Doepfer

in one of my earlier postings I asked for the step skipping (on/off)
feature, I still think it
is one of the most important extra features (well in my case it is...)

eric
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "unknown freak" <cgraef@nyc.rr.com>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposed A-154
>
>
> > Well, be it said, step-skipping is a vanilla function compared with some
> > of the more advanced (and wonderful) things, and one that by one means
> > or another it would be important to incorporate into an upgrade of the
> > A-155 of this scale.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ringmod45 [mailto:ringmod45@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:21 PM
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposed A-154
> > >
> > >
> > > i think someone implied that you would be able to that. i think they
> > > misinterpreted some of the facts.
> > >
> > > if you had skip in function, the A154 would interpret the trigger at
> > > the skip in input and send the skip message to the counter to the
> > > selected stage of the A155 and perform the function, i believe.
> > >
> > > ANY ideas ?
> > >
> > > RM
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak <cgraef@n...> wrote:
> > > > I thought someone had said in this discussion that step-skipping
> > > would
> > > > be available for clock signals exceeding a certain threshold.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ringmod45 [mailto:ringmod45@y...]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:42 AM
> > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposed A-154
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi Ethan, i also suscribe to the synth.com group, and in one of
> > > the
> > > > > last posts, someone asked if you could skip notes a la Moog 960.
> > > the
> > > > > answer is obviously No. but, someone did mention that you could
> > > have
> > > > > a skip input jack like the one on the Analogue Systems RS 200.
> > > check
> > > > > the url below .
> > > > >
> > > > http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs200.htm
> > > >
> > > > i think this feature should to be included in the A154. you could
> > > use
> > > > one of the trigger busses to skip notes on the fly. a very
> > > important
> > > > feature. for polyrhythms and real time improvising.
> > > >
> > > > see how little functions go unheard of or even mentioned in
> > > > discussions, that's why more input is smoetimes needed.
> > > >
> > > > would do you guys think of this feature? Mr.Doepfer?
> > > >
> > > > is this feature possible?
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > RM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "ethanzer0" <ethanzer0@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It appears doepfer users are not the only
> > > > > modular users excited about the A-154.
> > > > > Check out the stiring over at the
> > > > > synthesizers.com group:
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/synthesizerscomgroup/
> > > > >
> > > > > Ethan
> > > >
> > > >
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Hi Eric

>  in one of my earlier postings I asked for the step skipping (on/off)
> feature, I still think it
> is one of the most important extra features (well in my case it is...)
What do you mean with step skipping exactly:

1.) The address counter should skip one step, reducing the lenght of the
sequence like: 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 = 7 steps
or

2.) The address counter should give all steps, but on certain steps there
is no gate signal, like:
CV  : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Gate: x x x . x x . x


To my opinion the latter makes sense, but the first proposal is quite
sensless. Instead of you could use a reset function.

For the second proposal I would prefer a additional gate sequencer with
three position switches: 
    up=bound (the gateout is logical YES for the whole step length)
middle=normal (Gate pulse).
  down=no gate for this step


Florian
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florian, thanks for the question

what I would like the most is to just skip a step, if it is 'off' then
immediately
the next step is taken, so the number of actual steps will be reduced
I don't think this option can be made with a reset, because the reset will
always give a restart from step one
and I really think it is a musical usual feature to skip one or more steps
at one moment and switching them
on at a later moment, in order to have your sequence varying constantly, in
this case you will be able to select
some tones of a sequence at a later moment, this is quite different from
skipping steps that are -always- on the
end of the sequence (i.e. by using the reset)....unless I don't know about
the option to use reset for skipping steps in the
way I mean it
if I remember well some 'vintage' sequencers have the possibility to skip
steps and just act like it wasn't there...when you use
this feature it gives the real 'TD-Franke' sequence feel....

the second option is something which is already possible, by just directing
the trigger or gate
of that step to an output that is not connected, at least that is the way I
do it, maybe it can be
made a bit more elegant....? I noticed a posting on this in the past about a
trigger/sequencer: which gives triggers
according to a series of 16 switches (a trigger is given whether on or off),
if you have such a triggersequencer and use
it as a clock for the A154/155 you can elegantly vary the duration of each
step in your sequence....this would be a very
useful feature too...

eric


----- Original Message -----

From: "Florian Anwander" <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:28 AM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-154 Step skipping


> Hi Eric
>
> >  in one of my earlier postings I asked for the step skipping (on/off)
> > feature, I still think it
> > is one of the most important extra features (well in my case it is...)
> What do you mean with step skipping exactly:
>
> 1.) The address counter should skip one step, reducing the lenght of the
> sequence like: 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 = 7 steps
> or
>
> 2.) The address counter should give all steps, but on certain steps there
> is no gate signal, like:
> CV  : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
> Gate: x x x . x x . x
>
>
> To my opinion the latter makes sense, but the first proposal is quite
> sensless. Instead of you could use a reset function.
>
> For the second proposal I would prefer a additional gate sequencer with
> three position switches:
>     up=bound (the gateout is logical YES for the whole step length)
> middle=normal (Gate pulse).
>   down=no gate for this step
>
>
> Florian
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Hi Eric

> this feature it gives the real 'TD-Franke' sequence feel....
This is maybe my problem: I hate TD... ;-)

I prefer 8step Sequences but would like to have sequences with notes over
two steps or two steps with two different notes played legato (without new
attackphase of the envelope).
I also would really appreciate a clockmodule which allows swing-factors on
a normal clock-in. Or a masterclock, which creates different clocks with
different swing factors. But that is another story.

> I noticed a posting on this in the past about a trigger/sequencer: 
> which gives triggers according to a series of 16 switches (a trigger 
> is given whether on or off),
This was my posting regarding a modular sequencer system. :-)

Florian

The one and only skipper is
CV: 1 2 x 4 5 x 7 8, that means 6 steps => 1 2 4 5 7 8
This is an old feature of the ARP and Moog Sequencers or
by the newer Analogue Systems RS 200
all the best
Axel

Am 13.11.02 09:28:45, schrieb Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>:

>Hi Eric
>
>>  in one of my earlier postings I asked for the step skipping (on/off)
>> feature, I still think it
>> is one of the most important extra features (well in my case it is...)
>What do you mean with step skipping exactly:
>
>1.) The address counter should skip one step, reducing the lenght of the
>sequence like: 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 = 7 steps
>or
>
>2.) The address counter should give all steps, but on certain steps there
>is no gate signal, like:
>CV  : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
>Gate: x x x . x x . x
>
>
>To my opinion the latter makes sense, but the first proposal is quite
>sensless. Instead of you could use a reset function.
>
>For the second proposal I would prefer a additional gate sequencer with
>three position switches: 
>    up=bound (the gateout is logical YES for the whole step length)
>middle=normal (Gate pulse).
>  down=no gate for this step
>
>
>Florian
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