:
> 
> >   The A-119 does gain you mean? Okay, so now I'm going to get 
picky.
> > Do I have to spend 8HP to get a single channel of audio gain?
> >
> > Maybe this is the DIY project I've been longing for ;)
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > achtung_999
> > <heinrich.himmelwasser@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The A119 does it perfectly well.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Doug <dougc356@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi folks, is the A-183-2 (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm) 
for
> > real? I
> > > > want four! This is exactly what I am after. Especially this 
part:
> > > >
> > > > "The amplification range for the input will be probably 
0...+2
> > in the
> > > > attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the
> > maximum
> > > > amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to
> > amplify CV
> > > > or audio signals (for other amplifications only the value of 
a
> > > > resistor has to be changed)."
> > > >
> > > > Oh, and being able to amplify audio through this thing would 
be

> > > > useful. Perhaps all you experts can tell me there is an
> > alternative
> > > > out there already. I'm surprised I can't simply amplify audio
> > (gain >
> > > > 1). I must be doing it wrong.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs70.htm
But you'll have to deign to the level of AS.

Interesting how the answer is often, "...AS has that..."


On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Doug <dougc356@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Okay so is the A-183-2 really be coming out in a month or so, or has
> it changed?
>
> 2) Will it possibly be able to handle audio so that I can use it to
> amplify audio with gain>1?
>
> 3) Is the A-119 really the standard answer (really the only
> reasonable answer)for audio gain in euro format?
>
> 3b) Is this ridiculous situation?
>
> 4) Should I just DIY a module and make an entry into the modular
> market?
>
> 5) Does anyone care?
>
> 6) Have you seen that latest whiz bang module from A$$ Plunderers R
> Us?
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> achtung_999
> <heinrich.himmelwasser@...> wrote:
> >
> > It's a pre-amp. So yes, it does gain.But it is doing a lot more!
> It's also
> > an envelope follower and a gate/trigger generator.
> >
> > Be careful though it can also distort your signal like crazy, if
> you are not
> > careful.
> >
> > In the video I posted earlier I use it to amplify the output of
> the A128
> > fixed filter bank, which tends to be fairly soft mostly.
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Ernst
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Doug <dougc356@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The A-119 does gain you mean? Okay, so now I'm going to get
> picky.
> > > Do I have to spend 8HP to get a single channel of audio gain?
> > >
> > > Maybe this is the DIY project I've been longing for ;)
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><Doepfer_a100%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > achtung_999
> > > <heinrich.himmelwasser@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The A119 does it perfectly well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Doug <dougc356@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi folks, is the A-183-2 (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm)
> for
> > > real? I
> > > > > want four! This is exactly what I am after. Especially this
> part:
> > > > >
> > > > > "The amplification range for the input will be probably
> 0...+2
> > > in the
> > > > > attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the
> > > maximum
> > > > > amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to
> > > amplify CV
> > > > > or audio signals (for other amplifications only the value of
> a
> > > > > resistor has to be changed)."
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, and being able to amplify audio through this thing would
> be
> > > > > useful. Perhaps all you experts can tell me there is an
> > > alternative
> > > > > out there already. I'm surprised I can't simply amplify audio
> > > (gain >
> > > > > 1). I must be doing it wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello Doug

I don't own this module, but I recently became able to read and 
understand what I am reading. So now I can can read the description on 
the website and I will answer with that superior knowledge:

> 2) Will it possibly be able to handle audio so that I can use it to 
> amplify audio with gain>1? 
Yes. It will be able to double the incoming amplitude.

> 3) Is the A-119 really the standard answer (really the only 
> reasonable answer)for audio gain in euro format? 
No. The 183-2 will be the second standard answer. And also it was always 
dead simple to change the gain of the input channels of mixers or 
filtes. And of course there are other brands, which offer modules with 
possiblities like that.

> 3b) Is this ridiculous situation?
No.

> 4) Should I just DIY a module and make an entry into the modular 
> market?
Go on and get wealthy and rich; there are a lot of people who started as 
unknown module makers and which today own mansions on the Côte d' Azur, 
yachts with pool and all the other basic things...

> 5) Does anyone care?
No. But some laugh about.

Florian

(unfortunately the gigantic sarcastic smiley in the background of this 
mail got lost in ASCII-transfer)

Oh yeah, there is also this highly non-ridiculous module, already available:
 http://www.doepfer.de/A133.htm

