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Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-17 by john m

Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned?
The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 & A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it?

Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-17 by jakobsweb

I don't know if the A-107 has a 4-pole high pass, the A-106-6 does not (1, 2 and 3-pole).
I got an A-123 via ebay auction and having all other Doepfer filters, too, I can say there is no replacement fot it in the Doepfer line-up today - it sounds just great.
If A-107 or A-106-6 do the trick for you - go for either or both - they are very good in their own way.
If you need 4-pole high pass to feed your A-117 then you have to look at other manufacturers like Division 6 (Filtare SEIII) or Cwejman MMF1.

regards
J.


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "john m" <jmaddocks1975@...> wrote:
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> Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned?
> The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 & A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it?
>

Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-17 by john m

Exactly, same with the A106.6
I've also tried the Asolutions MS20 filter and that can't do it either. Such a shame the A123 has gone without a really good 24db replacement.



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "York Luethje" <ybl@...> wrote:
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> The A-107 has a 6dB, a 12 dB and a 18 dB HP as well as several combinations
> with notch filter and such. No 24 dB HP though. 
> 
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> 
>   _____  
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> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
> Auftrag von jakobsweb
> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juni 2011 07:33
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> I don't know if the A-107 has a 4-pole high pass, the A-106-6 does not (1, 2
> and 3-pole).
> I got an A-123 via ebay auction and having all other Doepfer filters, too, I
> can say there is no replacement fot it in the Doepfer line-up today - it
> sounds just great.
> If A-107 or A-106-6 do the trick for you - go for either or both - they are
> very good in their own way.
> If you need 4-pole high pass to feed your A-117 then you have to look at
> other manufacturers like Division 6 (Filtare SEIII) or Cwejman MMF1.
> 
> regards
> J.
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> , "john m" <jmaddocks1975@> wrote:
> >
> > Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned?
> > The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 &
> A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-17 by jakobsweb

I wrote to Dieter Doepfer re A-123. His answer was that demand for the A-123 was too low so he quit producing them from a business point of view, regretting it himself as he thinks a 24 db high pass is very important, too.

Sooooo, Dieter are you listening? :-)  I would like to see a new poll on whether this group thinks there should be a filter module with or including (multimode) a 4-pole high pass output (or even 6-pole, too, like Cwejman?).
It surely would not be with a CEM3020 chip like A-123 as those are no longer made unfortunately.

kind regards from Cologne
J.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "john m" <jmaddocks1975@...> wrote:
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> Exactly, same with the A106.6
> I've also tried the Asolutions MS20 filter and that can't do it either. Such a shame the A123 has gone without a really good 24db replacement.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "York Luethje" <ybl@> wrote:
> >
> > The A-107 has a 6dB, a 12 dB and a 18 dB HP as well as several combinations
> > with notch filter and such. No 24 dB HP though. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
> > Auftrag von jakobsweb
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juni 2011 07:33
> > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > I don't know if the A-107 has a 4-pole high pass, the A-106-6 does not (1, 2
> > and 3-pole).
> > I got an A-123 via ebay auction and having all other Doepfer filters, too, I
> > can say there is no replacement fot it in the Doepfer line-up today - it
> > sounds just great.
> > If A-107 or A-106-6 do the trick for you - go for either or both - they are
> > very good in their own way.
> > If you need 4-pole high pass to feed your A-117 then you have to look at
> > other manufacturers like Division 6 (Filtare SEIII) or Cwejman MMF1.
> > 
> > regards
> > J.
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > , "john m" <jmaddocks1975@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned?
> > > The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 &
> > A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it?
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-17 by Bakis Sirros

A107 or A106-6

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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-17 by York Luethje

The A-107 has a 6dB, a 12 dB and a 18 dB HP as well as several combinations
with notch filter and such. No 24 dB HP though. 

 

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Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von jakobsweb
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juni 2011 07:33
An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

 

  

I don't know if the A-107 has a 4-pole high pass, the A-106-6 does not (1, 2
and 3-pole).
I got an A-123 via ebay auction and having all other Doepfer filters, too, I
can say there is no replacement fot it in the Doepfer line-up today - it
sounds just great.
If A-107 or A-106-6 do the trick for you - go for either or both - they are
very good in their own way.
If you need 4-pole high pass to feed your A-117 then you have to look at
other manufacturers like Division 6 (Filtare SEIII) or Cwejman MMF1.

