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2017-08-17 by Neil Kagan
Hi to you all, I'm not interested in the Mac v PC debate, just a long term Mac user frustrated by the lack of support for Doepfer gear. The A-157 updated is PC only, and this was only released as a product fairly recently. Notation have made use of web based updaters / editors; could this be possible? Neil Sent from my iPhone
2017-08-17 by John Hollis
Hi Neil, Yes, it’s a shame there is no Mac support. I had to write my own software to program my A-192 but cannot update my early A-157. I don’t have time to reverse engineer the PC updater. If we could get the USB protocol and the new firmware binary I could write a Mac updater for it. John
> On 17 Aug 2017, at 09:28, Neil Kagan nkagan@mac.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi to you all, > > I'm not interested in the Mac v PC debate, just a long term Mac user frustrated by the lack of support for Doepfer gear. The A-157 updated is PC only, and this was only released as a product fairly recently. Notation have made use of web based updaters / editors; could this be possible? > > Neil > > Sent from my iPhone > >
2017-08-17 by Neil Kagan
That would be amazing John, Dieter would this be possible? Neil Sent from my iPhone
> On 17 Aug 2017, at 10:10, John Hollis john@hollis.co.uk [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > Yes, it’s a shame there is no Mac support. I had to write my own software to program my A-192 but cannot update my early A-157. > > I don’t have time to reverse engineer the PC updater. If we could get the USB protocol and the new firmware binary I could write a Mac updater for it. > > John > > > On 17 Aug 2017, at 09:28, Neil Kagan nkagan@mac.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Hi to you all, > > > > I'm not interested in the Mac v PC debate, just a long term Mac user frustrated by the lack of support for Doepfer gear. The A-157 updated is PC only, and this was only released as a product fairly recently. Notation have made use of web based updaters / editors; could this be possible? > > > > Neil > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >
2017-08-17 by yahoo@doepfer.de
We are still a very small company and there are only 2 persons responsible for the hardware and software/firmware design (Christian Assall for the software/firmware and me for the hardware). As we are both not familiar with Mac programming we are not able to offer the Mac support without external manpower. Christian tried already to find a reliable external partner for Mac support but as far as I know he was not successful so far. I'll see if there is something we can do to solve this problem. If there is a member in the group that could help us please contact Christian directly (software@doepfer.de). Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> Hi Neil, > > Yes, it’s a shame there is no Mac support. I had to write my own > software to program my A-192 but cannot update my early A-157. > > I don’t have time to reverse engineer the PC updater. If we could > get the USB protocol and the new firmware binary I could write a > Mac updater for it. > > John > > > On 17 Aug 2017, at 09:28, Neil Kagan nkagan@mac.com > [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Hi to you all, > > > > I'm not interested in the Mac v PC debate, just a long term Mac > user frustrated by the lack of support for Doepfer gear. The > A-157 updated is PC only, and this was only released as a product > fairly recently. Notation have made use of web based updaters / > editors; could this be possible? > > > > Neil
2017-08-17 by Neil Kagan
Thanks Dieter, I wish I knew how to write software myself! Neil Sent from my iPhone
> On 17 Aug 2017, at 11:55, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > We are still a very small company and there are only 2 persons responsible > for the hardware and software/firmware design (Christian Assall for the > software/firmware and me for the hardware). As we are both not familiar with > Mac programming we are not able to offer the Mac support without external > manpower. Christian tried already to find a reliable external partner for > Mac support but as far as I know he was not successful so far. I'll see if > there is something we can do to solve this problem. If there is a member in > the group that could help us please contact Christian directly > (software@doepfer.de). > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > >> Hi Neil, >> >> Yes, it’s a shame there is no Mac support. I had to write my own >> software to program my A-192 but cannot update my early A-157. >> >> I don’t have time to reverse engineer the PC updater. If we could >> get the USB protocol and the new firmware binary I could write a >> Mac updater for it. >> >> John >> >>> On 17 Aug 2017, at 09:28, Neil Kagan nkagan@mac.com >> [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi to you all, >>> >>> I'm not interested in the Mac v PC debate, just a long term Mac >> user frustrated by the lack of support for Doepfer gear. The >> A-157 updated is PC only, and this was only released as a product >> fairly recently. Notation have made use of web based updaters / >> editors; could this be possible? >>> >>> Neil > > > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > >
2017-08-18 by mark@umcorps.com
My workaround is to use Virtual Box. MS have various free images of their operating systems that will load directly in VB available on their developers site. These will work for up to one month at a time. When they time out you can simply reinstall the image and begin again. Get the most recent version of Virtual Box here (http://virtualbox.org http://virtualbox.org/) If you want USB support you need to install the add-on pack as well. Get a free Virtual Box image of Windows from the MS developers site here. (https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/#downloads I used this with an image of Windows XP to run the editor for the A 192-1 (with the editor being quite long in the tooth I wasn't confident it would run well on more recent versions of Windows and I don't have the knowledge to troubleshoot legacy issues with Microsoft OSs). Once you've got the Windows Virtual Machine running you can get Virtual Box to connect to any folder on your Mac. It shows up in Windows as a virtual drive. I use the Desktop folder for this which means that you can easily swap files between the Mac desktop and the Windows setup.