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Doug <dougc356@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Okay so is the A-183-2 really be coming out in a month or so, or has
> it changed?
>
> 2) Will it possibly be able to handle audio so that I can use it to
> amplify audio with gain>1?
>
> 3) Is the A-119 really the standard answer (really the only
> reasonable answer)for audio gain in euro format?
>
> 3b) Is this ridiculous situation?
>
> 4) Should I just DIY a module and make an entry into the modular
> market?
>
> 5) Does anyone care?
>
> 6) Have you seen that latest whiz bang module from A$$ Plunderers R
> Us?
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> achtung_999
> <heinrich.himmelwasser@...> wrote:
> >
> > It's a pre-amp. So yes, it does gain.But it is doing a lot more!
> It's also
> > an envelope follower and a gate/trigger generator.
> >
> > Be careful though it can also distort your signal like crazy, if
> you are not
> > careful.
> >
> > In the video I posted earlier I use it to amplify the output of
> the A128
> > fixed filter bank, which tends to be fairly soft mostly.
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Ernst
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Doug <dougc356@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The A-119 does gain you mean? Okay, so now I'm going to get
> picky.
> > > Do I have to spend 8HP to get a single channel of audio gain?
> > >
> > > Maybe this is the DIY project I've been longing for ;)
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><Doepfer_a100%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > achtung_999
> > > <heinrich.himmelwasser@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The A119 does it perfectly well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Doug <dougc356@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi folks, is the A-183-2 (http://www.doepfer.de/a1832.htm)
> for
> > > real? I
> > > > > want four! This is exactly what I am after. Especially this
> part:
> > > > >
> > > > > "The amplification range for the input will be probably
> 0...+2
> > > in the
> > > > > attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the
> > > maximum
> > > > > amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to
> > > amplify CV
> > > > > or audio signals (for other amplifications only the value of
> a
> > > > > resistor has to be changed)."
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, and being able to amplify audio through this thing would
> be
> > > > > useful. Perhaps all you experts can tell me there is an
> > > alternative
> > > > > out there already. I'm surprised I can't simply amplify audio
> > > (gain >
> > > > > 1). I must be doing it wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


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A133 Dual VC Polarizer



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--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Doug <dougc356@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Doug <dougc356@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-183-2 Please say it's true
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:25 AM










    
            Okay so is the A-183-2 really be coming out in a month or so, or has 

it changed?



2) Will it possibly be able to handle audio so that I can use it to 

amplify audio with gain>1? 



3) Is the A-119 really the standard answer (really the only 

reasonable answer)for audio gain in euro format? 



3b) Is this ridiculous situation?



4) Should I just DIY a module and make an entry into the modular 

market?



5) Does anyone care?



6) Have you seen that latest whiz bang module from A$$ Plunderers R 

Us?



--- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, achtung_999 

<heinrich.himmelwas ser@...> wrote:

>

> It's a pre-amp. So yes, it does gain.But it is doing a lot more! 

It's also

> an envelope follower and a gate/trigger generator.

> 

> Be careful though it can also distort your signal like crazy, if 

you are not

> careful.

> 

> In the video I posted earlier I use it to amplify the output of 

the A128

> fixed filter bank, which tends to be fairly soft mostly.

> 

> Greetings,

> 

> Ernst

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Doug <dougc356@.. .> wrote:

> 

> >   The A-119 does gain you mean? Okay, so now I'm going to get 

picky.

> > Do I have to spend 8HP to get a single channel of audio gain?

> >

> > Maybe this is the DIY project I've been longing for ;)

> >

> > --- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com <Doepfer_a100%

40yahoogroups. com>,

> > achtung_999

> > <heinrich.himmelwas ser@> wrote:

> > >

> > > The A119 does it perfectly well.

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Doug <dougc356@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi folks, is the A-183-2 (http://www.doepfer. de/a1832. htm) 

for

> > real? I

> > > > want four! This is exactly what I am after. Especially this 

part:

> > > >

> > > > "The amplification range for the input will be probably 

0...+2

> > in the

> > > > attenuator mode, and -2...+2 in the polarizer mode, i.e. the

> > maximum

> > > > amplification will be x2 and the module can be used also to

> > amplify CV

> > > > or audio signals (for other amplifications only the value of 

a

> > > > resistor has to be changed)."

> > > >

> > > > Oh, and being able to amplify audio through this thing would 

be

> > > > useful. Perhaps all you experts can tell me there is an

> > alternative

> > > > out there already. I'm surprised I can't simply amplify audio

> > (gain >

> > > > 1). I must be doing it wrong.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> >

> >  

> >

> 

> 

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>




      

    
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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> Okay so is the A-183-2 really be coming out in a month or so, or has
> it changed?

So far we have no release date for the A-138m (Matrix Mixer), A-183-1 (Dual
Attenuator) and A-183-2 (Offset Generator/Attenuator/Polarizer). Custom made
potentiometers will be used in these modules and we are still waiting for
the samples of the manufacturer. As soon as the samples arrive we will test
them and if they are OK I expect that the modules will be available ~ April.
If the potentiometer samples will not fit the release date has to be
postponed

> 2) Will it possibly be able to handle audio so that I can use it to
> amplify audio with gain>1?

yes (max. 2), for other max. amplifications the module has to be modified
(changing the value of a resistor)

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Thanks for the replies!

Maybe too late, but

Wouldn't the A-183-2 be more valuable, if it had simple mixer function too? There is room (at least if omitting the second output) for a unity gain input.

Since I have A-133, I would prefer 0...+1 and -1...+1 amplification ranges instead of 0...+2 and -2...+2.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote:

>
> > Okay so is the A-183-2 really be coming out in a month or so, or has
> > it changed?
> 
> So far we have no release date for the A-138m (Matrix Mixer), A-183-1 (Dual
> Attenuator) and A-183-2 (Offset Generator/Attenuator/Polarizer). Custom made
> potentiometers will be used in these modules and we are still waiting for
> the samples of the manufacturer. As soon as the samples arrive we will test
> them and if they are OK I expect that the modules will be available ~ April.
> If the potentiometer samples will not fit the release date has to be
> postponed
> 
> > 2) Will it possibly be able to handle audio so that I can use it to
> > amplify audio with gain>1?
> 
> yes (max. 2), for other max. amplifications the module has to be modified
> (changing the value of a resistor)
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>