regards
J.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
, "john m" <jmaddocks1975@...> wrote:
>
> Just noticed its been discountinued, is there a replacement planned?
> The A117 needs a good high pass to create a decent cymbal/hats, the A124 &
A121 simply can't do it. Can any of the other multimode filters manage it?
>





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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-18 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> I wrote to Dieter Doepfer re A-123. His answer was that demand
> for the A-123 was too low so he quit producing them from a
> business point of view, regretting it himself as he thinks a 24
> db high pass is very important, too.
>
> Sooooo, Dieter are you listening? :-)  I would like to see a new
> poll on whether this group thinks there should be a filter module
> with or including (multimode) a 4-pole high pass output (or even
> 6-pole, too, like Cwejman?).
> It surely would not be with a CEM3020 chip like A-123 as those
> are no longer made unfortunately.
>
> kind regards from Cologne
> J.

From my point of view it does not make sense to redesign a product that has
been cancelled earlier because of the poor sales. The A-123 was discontinued
long ago before the CEM3320 ran short (i.e. the A-123 cancellation had
nothing to do with CEM3320 supply problems). The discontinuation of the
A-123 was announced about 2 years before the last A-123 module was sold. The
announcement of the discontinuation did not change the sales (which were in
the range of 2-3 modules per month and it took about 2 years to sell the
last 30-35 modules).

I ask for your understanding and maybe a new poll will convince me. But I
don't think so.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-20 by selfoscillate

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote:
>
> > I wrote to Dieter Doepfer re A-123. His answer was that demand
> > for the A-123 was too low so he quit producing them from a
> > business point of view, regretting it himself as he thinks a 24
> > db high pass is very important, too.
> >
> > Sooooo, Dieter are you listening? :-)  I would like to see a new
> > poll on whether this group thinks there should be a filter module
> > with or including (multimode) a 4-pole high pass output (or even
> > 6-pole, too, like Cwejman?).
> > It surely would not be with a CEM3020 chip like A-123 as those
> > are no longer made unfortunately.
> >
> > kind regards from Cologne
> > J.
> 
> From my point of view it does not make sense to redesign a product that has
> been cancelled earlier because of the poor sales. The A-123 was discontinued
> long ago before the CEM3320 ran short (i.e. the A-123 cancellation had
> nothing to do with CEM3320 supply problems). The discontinuation of the
> A-123 was announced about 2 years before the last A-123 module was sold. The
> announcement of the discontinuation did not change the sales (which were in
> the range of 2-3 modules per month and it took about 2 years to sell the
> last 30-35 modules).
> 
> I ask for your understanding and maybe a new poll will convince me. But I
> don't think so.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>


i'd like to have a highpass filter which is even steeper than 24db.
maybe something like a 36db or even 48db highpass will create
more interest? but i don't know, i find virtually every module
interesting and i generally love highpass filters ;)

best wishes

ingo

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Replacement for A123 High Pass Filter?

2011-06-20 by achtung_999

That is a great idea Ingo! I'd be into that too!




On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:49 PM, selfoscillate <synaptic_music@yahoo.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I wrote to Dieter Doepfer re A-123. His answer was that demand
> > > for the A-123 was too low so he quit producing them from a
> > > business point of view, regretting it himself as he thinks a 24
> > > db high pass is very important, too.
> > >
> > > Sooooo, Dieter are you listening? :-) I would like to see a new
> > > poll on whether this group thinks there should be a filter module
> > > with or including (multimode) a 4-pole high pass output (or even
> > > 6-pole, too, like Cwejman?).
> > > It surely would not be with a CEM3020 chip like A-123 as those
> > > are no longer made unfortunately.
> > >
> > > kind regards from Cologne
> > > J.
> >
> > From my point of view it does not make sense to redesign a product that
> has
> > been cancelled earlier because of the poor sales. The A-123 was
> discontinued
> > long ago before the CEM3320 ran short (i.e. the A-123 cancellation had
> > nothing to do with CEM3320 supply problems). The discontinuation of the
> > A-123 was announced about 2 years before the last A-123 module was sold.
> The
> > announcement of the discontinuation did not change the sales (which were
> in
> > the range of 2-3 modules per month and it took about 2 years to sell the
> > last 30-35 modules).
> >
> > I ask for your understanding and maybe a new poll will convince me. But I
> > don't think so.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
>
> i'd like to have a highpass filter which is even steeper than 24db.
> maybe something like a 36db or even 48db highpass will create
> more interest? but i don't know, i find virtually every module
> interesting and i generally love highpass filters ;)
>
> best wishes
>
> ingo
>
>  
>


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