Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?
2011-06-17 by john m
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2011-06-17 by john m
Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned? The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 & A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it?
2011-06-17 by jakobsweb
I don't know if the A-107 has a 4-pole high pass, the A-106-6 does not (1, 2 and 3-pole). I got an A-123 via ebay auction and having all other Doepfer filters, too, I can say there is no replacement fot it in the Doepfer line-up today - it sounds just great. If A-107 or A-106-6 do the trick for you - go for either or both - they are very good in their own way. If you need 4-pole high pass to feed your A-117 then you have to look at other manufacturers like Division 6 (Filtare SEIII) or Cwejman MMF1. regards J. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "john m" <jmaddocks1975@...> wrote:
> > Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned? > The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 & A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it? >
2011-06-17 by john m
Exactly, same with the A106.6 I've also tried the Asolutions MS20 filter and that can't do it either. Such a shame the A123 has gone without a really good 24db replacement. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "York Luethje" <ybl@...> wrote:
> > The A-107 has a 6dB, a 12 dB and a 18 dB HP as well as several combinations > with notch filter and such. No 24 dB HP though. > > > > _____ > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im > Auftrag von jakobsweb > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juni 2011 07:33 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter? > > > > > > I don't know if the A-107 has a 4-pole high pass, the A-106-6 does not (1, 2 > and 3-pole). > I got an A-123 via ebay auction and having all other Doepfer filters, too, I > can say there is no replacement fot it in the Doepfer line-up today - it > sounds just great. > If A-107 or A-106-6 do the trick for you - go for either or both - they are > very good in their own way. > If you need 4-pole high pass to feed your A-117 then you have to look at > other manufacturers like Division 6 (Filtare SEIII) or Cwejman MMF1. > > regards > J. > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > , "john m" <jmaddocks1975@> wrote: > > > > Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned? > > The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 & > A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it? > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2011-06-17 by jakobsweb
I wrote to Dieter Doepfer re A-123. His answer was that demand for the A-123 was too low so he quit producing them from a business point of view, regretting it himself as he thinks a 24 db high pass is very important, too. Sooooo, Dieter are you listening? :-) I would like to see a new poll on whether this group thinks there should be a filter module with or including (multimode) a 4-pole high pass output (or even 6-pole, too, like Cwejman?). It surely would not be with a CEM3020 chip like A-123 as those are no longer made unfortunately. kind regards from Cologne J. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "john m" <jmaddocks1975@...> wrote:
> > Exactly, same with the A106.6 > I've also tried the Asolutions MS20 filter and that can't do it either. Such a shame the A123 has gone without a really good 24db replacement. > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "York Luethje" <ybl@> wrote: > > > > The A-107 has a 6dB, a 12 dB and a 18 dB HP as well as several combinations > > with notch filter and such. No 24 dB HP though. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im > > Auftrag von jakobsweb > > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juni 2011 07:33 > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if the A-107 has a 4-pole high pass, the A-106-6 does not (1, 2 > > and 3-pole). > > I got an A-123 via ebay auction and having all other Doepfer filters, too, I > > can say there is no replacement fot it in the Doepfer line-up today - it > > sounds just great. > > If A-107 or A-106-6 do the trick for you - go for either or both - they are > > very good in their own way. > > If you need 4-pole high pass to feed your A-117 then you have to look at > > other manufacturers like Division 6 (Filtare SEIII) or Cwejman MMF1. > > > > regards > > J. > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > , "john m" <jmaddocks1975@> wrote: > > > > > > Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned? > > > The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 & > > A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2011-06-17 by Bakis Sirros
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From: john m <jmaddocks1975@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 2:02 PM
Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned?