2017-08-18 by Neil Kagan
Thanks for this Mark, but I'm not going to do that. I don't want to be doing that each time I get an update. Neil Sent from my iPad
> On 18 Aug 2017, at 07:17, mark@umcorps.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > My workaround is to use Virtual Box. MS have various free images of their operating systems that will load directly in VB available on their developers site. These will work for up to one month at a time. When they time out you can simply reinstall the image and begin again. > > Get the most recent version of Virtual Box here (http://virtualbox.org http://virtualbox.org/) If you want USB support you need to install the add-on pack as well. > > Get a free Virtual Box image of Windows from the MS developers site here. (https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/#downloads > > I used this with an image of Windows XP to run the editor for the A 192-1 (with the editor being quite long in the tooth I wasn't confident it would run well on more recent versions of Windows and I don't have the knowledge to troubleshoot legacy issues with Microsoft OSs). > > Once you've got the Windows Virtual Machine running you can get Virtual Box to connect to any folder on your Mac. It shows up in Windows as a virtual drive. I use the Desktop folder for this which means that you can easily swap files between the Mac desktop and the Windows setup. >
2017-08-18 by Martin Fay
Hi Dieter, Software has a problem with platform obsolescence, which is particularly acute for Macs. I doubt it is financially viable for you to support software with upgrades to run on current OS releases in the long term, which has a knock-on effect on the use of your hardware. My suggestion to help the community overcome this is to publish a specification of the communications between hardware and software, so it is practical to create 3rd party utilities. To minimise the work this could be achieved by open sourcing the code of your existing utility. (FWIW I have reverse engineered quite a bit of some sampler file formats, to help with present day use of the machines) Martin Sent from my iPhone
> On 17 Aug 2017, at 11:55, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > We are still a very small company and there are only 2 persons responsible > for the hardware and software/firmware design (Christian Assall for the > software/firmware and me for the hardware). As we are both not familiar with > Mac programming we are not able to offer the Mac support without external > manpower. Christian tried already to find a reliable external partner for > Mac support but as far as I know he was not successful so far. I'll see if > there is something we can do to solve this problem. If there is a member in > the group that could help us please contact Christian directly > (software@doepfer.de). > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > >> Hi Neil, >> >> Yes, it’s a shame there is no Mac support. I had to write my own >> software to program my A-192 but cannot update my early A-157. >> >> I don’t have time to reverse engineer the PC updater. If we could >> get the USB protocol and the new firmware binary I could write a >> Mac updater for it. >> >> John >> >>> On 17 Aug 2017, at 09:28, Neil Kagan nkagan@mac.com >> [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi to you all, >>> >>> I'm not interested in the Mac v PC debate, just a long term Mac >> user frustrated by the lack of support for Doepfer gear. The >> A-157 updated is PC only, and this was only released as a product >> fairly recently. Notation have made use of web based updaters / >> editors; could this be possible? >>> >>> Neil > > > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > >