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2015-12-13 by jaccoville@yahoo.com
Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge? I would very like the 10 band resonant eq. Any chance of production? Cheers Jacco
2015-12-14 by achtung_999
Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge?
I would very like the 10 band resonant eq.
Any chance of production?
Cheers
Jacco
2015-12-14 by achtung_999
Learn to solder: https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/serge-res-eq-ii/On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge?
I would very like the 10 band resonant eq.
Any chance of production?
Cheers
Jacco
2015-12-14 by Neil Kagan
I think Jacco was specifically asking about the A-100 series. I have a Doepfer only system as I prefer the look of it, so I totally understand wanting other series modules in Doepfer format. Also, some of us don't want to 'learn to solder'.... Neil Sent from my iPhone
> On 14 Dec 2015, at 00:07, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Btw. There is loads of Serge for Eurorack at http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en-us/d58_ES_-_Euro_Serge.html > Besides the Thonk link in the last mail there is more DIY stuff for sale at https://synthcube.com/cart/ > > > > >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:04 AM, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com> wrote: >> Learn to solder: https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/serge-res-eq-ii/ >> >>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge? >>> I would very like the 10 band resonant eq. >>> Any chance of production? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Jacco >>> > >
2015-12-14 by Jacco Ville
Hi Neil, These are exactly my thoughts. Don't like the look of DIY into my Doepfer system. Cheers Jacco Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone 5 Black OPS Edition
> Op 14 dec. 2015 om 07:32 heeft Neil Kagan blinkenlicht@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven: > > I think Jacco was specifically asking about the A-100 series. I have a Doepfer only system as I prefer the look of it, so I totally understand wanting other series modules in Doepfer format. > > Also, some of us don't want to 'learn to solder'.... > > Neil > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Dec 2015, at 00:07, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Btw. There is loads of Serge for Eurorack at http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en-us/d58_ES_-_Euro_Serge.html >> Besides the Thonk link in the last mail there is more DIY stuff for sale at https://synthcube.com/cart/ >> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:04 AM, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Learn to solder: https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/serge-res-eq-ii/ >>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge? >>>> I would very like the 10 band resonant eq. >>>> Any chance of production? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Jacco >>>> > >
2015-12-14 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge? > I would very like the 10 band resonant eq. > Any chance of production? > > Cheers > > Jacco It's a bit difficult for us to make such a decision. First of all we have to find out if the are sufficient inquiries for new Serge module copies and which ones would make sense. Second we have to ask Serge for his permission (as for the A-171-2) and to discuss the royalty fees. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2015-12-14 by Florian Anwander
Hello Jacco Am 13.12.2015 um 19:27 schrieb jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]: > Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge? > I would very like the 10 band resonant eq. > Any chance of production? > Stupid question: You mean this one: http://www.spheremusic.com/Bargaindtl.asp?Item=13397 ? Who is producting this? Florian
2015-12-14 by Jacco Ville
Hello there Florian, That's the one. I would love to have this made by Doepfer, no sliders please. I have the mainboard pcb but don't want to build it because I want a clean A100 system. Cheers Jacco Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone 5 Black OPS Edition
> Op 14 dec. 2015 om 11:44 heeft Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Hello Jacco > > Am 13.12.2015 um 19:27 schrieb jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]: > > Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge? > > I would very like the 10 band resonant eq. > > Any chance of production? > > > Stupid question: You mean this one: > http://www.spheremusic.com/Bargaindtl.asp?Item=13397 > ? > > Who is producting this? > > Florian >
2015-12-14 by Florian Anwander
Aaah! That one is not by Serge, but by Thonk. Now I understand. btw: I doubt there will be a big market for it, especially since the (incredible) "Rings" by Mutable Instruments is in the market. I know it is very different from the Serge, but it will draw a lot of potential buyers away from an analog resonator. Florian Am 14.12.2015 um 14:26 schrieb Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]:
> > > That's the one.
