Doepfer

Maybe they (or us) could come up with some VC parameters (speed, direction,
length, feedback? (I'm making these things up as I go along)) that would
make the module unique from other delay modules currently on the market?
Besides, although some modules from other manufacturers might be compatible
in terms of hardware, it seems that most of us stick to one brand, making it
perfectly acceptable (to me at least) to build something that's also being
offered by other companies.
Are these other modules true analog delays?

MD

> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:57:09 +0200
> From: Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
> Subject: Re: Re: Request for Advice
> 
> Hi ethan
> 
>> Will Doepfer ever produce a VC Delay?
> As far as I know: No. I know that he does not like to establish a product,
> which is aleady available by an other manufacturer. There is no sense for
> him. 
> 
> And I have to say, that I can use nearly every digital delay from the 90ies
> for this (I have a Korg SDD1200 and a VestaKaza Delay): There is a CV in
> for the delaytime and an insert in the Feedbackloop in which I put a VCA.
> 
> Florian

Doepfer has a whole slew of modules available that other 
manufacturers produce - and just as much as every other maker 
has!  They are in the synth business afterall and because of this 
I would not find it wise for them to omit products from their 
offering because other people are doing it.  I would actually 
recommend they do it because of this, else be touted as a 
novelty module manufacturer as Blacet has been.

This issue recently came up in the Analog Heaven mail list and 
one of its members, who owns the largest modular company in 
the US pointed out that the vanilla modules that everyone else 
makes as well are what keeps him in business while most of 
his his more unique ones sell in very small numbers (some only 
about two per year).

I bet you ONLY reason Doepfer has not produced an analog VC 
delay is the main part needed to do so, the bucket brigade chip, 
is now obsolete and in very short supply worldwide.

If however they were able to do this, I hope to heck it can run fast 
enough so that it could be used as a flanger as well!

best,

Peter Grenader




--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "mdimmm@h..." <mdimmm@h...> 
wrote:
> Maybe they (or us) could come up with some VC parameters 
(speed, direction,
> length, feedback? (I'm making these things up as I go along)) 
that would
> make the module unique from other delay modules currently 
on the market?
> Besides, although some modules from other manufacturers 
might be compatible
> in terms of hardware, it seems that most of us stick to one 
brand, making it
> perfectly acceptable (to me at least) to build something that's 
also being
> offered by other companies.
> Are these other modules true analog delays?
> 
> MD
> 
> 
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:57:09 +0200
> > From: Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Request for Advice
> > 
> > Hi ethan
> > 
> >> Will Doepfer ever produce a VC Delay?
> > As far as I know: No. I know that he does not like to establish 
a product,
> > which is aleady available by an other manufacturer. There is 
no sense for
> > him. 
> > 
> > And I have to say, that I can use nearly every digital delay from 
the 90ies
> > for this (I have a Korg SDD1200 and a VestaKaza Delay): 
There is a CV in
> > for the delaytime and an insert in the Feedbackloop in which I 
put a VCA.
> > 
> > Florian

Hi MD

(Real names appreciated...)

> (speed, direction, length, feedback? 
> (I'm making these things up as I go along)) that would
> make the module unique from other delay modules currently on the market?
I am sorry, but a delay has only one parameter, that is unique to the
delay:

The delay time. Nothing else.


what should be "speed", "direction" or "length"?
There is no such parameter with any delay-technique I know. If you go to
the basic you do not need any cv control at all but a clock-in for the
delay line.

The rest could be done with HighspeedVCO (or a better a VCO plus a Phased
Locked Loop Module) and Mixers.


Florian

So we are there where I always end up: I want a PLL-Module ;-)
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Hi Peter

> I bet you ONLY reason Doepfer has not produced an analog VC
> delay is the main part needed to do so, the bucket brigade chip,
> is now obsolete and in very short supply worldwide.
This is basically true. But a BBD delay would not be the only available
technology.

Florian
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