The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 & A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2011-06-17 by York Luethje
The A-107 has a 6dB, a 12 dB and a 18 dB HP as well as several combinations with notch filter and such. No 24 dB HP though. _____ Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von jakobsweb Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juni 2011 07:33 An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter? I don't know if the A-107 has a 4-pole high pass, the A-106-6 does not (1, 2 and 3-pole). I got an A-123 via ebay auction and having all other Doepfer filters, too, I can say there is no replacement fot it in the Doepfer line-up today - it sounds just great. If A-107 or A-106-6 do the trick for you - go for either or both - they are very good in their own way. If you need 4-pole high pass to feed your A-117 then you have to look at other manufacturers like Division 6 (Filtare SEIII) or Cwejman MMF1. regards J. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "john m" <jmaddocks1975@...> wrote: > > Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned? > The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 & A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-06-18 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> I wrote to Dieter Doepfer re A-123. His answer was that demand > for the A-123 was too low so he quit producing them from a > business point of view, regretting it himself as he thinks a 24 > db high pass is very important, too. > > Sooooo, Dieter are you listening? :-) I would like to see a new > poll on whether this group thinks there should be a filter module > with or including (multimode) a 4-pole high pass output (or even > 6-pole, too, like Cwejman?). > It surely would not be with a CEM3020 chip like A-123 as those > are no longer made unfortunately. > > kind regards from Cologne > J. From my point of view it does not make sense to redesign a product that has been cancelled earlier because of the poor sales. The A-123 was discontinued long ago before the CEM3320 ran short (i.e. the A-123 cancellation had nothing to do with CEM3320 supply problems). The discontinuation of the A-123 was announced about 2 years before the last A-123 module was sold. The announcement of the discontinuation did not change the sales (which were in the range of 2-3 modules per month and it took about 2 years to sell the last 30-35 modules). I ask for your understanding and maybe a new poll will convince me. But I don't think so. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2011-06-20 by selfoscillate
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote: > > > I wrote to Dieter Doepfer re A-123. His answer was that demand > > for the A-123 was too low so he quit producing them from a > > business point of view, regretting it himself as he thinks a 24 > > db high pass is very important, too. > > > > Sooooo, Dieter are you listening? :-) I would like to see a new > > poll on whether this group thinks there should be a filter module > > with or including (multimode) a 4-pole high pass output (or even > > 6-pole, too, like Cwejman?). > > It surely would not be with a CEM3020 chip like A-123 as those > > are no longer made unfortunately. > > > > kind regards from Cologne > > J. > > From my point of view it does not make sense to redesign a product that has > been cancelled earlier because of the poor sales. The A-123 was discontinued > long ago before the CEM3320 ran short (i.e. the A-123 cancellation had > nothing to do with CEM3320 supply problems). The discontinuation of the > A-123 was announced about 2 years before the last A-123 module was sold. The > announcement of the discontinuation did not change the sales (which were in > the range of 2-3 modules per month and it took about 2 years to sell the > last 30-35 modules). > > I ask for your understanding and maybe a new poll will convince me. But I > don't think so. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > i'd like to have a highpass filter which is even steeper than 24db. maybe something like a 36db or even 48db highpass will create more interest? but i don't know, i find virtually every module interesting and i generally love highpass filters ;) best wishes ingo
2011-06-20 by achtung_999
That is a great idea Ingo! I'd be into that too! On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:49 PM, selfoscillate <synaptic_music@yahoo.com>wrote: > ** > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote: > > > > > I wrote to Dieter Doepfer re A-123. His answer was that demand > > > for the A-123 was too low so he quit producing them from a > > > business point of view, regretting it himself as he thinks a 24 > > > db high pass is very important, too. > > > > > > Sooooo, Dieter are you listening? :-) I would like to see a new > > > poll on whether this group thinks there should be a filter module > > > with or including (multimode) a 4-pole high pass output (or even > > > 6-pole, too, like Cwejman?). > > > It surely would not be with a CEM3020 chip like A-123 as those > > > are no longer made unfortunately. > > > > > > kind regards from Cologne > > > J. > > > > From my point of view it does not make sense to redesign a product that > has > > been cancelled earlier because of the poor sales. The A-123 was > discontinued > > long ago before the CEM3320 ran short (i.e. the A-123 cancellation had > > nothing to do with CEM3320 supply problems). The discontinuation of the > > A-123 was announced about 2 years before the last A-123 module was sold. > The > > announcement of the discontinuation did not change the sales (which were > in > > the range of 2-3 modules per month and it took about 2 years to sell the > > last 30-35 modules). > > > > I ask for your understanding and maybe a new poll will convince me. But I > > don't think so. > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > i'd like to have a highpass filter which is even steeper than 24db. > maybe something like a 36db or even 48db highpass will create > more interest? but i don't know, i find virtually every module > interesting and i generally love highpass filters ;) > > best wishes > > ingo > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]