2015-12-14 by Jacco Ville
Not me ;-) No analog modelling in my rack. Cheers Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone 5 Black OPS Edition
> Op 14 dec. 2015 om 14:33 heeft Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Aaah! That one is not by Serge, but by Thonk. Now I understand. > > btw: I doubt there will be a big market for it, especially since the > (incredible) "Rings" by Mutable Instruments is in the market. I know it > is very different from the Serge, but it will draw a lot of potential > buyers away from an analog resonator. > > Florian > > Am 14.12.2015 um 14:26 schrieb Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com > [Doepfer_a100]: > > > > > > That's the one. > >
2015-12-14 by achtung_999
Not me ;-)No analog modelling in my rack.Cheers
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone 5 Black OPS Edition
Op 14 dec. 2015 om 14:33 heeft Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:Aaah! That one is not by Serge, but by Thonk. Now I understand.
btw: I doubt there will be a big market for it, especially since the
(incredible) "Rings" by Mutable Instruments is in the market. I know it
is very different from the Serge, but it will draw a lot of potential
buyers away from an analog resonator.
Florian
Am 14.12.2015 um 14:26 schrieb Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com
[Doepfer_a100]:
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> That's the one.
2015-12-14 by achtung_999
Not me ;-)No analog modelling in my rack.Cheers
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone 5 Black OPS Edition
Op 14 dec. 2015 om 14:33 heeft Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:Aaah! That one is not by Serge, but by Thonk. Now I understand.
btw: I doubt there will be a big market for it, especially since the
(incredible) "Rings" by Mutable Instruments is in the market. I know it
is very different from the Serge, but it will draw a lot of potential
buyers away from an analog resonator.
Florian
Am 14.12.2015 um 14:26 schrieb Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com
[Doepfer_a100]:
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> That's the one.
2015-12-14 by Scott Rogers
Yeah, I’m finding it a bit strange too. I do understand though. I thought it looked pretty cool being all silver and shiny too. But when I decided I needed to have some other modules, well, the hell with it! I just got a nice Aion 904a filter. It’s black so it doesn’t fit in at all but wow does it sound fantastic! I have a bunch that look different now and it doesn’t bother me at all. The sound is all that matters. Scott From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 8:49 AM To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Serge modules for future The purism exhibited in this thread makes me chuckle Neil and Jacco. But hey, it's your loss :D Why would Doepfer release a whole series of Serge when Elby is just about to do this? That would not be a very smart business move in my eyes.. In case you missed it: Elby also sells ready build modules. So no soldering needed. I own 2 of his analog shift registers and they work very nicely. And to be honest they really don't look out of place in a system that's mostly made up of Doepfer modules. On careful inspection of link to Elby Designs you would have also noticed they will produce the resonant eq in 2 versions: one with faders and one with pots, just saying. I am not in any way affiliated with any of the companies I linked and mentioned. I am just a bit surprised at the stubborn purism. Part of what has made Eurorack so popular was that Doepfer made it an open format with standard components, a great way for other companies to join the fun. But then again it's your systems... Have fun & all the best, Ernst On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Not me ;-) No analog modelling in my rack. Cheers Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone 5 Black OPS Edition Op 14 dec. 2015 om 14:33 heeft Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven: Aaah! That one is not by Serge, but by Thonk. Now I understand. btw: I doubt there will be a big market for it, especially since the (incredible) "Rings" by Mutable Instruments is in the market. I know it is very different from the Serge, but it will draw a lot of potential buyers away from an analog resonator. Florian Am 14.12.2015 um 14:26 schrieb Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]:
> > > That's the one.
2015-12-14 by Neil Kagan
I'm sorry I happen to prefer the visual design of a system from one manufacturer. I think that mixed systems look awful, regardless if f how cool they might be. Sent from my iPhone
> On 14 Dec 2015, at 13:49, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > The purism exhibited in this thread makes me chuckle Neil and Jacco. But hey, it's your loss :D > > Why would Doepfer release a whole series of Serge when Elby is just about to do this? > That would not be a very smart business move in my eyes.. > In case you missed it: Elby also sells ready build modules. So no soldering needed. > I own 2 of his analog shift registers and they work very nicely. And to be honest they really don't look out of place in a system that's mostly made up of Doepfer modules. > > On careful inspection of link to Elby Designs you would have also noticed they will produce the resonant eq in 2 versions: one with faders and one with pots, just saying. > I am not in any way affiliated with any of the companies I linked and mentioned. > I am just a bit surprised at the stubborn purism. Part of what has made Eurorack so popular was that Doepfer made it an open format with standard components, a great way for other companies to join the fun. > But then again it's your systems... > > Have fun & all the best, > > Ernst > >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Not me ;-) >> No analog modelling in my rack. >> >> Cheers >> >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone 5 Black OPS Edition >> >>> Op 14 dec. 2015 om 14:33 heeft Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> >>> Aaah! That one is not by Serge, but by Thonk. Now I understand. >>> >>> btw: I doubt there will be a big market for it, especially since the >>> (incredible) "Rings" by Mutable Instruments is in the market. I know it >>> is very different from the Serge, but it will draw a lot of potential >>> buyers away from an analog resonator. >>> >>> Florian >>> >>> Am 14.12.2015 um 14:26 schrieb Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com >>> [Doepfer_a100]: >>> > >>> > >>> > That's the one. >>> > >
2015-12-14 by Elby Designs - Laurie Biddulph
Go to Elby-designs.com!
2015-12-14 by Elby Designs - Laurie Biddulph
We do assembled modules as well!
2015-12-14 by Neil Kagan
Perhaps something inspired by the resonant eq but voltage controlled? I love the Buchla spectral processor, which can be used like a fixed filter bank but also a vc filter. Neil Sent from my iPhone
On 14 Dec 2015, at 10:22, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> Since the name Serge is "connected" to the A100 system will there be more future modules in the spirit of Serge? >> I would very like the 10 band resonant eq. >> Any chance of production? >> >> Cheers >> >> Jacco > > It's a bit difficult for us to make such a decision. First of all we have to find out if the are sufficient inquiries for new Serge > module copies and which ones would make sense. Second we have to ask Serge for his permission (as for the A-171-2) and to discuss > the royalty fees. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > >
2015-12-14 by isoldeisobelle@gmail.com
2015-12-14 by Zoë Blade
I'm glad I'm not the only one who prefers to keep her non-Doepfer modules "quarantined" in a separate rack. :D I love some of them, but really dig the single-manufacturer aesthetic, and Doepfer's modules are a lot better built than some others I have. On 14 Dec 2015, at 17:51, isoldeisobelle@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > the number of modules available within the Doepfer range is unparalleled within the format Well now I'm curious, are they paralleled outside of the format at all? With software, maybe, but I'd be surprised if there's any hardware manufacturer who comes close, past or present. That's one of the main reasons I got into Doepfer in the first place. Whose other system lets me mix and match a spring reverb, BBDs, all those filters, a ribbon controller and so on? :D
2015-12-14 by christian ienni
i have multiple A100 systems, so some are "pure Doepfer-silver" and others (the monster base & "Chaos Box") are very "Frankensteined" ("It's pronounced: 'Fronk-en-steened'!" ^_^ ). but then my entire living room looks like the inside of the TARDIS, a strange mashup of architectures, decors, eras, and technologies, so "purism" isn't even a possibility in my particular bubble of timey-wimey. and as someone else mentioned, at the end of the day it's what it SOUNDS like that's the only *really* important thing.
but, to paraphrase The Dude: "...that's just, y'know, like, uh, my opinion, man..."
;-)
From: "Zoë Blade zoe@bytenoise.co.uk [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Serge modules for future
I'm glad I'm not the only one who prefers to keep her non-Doepfer modules "quarantined" in a separate rack. :D I love some of them, but really dig the single-manufacturer aesthetic, and Doepfer's modules are a lot better built than some others I have.2015-12-14 by isoldeisobelle@gmail.com
2015-12-14 by David Kellett
Eliane Radigue is such an inspiration to me!! The very deep slowness of her work is something I aspire to. My constraints of time in my studio tend to interfere with that goal. But I'm slowly working in a 2 hour piece of sine wave music. Only sine waves, very carefully tuned at harmonic (whole number ratio) intervals with some carefully miss-tuned beating frequencies that create subtly shifting standing waves and shimmers in the room. And - most of my modules are Doepfer because Doepfer make so many amazingly useful things but I have them interspersed with other amazingly useful things that do stuff I can't quite do with the Doepfer gear. David www.movingisliving.co.uk Sent from my iPhone
> On 14 Dec 2015, at 19:06, isoldeisobelle@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > There is a lot to be said and commended for when going with one manufacturer. > Learning the vagaries and quirks and sweet spots inherent within the overall design can really teach you a lot... and you just get a feel for where things should be when creating sound. > > I read a recent article concerning an elder statesperson of modular; the inestimable Éliane Radigue. I will quote part of that article here because I think that it makes a valid point concerning ''bonding'' with a chosen system - > > ''After some trial and error on other synthesizers like the EML ElectroComp or the Moog, she eventually settled on the ARP 2500. “When I used to work with the Buchla and I turned the knobs, sometimes to a hair’s breadth, it was very tricky. If I made the slightest false move, disconnecting one ever so marginally, everything would evaporate. On the other hand, the ARP offered me an immediate reading, since the oscillators going into a particular module or output were all in front of me. Except that the switches had one flaw: they hissed. But, for me, that is precisely what procured this richness and subtlety of sound. The Moog and Buchla are wonderful instruments, but conversely, their sonority is very clear and metallic.” '' > > The whole article can be read here - > Éliane Radigue: The Mysterious Power Of The Infinitesimal | Red Bull Music Academy Daily > > > Éliane Radigue: The Mysterious Power Of The In... > An in-depth look at the music of the early electroacoustic composer. > View on daily.redbullmusica... > Preview by Yahoo > > >
2015-12-14 by isoldeisobelle@gmail.com
... although for the most part, the live performances involving instrumentation did work in their settings, the event involving pre-recorded pieces played within the church were extremely flat and lifeless and, unfortunately, were widely reviewed as such at that time.
It is a regret of mine that I was never able to attend any of the installations of Maryanne Amacher, there are a few of her own pieces available on CD, but, again, you will find the reviews for them rather disparaging because her work, like Éliane's, often heavily relied on the place it was intended to be performed within.
It is always interesting and encouraging to hear of artists who wish to further this form and I wish you well in your own endeavours. :)
2015-12-15 by David Kellett
Well........ yes and no..... this kind of thing works differently in different environments but it still works. I suppose a very small room wouldn't work but other than that there will still be standing waves and subtle shifts. The idea is a quite large room with the audience (if I had one!!!!!!) able to move around the space and hear the different parts of the room. And a small audience is best as their bodies deaden the sound. David www.movingisliving.co.uk Sent from my iPhone
> On 14 Dec 2015, at 21:53, isoldeisobelle@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > David - as you understand, the type of compositions that you are working towards always rely on the space that they are intended to be played out in to... the natural reverberant and resonant qualities are site specific to the piece and integral to it. > > A few years back I attended this: > Triptych: The Music of Eliane Radigue | Sound and Music > > > Triptych: The Music of Eliane Radigue | Sound and Music > Sound and Music presents the first major UK retrospective of the work of Eliane Radigue, one of the most celebrated and influential of living composers. > View on soundandmusic.org > Preview by Yahoo > > > ... although for the most part, the live performances involving instrumentation did work in their settings, the event involving pre-recorded pieces played within the church were extremely flat and lifeless and, unfortunately, were widely reviewed as such at that time. > > > > It is a regret of mine that I was never able to attend any of the installations of Maryanne Amacher, there are a few of her own pieces available on CD, but, again, you will find the reviews for them rather disparaging because her work, like Éliane's, often heavily relied on the place it was intended to be performed within. > > > > It is always interesting and encouraging to hear of artists who wish to further this form and I wish you well in your own endeavours. :) > > > >
2015-12-16 by Nicholas Keller
Well........ yes and no..... this kind of thing works differently in different environments but it still works. I suppose a very small room wouldn't work but other than that there will still be standing waves and subtle shifts. The idea is a quite large room with the audience (if I had one!!!!!!) able to move around the space and hear the different parts of the room. And a small audience is best as their bodies deaden the sound.
On 14 Dec 2015, at 21:53, isoldeisobelle@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:David - as you understand, the type of compositions that you are working towards always rely on the space that they are intended to be played out in to... the natural reverberant and resonant qualities are site specific to the piece and integral to it.
A few years back I attended this:
Triptych: The Music of Eliane Radigue | Sound and MusicTriptych: The Music of Eliane Radigue | Sound and MusicSound and Music presents the first major UK retrospective of the work of Eliane Radigue, one of the most celebrated and influential of living composers.Preview by Yahoo
... although for the most part, the live performances involving instrumentation did work in their settings, the event involving pre-recorded pieces played within the church were extremely flat and lifeless and, unfortunately, were widely reviewed as such at that time.
It is a regret of mine that I was never able to attend any of the installations of Maryanne Amacher, there are a few of her own pieces available on CD, but, again, you will find the reviews for them rather disparaging because her work, like Éliane's, often heavily relied on the place it was intended to be performed within.
It is always interesting and encouraging to hear of artists who wish to further this form and I wish you well in your own endeavours. :)